Author Topic: Dorian's Sickest Conditioning. (Read 15554 times)

suckmymuscle · « **on:** April 28, 2011, 07:26:44 AM »

I hate to dwell on the subject "Dorian Yates" because it has been done before so many times and I made a promise to myself that I would never again get into protracted discussions involving him, but I just had to post this. In fact, I think it has been posted before.

Here is Yates at his absolute sickest conditioning. This, my friends, is how you look when you have not only no fat and water under your skin at all, but none between your muscle fibers also. This is the "pinnacle" of conditioning possible for Human Beings. Branch Warren, who is reputed for his conditioning, could only step onstage with this conditioning at 240 lbs at the most. Dorian in this video is 255 lbs, and yet he is carrying more lean muscle tissue than Jay Cutler at 275 lbs. Cutler only has this amount of lean muscle tissue when he's 305 lbs off-season, and it's too bad he loses about 10 lbs of muscle to go with the 20 lbs of fat.

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Bodybuilder Lex Reeves · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:28:41 AM »

Looks like death warmed over. Another druggie.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:30:57 AM »

Look at his back at 1:14. This is so fucking sick. Lol...

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makaveli25 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:32:42 AM »

Damn he looks about a million times better than Cutler.

JP_RC · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:37:55 AM »

The one-armed ~~wonder~~ mess.

wild willie · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:38:49 AM »

Doz is wicked looking here.....Especially the traps and back and calves!

affeman · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:39:46 AM »

Damn, if that guy would've had arms he would've been unstoppable.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:44:50 AM »

Quote from: affeman on April 28, 2011, 07:39:46 AM

Damn, if that guy would've had arms he would've been unstoppable.

His arms tapered in at 20.5" at their biggest. Not incredible for a Mr.Olympia but not bad either. As for his torn left biceps, it only really affected him in the front double biceps pose. The biceps are small muscles and they are hidden for the most part in most poses.

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local hero · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:46:05 AM »

didnt gh15 reacon they were 18 1/2 " or somthing stupid like that.....

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:48:08 AM »

Quote from: local hero on April 28, 2011, 07:46:05 AM

didnt gh15 reacon they were 18 1/2 " or somthing stupid like that.....

Bev Francis measured them at 20.5" in her gym in New York days before the 1994 Olympia.

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Shockwave · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:48:58 AM »

Dorian looked fucking incredible.
Regardless of what the haters say, his torn bi really only shows up in the FDB. Other than that, arms are slighlty undersized, yes, but not nearly so much as people try to make out.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:49:23 AM »

He's actually close to death here....weird idea.

local hero · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:50:51 AM »

u cant watch that vid and not be impressed....

affeman · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:51:31 AM »

Quote from: dutchguy on April 28, 2011, 07:49:23 AM

He's actually close to death here....weird idea.

How Dorian survived those humungous amounts of drugs he was taking is beyond me.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2011, 07:56:30 AM »

I particularly like when he does the archer's pose at 1:30. You can see the incredible thickness of his upper back and traps and it looks like a fucking marble statue because he is so dry that you can almost see the individual muscle fibers in the muscles. This is just sick.

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suckmymuscle · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:05:07 AM »

Quote from: affeman on April 28, 2011, 07:51:31 AM

How Dorian survived those humungous amounts of drugs he was taking is beyond me.

How do all the other guys survive? Why do you assume that, just because a guy is Mr.Olympia, he is taking more drugs than his competitors? Going by your logic, then Tom Prince should never have had any health problems due to steroids, since he was far less successful than Mr.Olympia and thus the doses he took were much lower than Dorian's and since the latter didn't have any health problems, then the former shouldn't either(according to your logic). Dorian took as much as the other guys, and the reason why he looks so much better is because of his particular genetics for losing fat and water between muscle fibers, his year-long training with heavy compound movements using barbell and dumbbells to failure whilst his competitors used mostly machine movements stopping way before failure and his extreme dedication to his diet. All pro bodybuilders take the same amount of drugs: between 2,500-10,000 mg per week(all drugs combined). This is the amount Dorian took. He didn't take more or less than his competitors.

