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Question for GH15
« on: May 04, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
...and forgive me if this has been asked before, but if the drug use in bodybuilding (which i have no problem with) is so formulaic, why is it that the top guys so rarely duplicate their top conditioning?

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011, 09:01:02 PM »
bodybuilder 6-7%,,

bodybuilder eat speicfic things and they make him hold more or less water,, this condition is changing by the HOUR! you can take pictures of yourself within 2-3 hour period and look smooth or ripped depending on what you ate and what you injected!

bodybuilder are human we are not machines,, we have human body,,

i suggest you take fella 6% and let him eat bunch of sushi with rice....take picture in the morning that day ,,and then in the evening after the mega sushi dinner.. you will see that the picture you take after the sushi the bodybuilder wil look smoother,,he will still be 6% he will look fuller and smoother....but in many local gym guro eyes he suddenly will be 9% rather than his true 6% ...and this is where bodybuild get crazy and do crazy things,,

its injections and food that smoothen you up to some degree,,its all water maniuplation ,,,if you dont see the midian line clear and you saw it 24 hours ago pretty clear...it doesnt mean you are now fatzo....what it mean is that your body manipulated water in specific way,,

most lazy bodybuilder of the neew generation solve it with diuretics,,but then again you see the stomack viruses they getting...


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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 09:04:07 PM »
but the dieting is, presumably, as formulaic as the drug use... human or not, shouldn't it be easier to time these things after having done a handful of contests?

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2011, 09:09:37 PM »
nop,, ddiet is not formulatic nothing,,we eat anything we like on hgh,,we really do ,,we dont sit and drink oikl and eat burgers with 30% fat all day but we eat lots of fish sushi,,lots of good foods,,icecream,,we dont eat as clean as you think ,,we put icecream in out tummy alot more thna you think,,

the reason as i said is injections and food,, when it comes to stage time,,due to all the products we are on its  very easy to fuck up....many try to short cut ways with diuretic ,,many inject hgh for too long prior to shows and then wanna drop all the water with diuretic and try different things that dont always work ,,many are just too old and body start holding to water no mattter what,, it is a game of water,,

i keep tellin you here that fellas walk around 6-7 % and think they are 10-11 % because they hold water due to the products use now days and the doses and the qualitys...

bodybuilder that train for many years doesnt hold much fat,,, he hold much more water....the ones who actualy hold fat are the true naturals who if they are 8% that mean they are 8%  when you pinch their lower back there wil be no bounce there,,the back will be solid it wont poofed because there is very little water there,,,while you hav eto lsoe 5-15 lb of water ....they need to lose maybe 2-3 lb,,

homonized fellas especialy these days with hgh and insulina and the consistant usage of diuretic fuck condition very easily

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 10:34:15 PM »
bodybuilder eat speicfic things and they make him hold more or less water,,

When you say this, are you mainly talking about consuming excess carbs and sodium?

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2011, 10:36:45 PM »
nop,, ddiet is not formulatic nothing,,we eat anything we like on hgh,,we really do ,,we dont sit and drink oikl and eat burgers with 30% fat all day but we eat lots of fish sushi,,lots of good foods,,icecream,,we dont eat as clean as you think ,,we put icecream in out tummy alot more thna you think,,

the reason as i said is injections and food,, when it comes to stage time,,due to all the products we are on its  very easy to fuck up....many try to short cut ways with diuretic ,,many inject hgh for too long prior to shows and then wanna drop all the water with diuretic and try different things that dont always work ,,many are just too old and body start holding to water no mattter what,, it is a game of water,,

i keep tellin you here that fellas walk around 6-7 % and think they are 10-11 % because they hold water due to the products use now days and the doses and the qualitys...

bodybuilder that train for many years doesnt hold much fat,,, he hold much more water....the ones who actualy hold fat are the true naturals who if they are 8% that mean they are 8%  when you pinch their lower back there wil be no bounce there,,the back will be solid it wont poofed because there is very little water there,,,while you hav eto lsoe 5-15 lb of water ....they need to lose maybe 2-3 lb,,

homonized fellas especialy these days with hgh and insulina and the consistant usage of diuretic fuck condition very easily

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this is true although I didnt use a diuretic last show I was full of water no matter what

