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Nine Americans Methodically Killed By Afghan Pilot at Kabul Airport
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Share25 CommentsPrintText Size- / +By MARTHA RADDATZ (@martharaddatz) , LUIS MARTINEZ and BEN FORER
April 27, 2011
http://abcnews.go.com/International/afghan-pilot-disarmed-killed-americans-argument/story?id=13468438





An Afghan Air Corps pilot, angered by an argument with nine American trainers at Kabul airport, pulled a gun on the Americans, disarmed them and methodically killed them, officials said today.

The shooter then apparently shot and killed himself.

The Afghan military said the gunman was a 20 year veteran of the Afghan Air Corps who had gotten in an argument with the American trainers during a meeting in a conference room at the Afghan Air Force headquarters.

A U.S. official told ABC News they believe the pilot left the meeting after the argument, then returned and forced the Americans to remove their weapons before shooting them with a U.S. provided M9 semi-automatic weapon.

"After the shooting started, we saw a number of Afghan army officers and soldiers running out of the building. Some were even throwing themselves out of the windows to get away," said Afghan Air Corps spokesman Col. Bahader.

A quick reaction force arrived at the scene shortly after the shootings and found the shooter dead. Officials believe the gunman killed himself.

The dead included eight U.S military personnel and one American contractor. Five Afghan soldiers were also injured in the shooting, said Bahader.

It was the deadliest incident so far of an Afghan ally turning against his coalition partners, officials said. This is the seventh time this year that coalition soldiers or Afghan security forces have been killed by either members of the Afghan security force or insurgents impersonating them.

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 The Taliban claimed the shooter was an insurgent who impersonated an officer to gain access to the secure area. Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said the gunman impersonated an officer and gained access to the facility with the help of others working there.

The Taliban have been known to take credit for attacks they are not connected to, and Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi said the gunman worked "for 20 years flying for the Afghan Air Force" and was not an insurgent.

"An argument happened between him and the foreigners and we have to investigate that," Azimi said.

An Afghan pilot, who requested not to be named, said the gunman was 50-year-old Ahmad Gul from Tarakhail district of Kabul province.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the violence and ordered his defense and security officials to investigate the cause of the recent incidents.

Other Incidents:

 April 18 - An insurgent kills two Afghan soldiers and an officer at the Afghan Defense Ministry.

 April 16 - Six American troops, four Afghan soldiers and an interpreter are killed when an Afghan soldier detonates an explosive vest at Forward Operating Base Gamberi in Laghman.

 April 15 - A suicide bomber impersonating a policeman blows himself up inside the Kandahar police headquarters complex, killing the top law enforcement official in the southern province.

 April 4 - Two American military personnel are shot and killed by a man wearing an Afghan border police uniform.

 February - An Afghan solider shoots nine German soldiers, killing three and injuring six.

 January - One Italian soldier is killed and another is wounded after an Afghan soldier opens fire on them.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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WTF?   Why did they give up their arms?     God damn it!  

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Meanwhile - Grifter-in-Chief is on Oprah, partying, playing golf, binge drinking, doing fund raisers, joking with Hollywood idiots about his Birth Certificate, etc.


Yeah, lets start talking issues Obama.       

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Obama was probably break dancing and doing the fist pump with Michelle in the dressing room before Oprah to celebrate this victory for Allah.

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Obama was probably break dancing and doing the fist pump with Michelle in the dressing room before Oprah to celebrate this victory for Allah.

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Obama Regime orders U.S. troops in Afghanistan to carry WEAPONS with NO BULLETS!
Posted on November 16, 2010

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This is the direct result of having a poser not fit for command in command. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it, I’m J.C.

Military officers say, “Forcing troops to carry unloaded weapons on patrol is criminally negligent.” “Patrolling without a chambered round is suicide.”

First they want to give medals for “courageous restraint.” Now they want to tie both hands behinds our soldiers’ backs. This isn’t suicide, it’s negligent homicide, in my book.

(Human Events)- Commanders have ordered a U.S. military unit in Afghanistan to patrol with unloaded weapons, according to a source in Afghanistan. American soldiers in at least one unit have been ordered to conduct patrols without a round chambered in their weapons, an anonymous source stationed at a forward operating base in Afghanistan said in an interview.

When a weapon has a loaded magazine, but the safety is on and no round is chambered, the military refers to this condition as “amber status.” Weapons on “red status” are ready to fire—they have a round in the chamber and the safety is off.

