Osama Bin Laden - is Dead!!!!!

[tu_holmes]

What did you do, consult the census and check the USA Today for when Jesus was around?

Exactly... There is actually census data from that era that discuss other people from the time Jesus was supposedly around... but no Jesus.

There is also no direct people to have written about Jesus that wrote anything when he was supposedly alive... Everyone wrote everything after he was "dead" already.

If someone started writing shit 20-30 years after George Washington died, but there was zero evidence that he existed, would you believe that he was real or fiction?

Just because some damn cult started talking all this crap about him doesn't make it any truer...

Christianity is the biggest group of sheep around... That's just truth... Zero proof, but believe it anyway.

Whatever.

[Grape Ape]

i think its not a good response to cheer and party for someone who is shot dead, even if thats osama. we are not like these savages who cheered on the street on 9/11 then why act just like them.

There's a difference between cheering the death of 3000+ innocents and cheering the death of the murderer who orchestrated it.

[loco]

Exactly... There is actually census data from that era that discuss other people from the time Jesus was supposedly around... but no Jesus.

Let's see it.  Or is this another one of your unsubstantiated claims?

There is also no direct people to have written about Jesus that wrote anything when he was supposedly alive... Everyone wrote everything after he was "dead" already.

If someone started writing shit 20-30 years after George Washington died, but there was zero evidence that he existed, would you believe that he was real or fiction?

Just because some damn cult started talking all this crap about him doesn't make it any truer...

Christianity is the biggest group of sheep around... That's just truth... Zero proof, but believe it anyway.

Whatever.

I already presented you with non-Christian, extra-Biblical historical records of Jesus.

Do you have any ancient history records that deny the Christian Jesus?

And how about that evidence that Jesus is the same as the story of Horus?  I'm waiting.

[Butterbean]

http://timelines.latimes.com/osama/  (additional text and pics at link)

1957
Osama bin Laden is born to privilege in Saudi Arabia in 1957. He spends his spent his youth in mansions filled with crystal chandeliers, gold statues and Italian tapestries. He became known as the most pious of the sons among his wealthy father's 54 children. Bin Laden's path to militant Islam began as a teenager in the 1970s when he got caught up in the fundamentalist movement then sweeping Saudi Arabia. He was a voracious reader of Islamic literature and listened to weekly sermons in the holy city of Mecca.


1967
Bin Laden's father is killed in a plane crash. Bin Laden's share of the inheritance is reportedly about $300 million.


1972
Bin Laden is believed to take his first bride about this time. He is about 18, the girl, Najwa, is 14.


1979
Osama bin Laden drops out of King Abdul Aziz School for Economics and Management in Saudi Arabia to join Afghan mujahedin fighting Soviet forces in Afghanistan.


1980s
Bin Laden becomes a figure of worldwide influence as a supporter of Muslim freedom fighters in Afghanistan.


1979-89
Bin Laden uses personal wealth to create cells of fighters from around the Muslim world against Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He forms Al Qaeda, or the "base," a recruitment, fundraising and training organization.


1990
Iraq invades Kuwait. America deploys 500,000 troops in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden tried to dissuade the government from allowing non-Muslim armies into the land where the Prophet Muhammad gave birth to Islam, but the Saudi leadership turned to the United States to protect its vast oil reserves. When bin Laden continued criticizing Riyadh's close alliance with Washington, he was stripped of Saudi citizenship.


1991
Bin Laden relocates to Sudan. Maintains camp in Afghanistan to train non-Afghan Muslims. Finances Pakistani guesthouses used on and off by Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, later implicated in plot to kill the pope in Manila and bomb the World Trade Center.

[Butterbean]

1992
Bin Laden followers are linked to two hotel bomb attacks aimed at U.S. troops deployed in Yemen for Somalia mission.


1993
Bin Laden backers attack American troops in Somalia.


1994
Saudi Arabia clamps down on activist Islamic clergy, revokes Bin Laden's citizenship.


1995
Bin Laden calls for the expulsion of Americans from Saudi Arabia. Five American soldiers killed in bombing in Riyadh, the Saudi capital; convicted bombers claim they were influenced by Bin Laden's thinking.