Ive been competeing for 10yrs

last jr usa I did I held hella water in my low back

so I diet longer or take a loop diurtetic??  what is the solution if someone like me wanted to win a state show>>
say I diet, do cardio, but around last week I carb up with slin(like the @ius a meal thing), take diuretic 9Loop) maintain water intake and I should rock up??

everytime I ask you something I think your mad about that cf,c thing if so let me know I can make it bettr if I need be

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 11:17:26 PM »
nop,, ddiet is not formulatic nothing,,we eat anything we like on hgh,,we really do ,,we dont sit and drink oikl and eat burgers with 30% fat all day but we eat lots of fish sushi,,lots of good foods,,icecream,,we dont eat as clean as you think ,,we put icecream in out tummy alot more thna you think,,

the reason as i said is injections and food,, when it comes to stage time,,due to all the products we are on its  very easy to fuck up....many try to short cut ways with diuretic ,,many inject hgh for too long prior to shows and then wanna drop all the water with diuretic and try different things that dont always work ,,many are just too old and body start holding to water no mattter what,, it is a game of water,,

i keep tellin you here that fellas walk around 6-7 % and think they are 10-11 % because they hold water due to the products use now days and the doses and the qualitys...

bodybuilder that train for many years doesnt hold much fat,,, he hold much more water....the ones who actualy hold fat are the true naturals who if they are 8% that mean they are 8%  when you pinch their lower back there wil be no bounce there,,the back will be solid it wont poofed because there is very little water there,,,while you hav eto lsoe 5-15 lb of water ....they need to lose maybe 2-3 lb,,

homonized fellas especialy these days with hgh and insulina and the consistant usage of diuretic fuck condition very easily

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Ok so dropping the gh makes a major difference in quality of the look. My question GH15 would be how would one go about doing this assuming that you have multiple shows in the same month. Your postings have said to take it out anywhere from 14 days to 4 weeks depending on the brand but just wanted to get your opinion on this. A friend of mine will be doing the jr usa and insists on keeping it in despite the fact that the show is less than 3 weeks from now.

When is the best time to drop the gh out in order to be stage ready or do guys just go on stage with it still in their system

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 02:26:48 AM »
some take it all the way and count on diuretics,,,they know their body but still they fuck up,,even jason fucked up and he been at it for over 15 years in top competition... 3-4 weeks should be enough time to take 6-8 weeks even better,,it all depends on your knowing of diuretics and how much you rely on them,,it all depends on diet too

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 07:03:59 AM »
I'm leaving for LV on the 26th to party for 5 days. I'm stopping my GH today- hyge pin wheels. I don't get a lot of water issues off them so I think 3 weeks to dry out should be plenty. I also switched from tren cyclo to tren ace 5 days ago. I should end up bone dry and hard without relying too much on diuretics. my only concern is that I'm might lose the fullness and roundness I've become accustomed to on GH.
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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 01:59:33 PM »

this is true although I didnt use a diuretic last show I was full of water no matter what

Ive been competeing for 10yrs

last jr usa I did I held hella water in my low back

so I diet longer or take a loop diurtetic??  what is the solution if someone like me wanted to win a state show>>
say I diet, do cardio, but around last week I carb up with slin(like the @ius a meal thing), take diuretic 9Loop) maintain water intake and I should rock up??

everytime I ask you something I think your mad about that cf,c thing if so let me know I can make it bettr if I need be

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2011, 03:18:59 PM »

this is true although I didnt use a diuretic last show I was full of water no matter what

Ive been competeing for 10yrs

last jr usa I did I held hella water in my low back

so I diet longer or take a loop diurtetic??  what is the solution if someone like me wanted to win a state show>>
say I diet, do cardio, but around last week I carb up with slin(like the @ius a meal thing), take diuretic 9Loop) maintain water intake and I should rock up??

everytime I ask you something I think your mad about that cf,c thing if so let me know I can make it bettr if I need be

Well, you may not have been far off with cfc/rouge. Things have seem to have taken a turn for the worse again. 
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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2011, 04:39:57 PM »
Pretty sure peaking for a show has to do with luck and timing as much as anything.

Also not all pro's have a hard time peaking. Look at Dorian or Kevin or Shawn- all peaked time after time with no problem.

