For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol

[Stavios]

All that risk to get 5th in an amateur show!
Put on 10 pounds of fat, go natural and enjoy bodybuilding into your '80's mate. Time is too precious to risk this shit unless you have the genetics to turn pro.

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

[affeman]

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Dude, we're not talking about 80s. With the amount of chemicals you're putting in your body we rather talk about 60s, maybe even 50s if you're unlucky.

What for? Get an education and set yourself better goals in life than just increasing muscle and lose fat, which ruins your health, consumes all of your day and money while nobody is giving a flying fuck except for yourself.

You're not even that ugly (no homo), why do you have such a destructive attitude to life. Most guys acting like you are the really ugly MoFos, or the short ones, who have a shortcoming they need to overcompensate by any means.

[Trev]

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  

[Shockwave]

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Agree.
I dont understand people when they get on about that shit...

The years of your life that steroids, drugs, alcohol, etc, take from you, are the SHITTY years where youre can barely walk, shitting yourself, pissing yourself, and requiring people to help you do as simple a task as feed yourself.Plus there is no guarantee that you wont develop something crazy like alzeirmers or cancer and die anyway.
My theory. Enjoy your life now, as there is no guarantee that if you live your life totally clean and pure, that youll even reach that age.
Why waste the prime of your life avoiding things that make you happy, in the hope that you tack 10 years on to the shittiest part of your life.

[affeman]

Agree.
I dont understand people when they get on about that shit...

The years of your life that steroids, drugs, alcohol, etc, take from you, are the SHITTY years where youre can barely walk, shitting yourself, pissing yourself, and requiring people to help you do as simple a task as feed yourself.Plus there is no guarantee that you wont develop something crazy like alzeirmers or cancer and die anyway.
My theory. Enjoy your life now, as there is no guarantee that if you live your life totally clean and pure, that youll even reach that age.
Why waste the prime of your life avoiding things that make you happy, in the hope that you tack 10 years on to the shittiest part of your life.

It all depends. My Grandpa is in his 80s, loaded beyond imagination, and fit like a guy in his 50s. He's travelling the world, still riding his bike, playing tennis, drives bigwig cars and enjoys life with his wife on his huge mansion or at one of his holiday apartments. Still he is politically active in several unions etc.

I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.

[Stavios]

Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  

Like I said many times before on here:

my fdad never drank, never did drugs, and kept saving money for his retirement so he could make trips and etc.

in his late 40's he got SUPER sick, almost died, now he is always too tired to make anything, he goes to sleep right after work.

he lost a lot of his money because my parents divorced and had to give half to my mom.


wow.. YEARS of saving up for the futur for what now ?

I spoke a lot with him and he agreed  that if he had to do it all over again, he would do everything he wants when he wants to do it and when he had the health

[mesmorph78]

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

tom prince and mike matazzaro had this view too
to quote matazzaro he said post heart triple by ass
i wish i had continued driving my delivery truck...

[Stavios]

I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.

WTF !

I don't "hate" the world ??

I just like to do whatever the fuck I want that makes me happy

to each his own

[Hulkotron]

STFU!!! Don't doubt the truth. This man will double in size and you will remain a tiny tit

x3 suckmymuscle shut up please

[Deicide]

Roids all the way!

[Trev]

Like I said many times before on here:

my fdad never drank, never did drugs, and kept saving money for his retirement so he could make trips and etc.

in his late 40's he got SUPER sick, almost died, now he is always too tired to make anything, he goes to sleep right after work.

he lost a lot of his money because my parents divorced and had to give half to my mom.


wow.. YEARS of saving up for the futur for what now ?

I spoke a lot with him and he agreed  that if he had to do it all over again, he would do everything he wants when he wants to do it and when he had the health

There you go, your Dad gave you your genes and he nearly died in his 40's without the drugs!!! Gives you about 5 years tops then. ENJOY  

[delta9mda]

all the STAV haters on here. fuck? let him be juiced to the gills and do what he wants. STAV, hit it hard. just make sure to have that honey bear enema ready for the "insulin shock". 

[lesaucer]

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 

BOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!

die for mass!! slin coma!! TEST overdose!! Tren cough till death!!!!!! bodybuilding 101, baby!

[Shockwave]

It all depends. My Grandpa is in his 80s, loaded beyond imagination, and fit like a guy in his 50s. He's travelling the world, still riding his bike, playing tennis, drives bigwig cars and enjoys life with his wife on his huge mansion or at one of his holiday apartments. Still he is politically active in several unions etc.

I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.