1996
Declares "war" against the United States, lauds bombing of Khobar Towers barracks in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 U.S. service personnel.


May 18, 1996
After the U.S. pressures Sudan to expel Bin Laden, he flees to the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad.

1997
The Taliban uncovers what it says is a plot by the Saudis to assassinate Bin Laden; for his own protection, he moves to an old Soviet air base outside Kandahar, Afghanistan.

[Butterbean]

February 1998
At a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan, Bin Laden and other hard-line leaders announce the creation of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders.


Aug. 7, 1998
Al-Qaeda's first major strike after bin Laden returned to Afghanistan was on Aug. 7, 1998, when twin explosions rocked U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Most of the victims were African passers-by, but the bombings also killed 12 Americans. Days later, bin Laden escaped a cruise missile strike on one of his training camps in Afghanistan launched by the United States in retaliation. Bin Laden is believed to have been at the Zhawar Kili Al-Badr camp for a meeting with several of his top men, but left shortly before some 70 Tomahawk cruise missiles slammed into the dusty complex.


February 1999
In a magazine interview, Bin Laden says: "We believe that the biggest thieves in the world and the terrorists are the Americans. The only way for us to fend off these assaults is to use similar means."


Oct. 12, 2000
The bombing of the U.S. destroyer Cole in Yemen kills 17 sailors. Bin Laden is suspected of involvement in the attack.




September 11, 2001
In the worst terrorist attack ever against the United States, hijackers struck at the preeminent symbols of the nation's wealth and might Tuesday, flying airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and killing or injuring thousands of people.


November 2001
On a video later obtained by U.S. authorities, Bin Laden laughs when recalling the carnage of Sept. 11.

[Butterbean]

Dec. 27, 2001
He reappeared in a video appearance broadcast by Al-Jazeera on Dec. 27, 2001, shortly after U.S. forces apparently had him cornered in Tora Bora, a giant cave complex in eastern Afghanistan. Hundreds of al-Qaida suspects are believed to have escaped the massive U.S. bombing campaign there, and bin Laden is believed to have been among them.


Nov. 14, 2002
After melting into the mountains of Afghanistan more than a year earlier, Bin Laden makes a careful and calculated comeback by resurfacing with a new tape.


Jan. 5, 2004
Al Jazeera broadcast an audiotape purportedly from Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, in which he urged Muslims to continue fighting a "holy war" in Iraq and the Middle East rather than cooperate with peace efforts. The speaker, who referred to recent events — including the Dec. 13 capture of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein — called on Muslims to "continue the jihad to check the conspiracies that are hatched against the Islamic nation." He said the U.S.-led war against Iraq was the beginning of the "occupation" of Persian Gulf states for their oil.


October 2004
Bin Laden releases an 18-minute tape in the last days of the U.S. presidential election. He cites American involvement in Lebanon in 1982 as motive for the 9/11 attacks and says neither candidate for president can guarantee security. U.S. experts say the Al Qaeda leader is trying to trade in his global terrorist image for that of elder statesman among Muslims.


2006
After a long silence, bin Laden stepped up his messages in 2006, and the subjects he addressed became more political. In January 2006, he addressed his comments to the American people rather than U.S. President George W. Bush because, he said, polls showed "an overwhelming majority" of Americans wanted a withdrawal from Iraq. He even recommended Americans pick up a copy of the book "The Rogue State," which he said offered a path to peace.

[Butterbean]

May 1, 2011
Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan as the result of a U.S. military operation, President Obama announced to the nation in a live address.

[Benny B]

For years Osama bin Laden was thought to be hiding in Afghanistan's eastern mountain ranges.

Western military powers poured billions of dollars into a kill or capture operation there.

James Bays has travelled to Sarobi, east of the capital Kabul, and found people there in mourning for the al Qaeda leader.

[The Ugly]

James Bays has travelled to Sarobi, east of the capital Kabul, and found people there in mourning for the al Qaeda leader.

Shocking.

