Author Topic: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol (Read 47730 times)

Benoitlapierre · « **Reply #125 on:** May 06, 2011, 05:16:09 AM »

Quote from: no one on May 06, 2011, 05:00:31 AM

on a keto diet you run gh right up until your show?

so you dont carb up then? just curious wouldnt having the gh in cause water issues if you carb up in the last 2-3 days?

i carb up 12 hours a la dorian thursd , it full up ,, and no thiazide , no water retention , i go back right dieting friday to fix waist n shape ,,,, have sugar befor hit stage , saturday , both times ,, then strategical rebound mass keto once done

i do hiit til contest , and i do deadlift cardio 10 x 20 in 20 min til contest

carb up more then 12 hours will b major bloating , it max out

use letro + aromasin + eq + prop + tren ace + primo + ephedrine gh til contest day / i do stop slin tho , stop npp deca enanthate 3 weeks out

that me at 7 week out , was 270 offseason , that pic 250 after 3 weeks dieting lost all water retention look like someone else, now 245 , will b 222- ,,,, hopefully 225

gh15 · « **Reply #126 on:** May 06, 2011, 05:17:13 AM »

always count on food rather rthan shake,,eggwhites the only drink that can replace solid food,,rest should be real food,,the simple sugars post insulin ...i recomend pine apple juice dole in the little cans this is the best sugar around you wont find any better...all natural ....look at the islanders they take lots of pineapple....it also help to digestive system ,,and i can garentee you it protect the liver 10 times better than any liver 504982 pills,,

always count on real food ....eggwhite drinks are REAL FOOD,,protien shakes are not! real food

the insulina protocol of mutant is good but at the higher level we take MUCH MUCH MUCHHHH more...much more often ,,i also cant remember the last time i took creatine in any form..that garbage is only good for bloat...you want creatine? eat beef and or use oxandrolone...it will keep all your creatine in top number and will actualy get it in the muscle...im talking the little creatine your body get from natural foods and not from the garbage powder...bcaa waist...igf ...complete waist it increases guts sizes you dont want it..the insulina will do it with time but if used right with hgh it wont for quite sometime while you grow 20-30 lb,,

the protocol ill give you of insulina will come before the olympia,,,again mutant protocol is good but it wil put you at 210-220lb ripped not 240-250 ripped

higher does on everything ... both gh and insulina in particular ,,again yo need to know what you are doing with insulina because if you DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH HGH IN SYSTEM YOU WILL GET FAT!

gh15 approved

gh15 · « **Reply #127 on:** May 06, 2011, 05:20:17 AM »

now its true i said that protien shaqke is liek real food in past and body doenst recognize the difference....it is true,,but! always count on REAL food not because shake is not food...but because shakes makes you retain water...always ALWAYS make you hodl more water ,,water fucks up lines and i dont care how big you are if your lines are fucked you wil never look like bodybuilder

gh15 approved

Benoitlapierre · « **Reply #128 on:** May 06, 2011, 05:30:12 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 04:59:19 AM

LMAO !!

WTF Ben you never sleep ??

seems like you have been awake the whole night

nope i eat every 3 hours 24/7

goin shockwave therapy this morning tho , for scar tissue built up ... deep tissue massage or ART cant fix

buselmo · « **Reply #129 on:** May 06, 2011, 05:57:15 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 07:41:52 PM

220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

that's the best you've ever looked!
jacked as fuck bro!

Stavios · « **Reply #130 on:** May 06, 2011, 06:56:09 AM »

Quote from: buselmo on May 06, 2011, 05:57:15 AM

that's the best you've ever looked!
jacked as fuck bro!

<

thanks bro !

I feel I look my best since I dropped the test and only use high dose of other products !

now that I enter the off-season I'll try high doses of deca to help a bit with the joints also since I train pretty often !

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #131 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:06:20 AM »

Quote from: pellius on May 05, 2011, 11:53:00 PM

You ain't finding out nothing and you ain't doing shit because you can't do shit. You are a seriously disturbed and delusional little fucktard that no one respects of even likes. You have never ever backed up or proved any of the claims or boast you constantly make. gh15 will be here as long as he wants to and you can make all the threats you want but in the end he's still eating sushi and you're still eating shit.