“Our overall aim is to defeat the insurgency which means we must gain and then maintain the support of the Afghan population,” said Lieutenant Commander Iain Baxter, a spokesman for NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in a statement to HUMAN EVENTS.

“This must be the objective of every action taken by ISAF service members, and it calls for responses that de-escalate situations where the use of deadly force may not be necessary. In doing this, leaders at all levels make enormous efforts to ensure that troops balance their own protection with the protection of the Afghan population.”

“The idea that any combat unit would conduct any operation, including patrolling and even manning a security post—in which direct action may or may not take place—and not having weapons loaded, borders on being criminally negligent in my opinion,” says Lt. Col. W. Thomas Smith Jr., a recognized expert on terrorism and military issues. “This is nothing more than infusing politically correct restrictions into already overly restrictive rules of engagement. And this PC nonsense is going to get people killed.”

According to Smith, “American soldiers are highly skilled in the use of ‘loaded’ weapons, and so should be trusted to operate with ‘loaded’ weapons. If someone overseeing decisions on ROE [rules of engagement] thinks not, then ratchet up training. But don’t put a man on the street and force him to go through multiple prompts when a gunfight breaks out. Remember, the situation can go from quiet to kinetic in half the time it takes to breathe.”

In an ambush situation, just how long does it take to engage a target when your weapon isn’t already loaded?

“Too long,” states Sandy Daniel, military veteran and deputy director of the Victory Institute. “The first couple of seconds in an ambush are critical, and when that block of time is used to load a weapon instead of firing, you are losing the time you need to stay alive. Patrolling without a chambered round is suicide.”

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Fox News: 9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons!


Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.

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Yeah and you won't hear about this on the news.  The royal wedding is so much more important.  This war is such bullsh*t now.  America doesn't even know its going on anymore.  Pull the troops out now, vote Ron Paul, he's the only one that will do it.
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Yeah and you won't hear about this on the news.  The royal wedding is so much more important.  This war is such bullsh*t now.  America doesn't even know its going on anymore.  Pull the troops out now, vote Ron Paul, he's the only one that will do it.

Funny - the dopes on this board complain about the birther stuff, yet NEVER address real issues like this.   

Like I say - the eft loves the birther issue, need the birther issue, and dont want it to go away.

My first comment in this thread was asking why they gave up their firearms, now we know.   

Unbelievable.   I would impeach and imprison obama/mcchrystal and whoever else came up with these crazy ROE.   Additionally, if I had a kid of age, I would beg, plead, and do whatever possible to keep them out of the military so long as they have a communist traitor like obama as C-I-C who cares more about the gz mosque, granting citizenship to terrorists, etc, than to our troops.       

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"military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."

-Henry Kissinger

(German born) Former U.S. Secretary of State/National Security Advisor



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"military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."

-Henry Kissinger

(German born) Former U.S. Secretary of State/National Security Advisor





So you're making fun of yourself? Or are you no longer in the military?  ::)


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No I am quoting Henry Kissinger so people that don't know about him can see how much of a dirtbag he is.

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Lets see how these Osama cocksmokers explain this shit--

Having our servicemen and women patrol hostile territory with unloaded fucking firearms? Are you fucking kidding me? How idiotic can you get? Unless you purposely want our soldiers to be murdered, this has to be the dumbest most ass backward way to fight a war in the history of mankind.

Obama and his knuckle dragging wife should be dismembered with sharpened spoon.

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Lets see how these Osama cocksmokers explain this shit--

Having our servicemen and women patrol hostile territory with unloaded fucking firearms? Are you fucking kidding me? How idiotic can you get? Unless you purposely want our soldiers to be murdered, this has to be the dumbest most ass backward way to fight a war in the history of mankind.

Obama and his knuckle dragging wife should be dismembered with sharpened spoon.

When i first read the story - i knew something sounded fucked up.   And what kind of training are these guys getting?   Sounds like I need to send my Ghetto IHOP fights thread to the military to show them how to throw a beat down.   

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No I am quoting Henry Kissinger so people that don't know about him can see how much of a dirtbag he is.



Sure, you are. Because that's relevant to this thread. Nice try, gimmick.

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wait - unloaded and unchambered are 2 diff things.  Not that an unchambered gun is that useful :)

I thought the 9 men surrendered their weapons cause bad guy had drop on them?  They were really disarmed in that section?  fail.

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Sure, you are. Because that's relevant to this thread. Nice try, gimmick.

Well it is relevant if you take time to think about it.  Not sure why you have a vendetta against me, a total stranger behind a screename, but whatever, I don't have to justify myself to you.
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