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Shockwave · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:06:35 AM »

Best FLS of all time, best RLS of all time, top 2 RDB of all time, top 5 side tri, top 10 ab thigh of all time (IMHO)
People might tear Dorian apart saying "so and so has better arms, better delts, etc", but when you actually look at the pose as a WHOLE he looks fkn incredible.
Poses are judged as a whole, they dont score individual bodyparts, and IMHO anti-Dorian people do just that when trying to justify why they think he was given gifts.

affeman · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:11:59 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on April 28, 2011, 08:05:07 AM

How do all the other guys survive? Why do you assume that, just because a guy is Mr.Olympia, he is taking more drugs than his competitors? Going by your logic, then Tom Prince should never have had any health problems due to steroids, since he was far less successful than Mr.Olympia and thus the doses he took were much lower than Dorian's and since the latter didn't have any health problems, then the former shouldn't either(according to your logic). Dorian took as much as the other guys, and the reason why he looks so much better is because of his particular genetics for losing fat and water between muscle fibers, his year-long training with heavy compound movements using barbell and dumbbells to failure whilst his competitors used mostly machine movements stopping way before failure and his extreme dedication to his diet. All pro bodybuilders take the same amount of drugs: between 2,500-10,000 mg per week(all drugs combined). This is the amount Dorian took. He didn't take more or less than his competitors.

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Everyone in the industry knows that Dorian took the drug abuse to a whole new level.

Shockwave · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:13:15 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on April 28, 2011, 08:05:07 AM

How do all the other guys survive? Why do you assume that, just because a guy is Mr.Olympia, he is taking more drugs than his competitors? Going by your logic, then Tom Prince should never have had any health problems due to steroids, since he was far less successful than Mr.Olympia and thus the doses he took were much lower than Dorian's and since the latter didn't have any health problems, then the former shouldn't either(according to your logic). Dorian took as much as the other guys, and the reason why he looks so much better is because of his particular genetics for losing fat and water between muscle fibers, his year-long training with heavy compound movements using barbell and dumbbells to failure whilst his competitors used mostly machine movements stopping way before failure and his extreme dedication to his diet. All pro bodybuilders take the same amount of drugs: between 2,500-10,000 mg per week(all drugs combined). This is the amount Dorian took. He didn't take more or less than his competitors.

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Lol.
Thats a pretty big range there. lol.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:23:21 AM »

Quote from: affeman on April 28, 2011, 08:11:59 AM

Everyone in the industry knows that Dorian took the drug abuse to a whole new level.

Maybe in 1993 when he was the first man of average height to step onstage ripped at close to 260 lbs, but this is 1996. All the guys had blowed up to Dorian's size and beyond - Jean-Pierre Fux was 280 lbs at 5'10 - so I doubt the reason Dorian looked so great is because of more/greater drugs. Also, Dorian said he could have come at that size years before, but didn't because he was overdieting. He said that the main reason why he gained 15 lean pounds between 1992 and 1993 - he was 242 lbs for the 1992 Olympia and 257 lbs for the 1993 Olympia - is because he didn't overdiet in 1993. He actually said that people assume he made some great drug breakthrough that allowed him to gain all that mass, but he said it was simply a matter of diet.

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MB · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:27:49 AM »

Quote from: affeman on April 28, 2011, 08:11:59 AM

Everyone in the industry knows that Dorian took the drug abuse to a whole new level.

Why has no one been able to top Yates in nearly 20 years? Has drug use gone down since Dorian competed?

io856 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:27:59 AM »

muscularny · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:33:53 AM »

by todays standards hes 4 weeks out

JP_RC · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:35:35 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on April 28, 2011, 08:06:35 AM

Best FLS of all time, best RLS of all time, top 2 RDB of all time, top 5 side tri, top 10 ab thigh of all time (IMHO)
People might tear Dorian apart saying "so and so has better arms, better delts, etc", but when you actually look at the pose as a WHOLE he looks fkn incredible.
Poses are judged as a whole, they dont score individual bodyparts, and IMHO anti-Dorian people do just that when trying to justify why they think he was given gifts.

ok, ok we get it you like Dorian.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2011, 08:37:13 AM »

WOW - looks like a mix of Ken Shamrock, Freddy Krueger, Earth Titan and anatomy chart.
His posing is ace... power- and somewhat graceful.

Very good structure also.

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