YES, KEEP SUCKING ON THIS TROLL'S TINY PECKER YOU PHAGGOT. YOU ARE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? YOU HAVE NO INDIVIDUALITY, NO INTELLIGENCE, NO SELF-RESPECT. YOU BASICALLY ARE HERE TO SUCH ON TROLL "GH15" LITTLE DICK AND BE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. AT LEAST I HAVE SELF-RESPECT, SOMETHING YOU LACK. I AM NOT ANYONE'S LACKEY LIKE YOU. NOW GO PRACTICE YOUR BLOW JOB TECHNIQUE ON AN OLIVE. THAT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF YOUR MASTER'S DICK.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Deicide · « **Reply #132 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:10:04 AM »

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #133 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:11:29 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 01:01:10 AM

you are lucky i know youre not stable in the head kido,, if i really believd your words you woudl be in prison now under controled delivery of lots of hormones to your door step with out you even knowing how it landed there,,it would be present from your mama,,
lunatik

gh15 approved

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Deicide · « **Reply #134 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:14:10 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:11:29 AM

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

WillGrant · « **Reply #135 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:29:40 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 06:56:09 AM

<

thanks bro !

I feel I look my best since I dropped the test and only use high dose of other products !

now that I enter the off-season I'll try high doses of deca to help a bit with the joints also since I train pretty often !

Nandralone makes me fucking tired $:-\$ - plus bitchy

Stavios · « **Reply #136 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:42:13 AM »

Quote from: WillGrant on May 06, 2011, 07:29:40 AM

Nandralone makes me fucking tired $:-\$ - plus bitchy

lmao, more bitchy than on Tren

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca

xpac2 · « **Reply #137 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:44:46 AM »

I'm sorry but you people are fucking retards for Listening to GH15. Hes a phony and you morons are putting your health on the line based on his advice?! Stupidest fucking people on the planet. Take a look at his first posts where he talks about craig titus he speaks perfect english..once he created his bullshit persona he started pretending he cudnt speak it..and you retards are listening to him!

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #138 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:54:22 AM »

Quote from: xpac2 on May 06, 2011, 07:44:46 AM

I'm sorry but you people are fucking retards for Listening to GH15. Hes a phony and you morons are putting your health on the line based on his advice?! Stupidest fucking people on the planet. Take a look at his first posts where he talks about craig titus he speaks perfect english..once he created his bullshit persona he started pretending he cudnt speak it..and you retards are listening to him!

For fuck sakes, a guy who gets it. I am moved.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Stavios · « **Reply #139 on:** May 06, 2011, 07:57:34 AM »

Quote from: pellius on May 06, 2011, 02:27:08 AM

Why don't you just tell your pupils the proper way to use slin. Guys that are going to do it are going to do it. I don't think one can screw up much with AAS or HGH but it seems you can screw up royally with insulin. This is an example of an insulin protocol recommended by Mutant who many consider an authority on HGH and Slin and consequently many follow. Is this what pupil Stavios should be doing?

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 10iu HGH subq

- -15 min prior to workout: Take 6-16iu Novalog subq

- -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

- -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

- -Go home

- -Take 100mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)

- -Take down shake #3

- -Done..now you are huge
Ok, now what is in the shakes...

Shake 1: 10-20g EAA's (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Low DE Maltodextrin, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg Caffeine (or pre-workout powdered mix of choice in place of caffeine)
Thought for research to conclude if the most beneficial amount of carbs would be in the range of 7-10g per iu of insuline used. So at drink #1 with 4iu's being 28-40g of carbs and again with drink #2....keeping extra glucose tabs, sugar or whatever near as a back up should this not be enough.....

