Tbomz claims as long as you eat meat, even if it's 10,000 calories a day, you

[dogma5914]

the only way to not get fat is if you are on either trenbolona or gh,,that is it!  fat burners such as efedrine etc ok too but not to the level of keeping lean muscle as trenbolona and hgh which actualy add lean muscle on you

the only product that make you lose weight,,i repeat make you lose weight YET! get you bigger as in people say you are bigger ! as in you gain pure lean muscle while losing weight ...is trenbolona,,for mutation purposes hgh should be included ofcourse

fish is much better than any meat for getting in condition ,,MUCH BETTER!

gh15 approved

Hold on so you're saying fish and chicken to get in condition but not the beef???

10,000 calories on a precontest diet???

Crazy....

[Raymon]

This is the very same guy who loves dildo in Arse is it not?We all know he loves meat esp man meat.

[gh15]

Yes kids, don't train to burn fat, just take trenbolona or gh.

that is EXACTLY correct,,
 if anyone ANYONE knows anything about bodybuild they would know...that!

first you attack body with gh for few months...you take the fat down no matter what you do every single week boom down in bodyfat and keep all muscle on you ....you go down from 13% to 8% in no time... less than 60 days on hgh....

then you attack body with trenbolona ace...and that 8% go down to 6% while muscle groW ,,GROW AT THE SAME TIME  you lieing sack of shit,, soooo as i said before the muscle that was 18 inch before hand....will be 18.5 inch after hand....while your weight will go down from 220lb to 200lb ....


do you get what im saying here my friend?


you started 220lb .....you lose weight down to 200lb your arms insted of SHRINKING DOWN TO 17.25 INCHES FROM 18....INSTED OF THIS COURSE ....YOUR ARMS GROW FROM 18 INCHES TO 18.5 INCHES! ! ! SAME FOR ANY OTHER MUSCLE GROUP THAT  BEEN WORKED ON OR EVEN MUSCLE GROUPS THAT WERE NOT BEEN WORKED ON SINCE THE DRUGS WORK ON THE LEAN MUSCLE OF THE BODY PERIOD EVEN WITH OUT TRAINING...TRAINING WILL STIMULATE EVEN HIGH DEGREE OF GROWTH!

so ,,mr joe trainer...

this is how we bodybuilders get down in bodyfat and get higher in muscle mass LEAN NOT BLOOFY MUSCLE MASS...

the usage of trenbolona ace closely integrated with the use of hgh,,, testosterona is there as base and doses changes because thickness is highly important to us bodybuilders...

no cardio needed,, no special diets needed,, no 10 thousand clean calories needed,, no balonie joe training needed,,

bodybuilding 101 for you mr joe..
sad thing that you know this !yet you chose to lie so you can make a buck out of so call training athletes,,

stop the balonie,,everything i say and write about bodybuild is 100% true ,,it is how we do it

if you think a bodybuild can look like a bodybuild with out trenbolona ace and hgh  now day you are severely mistaken ....true in the 50s you could look like s lean swimmer and you could get by by using some other compounds...but  you couldnt allow yourself to eat the shit we eat now and get to that condition with so much more size than what we had in that era...

190+ at 5% and up...5'10 and under..  in the modern era of bodybuilding is ONLY due to trenbolona and hgh ,,

and so its  absolitly clear...anything over 205-210lb competition weight is always ALWAYS on insulina and good doses of insulina


i really do not like the lies going on in bodybuild,,the reason i raised this generation with such  attitude as truth in your face is YOUR cursed generation who fed them lies over lies

gh15 approved

[gh15]

Hold on so you're saying fish and chicken to get in condition but not the beef???

10,000 calories on a precontest diet???

Crazy....

no! no bodybuioldr eat 10 thousand calories,,no bodybuilder eat even 5000 calories,, we eat between 4000-5000 calories,,the abolit biggest ones of us ,,im talking the 260 lb of lean muscle on stage ones! bodybuilder 200lb 6% eat much MUCH less

gh15 approved

[Van_Bilderass]

no! no bodybuioldr eat 10 thousand calories,,no bodybuilder eat even 5000 calories,, we eat between 4000-5000 calories,,the abolit biggest ones of us ,,im talking the 260 lb of lean muscle on stage ones! bodybuilder 200lb 6% eat much MUCH less

gh15 approved

Check out what Khan says at 08:20 

http://underground.nutrex.com/videos/Zack-Khan/RoadtoRecovery/blogEntry49.asp

He says he eats 4500-5000 cals and calls out the bullshitters

[Stavios]

Check out what Khan says at 08:20 

http://underground.nutrex.com/videos/Zack-Khan/RoadtoRecovery/blogEntry49.asp

He says he eats 4500-5000 cals and calls out the bullshitters

Well it can get up fast with the insulin shake

I drink 1k calories, 2 times a day for my 2 workouts

so that's 2k only during training, plus 800 cal at every meal or so.

this puts me at 4500 calories or so also, I would assume Khan who is twice my size would eat about 6500k but I guess I was wrong


I know Aceto has troy Alves bulking on like 3500 cals lol

[Coach is Back!]

that is EXACTLY correct,,
 if anyone ANYONE knows anything about bodybuild they would know...that!

first you attack body with gh for few months...you take the fat down no matter what you do every single week boom down in bodyfat and keep all muscle on you ....you go down from 13% to 8% in no time... less than 60 days on hgh....