[Ex Coelis]

yes, we should listen to the opinions of illiterate opium farmers who beat their women and molest little boys every Thursday

[tbombz]

yes, we should listen to the opinions of illiterate opium farmers who beat their women and molest little boys every Thursday

[DroppingPlates]

[cswol]

bin laden was a cia agent who worked for the USA starting in 78 when the cia formed al queda, which the cia used to invade afghanastan in 1978 to drive the russians out of the country, bin laden died of kidney disease in 2002.  The illuminati and the us government use al queda to invade other countries and take their assets.

[pellius]

i think its not a good response to cheer and party for someone who is shot dead, even if thats osama. we are not like these savages who cheered on the street on 9/11 then why act just like them.

There's a world of difference between cheering that you were successful in targeting and killing innocent people just going to work and killing the man responsible for these murders. The moral equivalence fallacy rampant on this thread is mind boggling.

The message is, and should be, that if you target and kill innocent civilians (and I guess I have to point out that there is a difference between targeting civilians and civilians being killed during times of war especially when our enemies uses them as human shields) then we will get you. Whether it today, tomorrow, next month, next year, ten years later -- we will get you.
 

[pellius]

Osama wasn't operational?  You sure about that?



Abu Faraj al-Libi, told interrogators that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed as al Qaeda's operational leader he received the word through a courier. Only bin Laden would have given al-Libi that promotion, CIA officials believed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/02/national/main20058979.shtml#ixzz1LJVOEzag


The trove of materials collected from the compound in which Osama bin Laden was killed includes 10 hard drives, five computers and more than 100 storage devices, a senior U.S. official told CNN Tuesday -- material that investigators hope will yield clues to help break the al Qaeda network and thwart future terrorist attacks.
Among the storage devices are disks, DVDs and thumb drives, the source said.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/03/bin.laden.dead/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Good post. Bin Laden still had money. Still could have financed operations. But either way I don't care whether he was operational. When the Israelis hunted down every last one of those monsters involved in the holocaust it made no difference what they were doing at the time. They were all hiding and were a danger to no one. It was what they did that warranted their punishment.

If someone slaughtered your family and he wasn't caught until years later when he was say 65 years old retired and tending his garden would you still want to just let him go? "He's no longer operational."

[pellius]

Riiiight... because what I said surely means that.

You are not special because you go "against the grain".

You're just a different kind of sheep.

lol! Another guy I'm starting to like around here. This thread is turning out to be a litmus test separating those who understand that there is real evil in the world and must be destroyed and those that think it's all a matter of perspective. And no one has the right to say that something is bad or wrong for someone else. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

[pellius]

Well that's your point of view, and I really don't feel the need to be "special", no, I just want to know the truth, and truth is not what you find in de main stream media, and maybe not even in sub-stream media.

You obviously don't give a damn about the truth or even seeking for truth, instead you WANT  to believe nothing else but the lies you've been told.

Good luck with that.

Obviously you're a brilliant man and have the inside scoop on life, the universe and everything. You know the truth that has managed to elude the rest of the world. Everything is simply made up. Everyone in power throughout the world is in on it whereas you know everything.

Tell us the truth, master. And tell us how you know these truths that have eluded us all.

[Army of One]

News reports now saying he was unarmed when he was shot - OWNED!!

[pellius]

No you don't.  Without presenting any proof, you claimed Jesus Christ is a myth and never was a historical figure.  I debated you on this and you came up empty handed.

How about Socrates? Just made up as well? Never wrote a thing and preceded Christ. Alexander the Great? What proof do you have he ever existed? No pics or vids on youtube. Just hearsay. Just people believing what they want to believe.

Guys like you crack me up. Think you're so above it all when you can never prove or back up any of your claims.  

[Papper]

What happened between '06 and '11?

[chunkramwell]

Interesting information brother.

[lovemonkey]

Intriguing. Any evidence for this?

[Marty Champions]

king a23 is more of  secret agent than bin laden will ever be

[Max_Rep]

May 2, 2011
Osama bin Laden sleeps with the fishes.