Shake 2: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 50-100g Dextrose, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

Shake 3: 2 cups pasteurized egg whites, 1 cup dry oats, 1 banana or 1 cup blueberries (I prefer them to be frozen), splenda or stevia

Hey Pellius, what I will be doing will be a little bit like that, the only difference is that post workout I prefer having a solid mea instead of a shake !

so I'll drink half my shake before the workout and sip on the rest during the workout , then afterward I'll have 2 cups of mashed potatoes with 250gr of horse meat. I feel I have less chance of going hypo after the workout when I do this.

plus, shakes kinda taste bad after having so many (I train rtwice a day so 'ill shoot slin before the 2 workouts)

g101 · « **Reply #140 on:** May 06, 2011, 08:34:45 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 07:42:13 AM

lmao, more bitchy than on Tren

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca

every1 in montreal uses deca lmao

Trev · « **Reply #141 on:** May 06, 2011, 08:43:46 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:11:29 AM

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Watch the sun set tonight then get yourself laid dude. Life is great - Enjoy

Stavios · « **Reply #142 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:02:35 AM »

Quote from: g101 on May 06, 2011, 08:34:45 AM

every1 in montreal uses deca lmao

if you talk gear with somebody who is 45+ years old, you can be sure he uses deca

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #143 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:05:18 AM »

What a crazy fuckin' thread ! LMAO !!! Goddamn ! Lol ! Stavios ... do WHATEVER the hell you want to do. Screw those that say you can't ! Do I condone what you plan to do ? Who gives a fuck !? Doesn't matter what I think ! Doesn't matter what ANYONE thinks but YOU ! LOL ! Props to you, brother, and good luck ! I"ll be cheerin' ya on.

Stavios · « **Reply #144 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:06:50 AM »

Quote from: The_Iron_Disciple on May 06, 2011, 09:05:18 AM

What a crazy fuckin' thread ! LMAO !!! Goddamn ! Lol ! Stavios ... do WHATEVER the hell you want to do. Screw those that say you can't ! Do I condone what you plan to do ? Who gives a fuck !? Doesn't matter what I think ! Doesn't matter what ANYONE thinks but YOU ! LOL ! Props to you, brother, and good luck ! I"ll be cheerin' ya on.

This thread turned out good, great infos in there

thanks for your support man

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #145 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:09:57 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:54:22 AM

For fuck sakes, a guy who gets it. I am moved.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

people are sheep.... ive said this yrs ago

on the flip side stavios looks good ...

Hulkotron · « **Reply #146 on:** May 06, 2011, 09:20:39 AM »

"Hardgainers" are the most irritating people in gym culture.

Also people who claim to have "fast metabolism". Usually they are one and the same. Another word for hardgainer is "weighs 165 lbs and eats 1900 kcals a day." If you weigh X lbs and want to weigh Y lbs you have to eat like you weigh Y lbs, no MSN or CFT certifications required to obtain these knowledges.

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #147 on:** May 06, 2011, 10:01:14 AM »

Quote from: Deicide on May 06, 2011, 07:10:04 AM

Best asot of all time.

Ursus · « **Reply #148 on:** May 06, 2011, 10:01:32 AM »

Stay safe Stavios!

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #149 on:** May 06, 2011, 10:05:13 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 05:17:13 AM

always count on food rather rthan shake,,eggwhites the only drink that can replace solid food,,rest should be real food,,the simple sugars post insulin ...i recomend pine apple juice dole in the little cans this is the best sugar around you wont find any better...all natural ....look at the islanders they take lots of pineapple....it also help to digestive system ,,and i can garentee you it protect the liver 10 times better than any liver 504982 pills,,

always count on real food ....eggwhite drinks are REAL FOOD,,protien shakes are not! real food

the insulina protocol of mutant is good but at the higher level we take MUCH MUCH MUCHHHH more...much more often ,,i also cant remember the last time i took creatine in any form..that garbage is only good for bloat...you want creatine? eat beef and or use oxandrolone...it will keep all your creatine in top number and will actualy get it in the muscle...im talking the little creatine your body get from natural foods and not from the garbage powder...bcaa waist...igf ...complete waist it increases guts sizes you dont want it..the insulina will do it with time but if used right with hgh it wont for quite sometime while you grow 20-30 lb,,

the protocol ill give you of insulina will come before the olympia,,,again mutant protocol is good but it wil put you at 210-220lb ripped not 240-250 ripped

higher does on everything ... both gh and insulina in particular ,,again yo need to know what you are doing with insulina because if you DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH HGH IN SYSTEM YOU WILL GET FAT!

gh15 approved

So much truth here...I used to run Max Muscle and we sold digestive enzymes that were- you guessed it, derived from pinneapples.

GH15 is the fountain of truth on getbig.com