Wow. Way to pretty much fail at everything you hypothesized.
The point of my post was to go do what you want because there is no guarantee that the future your saving yourself for is even gonna be there.
Live life while you have the chance, don't waste the best years trying to make sure that youre going to make it to old age.
FYI I love life, am happily married, have an awesome family and an awesome career. I may not make 6 figures, but I get up everyday looking forward to what I do, and it pays well enough to support my family and my auto racing hobby, so you're pretty much wrong on every point you tried to make.

Your post reads like those bitter men I know that spent their whole life avoiding things that might be "bad for their health" or "dangerous", only to realize they didn't LIVE their life or experience SHIT, and that they spent their whole life preparing to die.

[Rearden Metal]

Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  

Tons of former or current using guys in 50's, 60's, 70's that are as healthy or more so than their non-using counterparts.

Who cares, juicing is fun and within reason doesn't do a fucking thing adversely compared to tons of over the counter drugs. Quit crying and get your cycle already.

[Meso_z]

Its 100% safe as long as you dont abuse them.

[Brocty]

FUcking annoying getbiggers in this thread.

The man is ready to mutate.  And he wants it, let the man follow his path!

[OptimusPrime1980]

not doing what you really want and stress of living a live the way others want takes years of your life!
steroids are pretty safe actually...
Stavios lookes great, feels great and is happy doing what he loves.
I also do whatever the fu?%k i want.
I told my girl goodbye and I am moving back to Brasil, fu(çk doing what people expect! from me.
live now! do steroids....  gh whenever i can afford...
Look like a god, feel like one!
Stavios props man!

[Stavios]

There you go, your Dad gave you your genes and he nearly died in his 40's without the drugs!!! Gives you about 5 years tops then. ENJOY  

then so be it 

[Hulkotron]

Testosterona: The Nectar of Life

[gh15]

dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved

[Max B]

dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved

i always agree with everything you say but i really never understand your stance on rec drugs and alcohol..  Yes on top of tons of orals and diuretics you're fucked if u abuse them  but normally they arent too harmful.. do u know how many ppl are prescribed xanax and percocet?  I personally smoke weed everyday and do not even consider it a drug... it has done nothing harmful to me in years....  i actually recommened weed to aas users...... are u totally against Recs and alcohol or believe in moderation? whats your opinion on partying and shit? just do it while u arent using hormones if you do  choose to party

[gh15]

completly against recreational drugs and pain killers,,you abuse them? you will take years of your life...you abuse them with combo of hormones as in strain yhour body and take it in the gym to lift heavy weight in addtition to get prep for competition and that mean diuretic....you will not only shorten your life in general but you will most likley die or get very very sick during your bodybuild years..

what kill you are the following


pain killer combo with booz and with diuretics .....every single bodybuild or westler who gone through this combo for a good year or 2 had severe health problems from kidny fail to liver problems and caner if done for number of years continously and in times death,,

remember people dont tell you what they use! americano people are very secretive to what they use,,many many many americanos drink like crazy im talkin here females!! female americano can go through 6 bottle of beers like it wss water...and in times they will drink half the vodka bottle after...FEMALES! ,,now just imagine the americano men...that with pain killer and rec drugs on regular basis will shorten your life...and if not shorten your life get you sick...

we do not die from hormones,,,we die from the other shit that is very descrete ....peoel still dont get it

my opinion on partying? useless for bodybuilding,,chris never won o  because he partyed ,,he actualy had good chance if he didnt to get one sandow or atlest to consistantly place top 2-3 for years...he didnt because he ws partying and rec addict


BOOZ + PAIN KILLER + REC + HORMONES = EARLY DEATH OR DEATH OR LOSS OF IMPORTANT ORGANS AND FINISH OF BODYBUILD LIFE

hormones by themselves? you can do all day long wont matter actually your body wil be stronger and more invinsible ,,you wil be the healthiest fella around,,notice fellas on hormones hardly get sick ,,they dont,,10 yeasrs with  no fever or sickness ...but! theose are the fellas who are TRULY ONLY on hormones

gh15 approved

[Stavios]

GH15, what is the best insulin for pupil Stavios ??

I have only tried Humalog before but some say longer acting insulin is better ?

[Max B]

I'm done getting fucked up off recs, i wasted enough time with that shit... i will still drink as its a social thing and i like to get a little tipsy, plus women love taking me out for drinks but i wont touch rec drugs anymore except for weed. i will smoke weed until the day comes... weed is not a rec drug its more of a medicine.   once i go full blown on hormones i wont touch shit except for green and a cpl drinks every month.    what about ephedrine gh15 what ur take on 'uppers'