Think the issues are this- firstly, many pro's have no fucking clue what they are doing. They go to the gym decide to juice and a few months later it becomes clear they were meant for bbing.

They turn pro still not really knowing what the fuck they are doing. Everything seems to work for them.

As a pro suddenly you aren't a guy working a 9-5 and competing for fun, suddenly you need to be eating training and what have you like your life depended on it. And you always need to be bigger and dryer and leaner etc.

Suddenly said new pro realizes he needs to be kicking ass or he may lose contracts and become washed up. So, under stress, he figures the best thing is to listen to every fucking person who seems to have a clue. Many hire gurus.

Now you have a dilemma- working with people or taking advice from people who do not know your body (hell most pro's don't know their own body's to begin with) so it becomes trial and error.

So you have a pro trying to get bigger bigger bigger then he has a guy working with him hypothesizing what drugs will work best and what diet etc, suddenly it's showtime and the pro doesn't look so great. In comes desperate last minute measures. Said pro looks like crap onstage, misses his peak, suddenly he is 'WASHED UP' and once again freaks out.  Next thing you know he is boatloading everything he can get to get bigger and get some more hype for his next show, and the same shit happens as before.

However, now that said bber is taking all kinds of shit to get bigger quick, his body will now start responding differently to diet and trying to carb/sodium load and deplete and the guru will have no clue what to do. It's a mess.

Being a pro bodybuilder can easily become very frustrating and stressful, and just ONE bad show can literally break an entire career.

The hype in bbing is so much, guys are chewed up and spit out so quickly, any new pro realizes if he has some bad showings all anyone will say is "The guy was all hype! Told ya so! Hope he has a backup plan" and at the same time the next big thing is coming along and being hyped.

The reason old school bbers peaked so well is because they slowly ascended through the ranks and did lots of shows and learned their bodys very well. The body can be trained to peak time and time again (until age catches up with you) but the hit or miss shit you see going on today has most to do with guys not knowing their own bodys, taking advice from too many people, stress (never underestimate stress) and also the body changing as you escalate drug usage, duration of cycles, food consumption etc.

One thing I study closely in school is to take in and analyze a lot of information, being careful to never miss anything, before drawing a conclusion. Every new drug a guy takes he should study in depth and know exactly what will be happening in his body when he takes it. Then at the end of the day, he can sit down and figure out what is happening and why, and make adjustments. If more bbers did this, and took their careers a little more slowly instead of trying to hit it big all at once (think Trey Brewer for how NOT to handle a bodybuilding career) you would see more consistency and likely better competitors overall.


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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2011, 10:30:22 PM »
The body is constantly in a state of change and evolution. It never stays the same, as much as it strives for homeostasis and equilibrium.



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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2011, 10:35:09 PM »
Pretty sure peaking for a show has to do with luck and timing as much as anything.

Also not all pro's have a hard time peaking. Look at Dorian or Kevin or Shawn- all peaked time after time with no problem.

Think the issues are this- firstly, many pro's have no fucking clue what they are doing. They go to the gym decide to juice and a few months later it becomes clear they were meant for bbing.

They turn pro still not really knowing what the fuck they are doing. Everything seems to work for them.

As a pro suddenly you aren't a guy working a 9-5 and competing for fun, suddenly you need to be eating training and what have you like your life depended on it. And you always need to be bigger and dryer and leaner etc.

Suddenly said new pro realizes he needs to be kicking ass or he may lose contracts and become washed up. So, under stress, he figures the best thing is to listen to every fucking person who seems to have a clue. Many hire gurus.

Now you have a dilemma- working with people or taking advice from people who do not know your body (hell most pro's don't know their own body's to begin with) so it becomes trial and error.

So you have a pro trying to get bigger bigger bigger then he has a guy working with him hypothesizing what drugs will work best and what diet etc, suddenly it's showtime and the pro doesn't look so great. In comes desperate last minute measures. Said pro looks like crap onstage, misses his peak, suddenly he is 'WASHED UP' and once again freaks out.  Next thing you know he is boatloading everything he can get to get bigger and get some more hype for his next show, and the same shit happens as before.

However, now that said bber is taking all kinds of shit to get bigger quick, his body will now start responding differently to diet and trying to carb/sodium load and deplete and the guru will have no clue what to do. It's a mess.

Being a pro bodybuilder can easily become very frustrating and stressful, and just ONE bad show can literally break an entire career.

The hype in bbing is so much, guys are chewed up and spit out so quickly, any new pro realizes if he has some bad showings all anyone will say is "The guy was all hype! Told ya so! Hope he has a backup plan" and at the same time the next big thing is coming along and being hyped.

The reason old school bbers peaked so well is because they slowly ascended through the ranks and did lots of shows and learned their bodys very well. The body can be trained to peak time and time again (until age catches up with you) but the hit or miss shit you see going on today has most to do with guys not knowing their own bodys, taking advice from too many people, stress (never underestimate stress) and also the body changing as you escalate drug usage, duration of cycles, food consumption etc.

One thing I study closely in school is to take in and analyze a lot of information, being careful to never miss anything, before drawing a conclusion. Every new drug a guy takes he should study in depth and know exactly what will be happening in his body when he takes it. Then at the end of the day, he can sit down and figure out what is happening and why, and make adjustments. If more bbers did this, and took their careers a little more slowly instead of trying to hit it big all at once (think Trey Brewer for how NOT to handle a bodybuilding career) you would see more consistency and likely better competitors overall.


Good post..

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2011, 11:39:34 PM »
The body is constantly in a state of change and evolution. It never stays the same, as much as it strives for homeostasis and equilibrium.




Damn you. What I was shooting for, if I could just manage to not ramble.

My physio teacher would love you! Hopefully your writing is neater as well.

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2011, 01:13:02 AM »
Well, you may not have been far off with cfc/rouge. Things have seem to have taken a turn for the worse again. 
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I called this operation out long ago and gh15 even rang in talking about how good a guy he was


now gh15 wont even acknowledge me and this cfc fck took off with a shit ton of money

wtf?  i could care less if cfc is a shitcan caiuse I calls em like I sees em but

god dont nneed to hate on me cause I know a bad operation when I deal with one


seriously gh15 have you ordered from them - complete disaster its like they have their 19yur old girlfrieds running the show

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2011, 01:14:49 AM »
the crew over in ab boarding is good,,the ja fella wouldnt let cfc go on with business as usual if he scrwed up people,,cfc is good and the wizard was good but had problem and kept low fire and kept everyone safe he was and is a good guy that got fucked with gh control delivery which indeed is stupid mistake ,, the problem the wiz had that only included him because he was smart enough fella can be confirmed by the canadian mod you fellas  made run away from this board ....

the wiz is out for now,,but he never scrwed up individuals ,,very honest fella,,the gh case and loss of money is a problem that will probably be fixed if its up to him,,but again its all in the dark ,,all i know is that he kept the community safe

now ...cfc he is long time around andthe gear is legit,, im surprized he didnt send you some free shit or half price because he would ,,its cheap change for him ,,he sent samples for others but then again i dont knwo the history here

all i knwo is this,,

there is tight mod supervising the sources on anabolic boarding,,they do very good job ,,a scam wouldnt last even a week when the ja fella is around there,,one of the greatest modes,,takes time to understand the way he thinks because he is very politicaly correct,,but when you lern the way he think you see he is good mod

in any case every one is human ,,every one do mistakes,,if i were you i would try talk to cfc and see if he can send you half order for the wiz stuff since the wiz is nto gonna be back probably for a while

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why is allll his banners down

why do people say they own them money -- esp at AB

his banner is gone of my board?

rougue labs is ghost

what gives and he aint protectin shit cause this is horseshit and no matter how good he cooks powder hes robbin people even if he idd get a 'bad gh delivery' I never got shit NOT EVEN A NOTICE WHAT HAPPENED LET ALONE A FEW BOTTLES OR even a greendot reimbursment


and Ive bneen in the game a long time, a loss is a lossk, but a scam is a scam

I'll let your gentlemen choose

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2011, 01:48:56 AM »
samir bannout struggled his whole career to peak, did it in 83, then couldnt duplicate it

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Re: Question for GH15
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2011, 06:21:15 AM »
samir bannout struggled his whole career to peak, did it in 83, then couldnt duplicate it

Perhaps he should have took 2 anavar tabs instead of 1 ;D
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