then you attack body with trenbolona ace...and that 8% go down to 6% while muscle groW ,,GROW AT THE SAME TIME  you lieing sack of shit,, soooo as i said before the muscle that was 18 inch before hand....will be 18.5 inch after hand....while your weight will go down from 220lb to 200lb ....


do you get what im saying here my friend?


you started 220lb .....you lose weight down to 200lb your arms insted of SHRINKING DOWN TO 17.25 INCHES FROM 18....INSTED OF THIS COURSE ....YOUR ARMS GROW FROM 18 INCHES TO 18.5 INCHES! ! ! SAME FOR ANY OTHER MUSCLE GROUP THAT  BEEN WORKED ON OR EVEN MUSCLE GROUPS THAT WERE NOT BEEN WORKED ON SINCE THE DRUGS WORK ON THE LEAN MUSCLE OF THE BODY PERIOD EVEN WITH OUT TRAINING...TRAINING WILL STIMULATE EVEN HIGH DEGREE OF GROWTH!

so ,,mr joe trainer...

this is how we bodybuilders get down in bodyfat and get higher in muscle mass LEAN NOT BLOOFY MUSCLE MASS...

the usage of trenbolona ace closely integrated with the use of hgh,,, testosterona is there as base and doses changes because thickness is highly important to us bodybuilders...

no cardio needed,, no special diets needed,, no 10 thousand clean calories needed,, no balonie joe training needed,,

bodybuilding 101 for you mr joe..
sad thing that you know this !yet you chose to lie so you can make a buck out of so call training athletes,,

stop the balonie,,everything i say and write about bodybuild is 100% true ,,it is how we do it

if you think a bodybuild can look like a bodybuild with out trenbolona ace and hgh  now day you are severely mistaken ....true in the 50s you could look like s lean swimmer and you could get by by using some other compounds...but  you couldnt allow yourself to eat the shit we eat now and get to that condition with so much more size than what we had in that era...

190+ at 5% and up...5'10 and under..  in the modern era of bodybuilding is ONLY due to trenbolona and hgh ,,

and so its  absolitly clear...anything over 205-210lb competition weight is always ALWAYS on insulina and good doses of insulina


i really do not like the lies going on in bodybuild,,the reason i raised this generation with such  attitude as truth in your face is YOUR cursed generation who fed them lies over lies

gh15 approved

LOL...thats not bodybuilding 101, thats a joke. No wonder todays bodybuilders are lazy.

[tbombz]

Where does he say 10,000 Calories? You did, lol. He's saying a slight increase in calories over the maintenance level in the form of mostly animal protein won't get you as fat as eating high fat food of the same calorific value for a period of time.

i didnt say 10,000 calories. yoru right. but sure, why not?






deicide, try eating 5lbs of lean meat in one day using only fat and carb free seasonings/sauces. thats only going to get your about 400 grams of protein and say 2,000 calories. 

while im sure you might be able to eat all of it, youd be full, and you wouldnt want to eat that much meat on your own anyway.


but i bet you couldnt eat 10lbs of meat in one day.

and you sure as hell couldnt eat 20lbs of meat in a day. which is about what it owuld take for yout o get 10,000 calories from meat.








all that said..............


if you did end up stuffing your face with lets say 10 lbs of meat in one day.... first of all, only a % of that is going to be digested... and secondly you still wouldnt get fat even if it was all digested because its all complex amino acid chains that yeild low energy and take alot of energy to break down..

[Deicide]

i didnt say 10,000 calories. yoru right. but sure, why not?






deicide, try eating 5lbs of lean meat in one day using only fat and carb free seasonings/sauces. thats only going to get your about 400 grams of protein and say 2,000 calories. 

while im sure you might be able to eat all of it, youd be full, and you wouldnt want to eat that much meat on your own anyway.


but i bet you couldnt eat 10lbs of meat in one day.

and you sure as hell couldnt eat 20lbs of meat in a day. which is about what it owuld take for yout o get 10,000 calories from meat.








all that said..............


if you did end up stuffing your face with lets say 10 lbs of meat in one day.... first of all, only a % of that is going to be digested... and secondly you still wouldnt get fat even if it was all digested because its all complex amino acid chains that yeild low energy and take alot of energy to break down..

Awesome broscience!

[OTHstrong]

I'm going to have to agree with tbombs here, even though this is not even a feasible scenerio. Let's say you eat pure chicken breast all day long and nothing else then it would be impossible to gain fat from the chicken no matter how much chicken you eat (even it is 10 000 cal worth) but after 3 -4 days you would have severe problems with your digestive system and wouldn't be able to keep this up. It would feel like a pop can came out of your ass from the constapation.

[dseiler]

LOL...thats bodybuilding 2011, thats a joke. No wonder todays bodybuilders are lazy.

Fixed.

[tbombz]

excessive protein intake does inhibit fat loss however.

[Deicide]

excessive protein intake does inhibit fat loss however.

I've gotten fat by eating a caloric surplus of meat; there you go....

[tbombz]

I've gotten fat by eating a caloric surplus of meat; there you go....

    please, do tell..

[Deicide]

    please, do tell..

I tried an experiment once, years ago; ate only meat and fish for a month, with fiber tabs for dumps, not even eggs because they have a slight amount of carbs; anyway, all I ate was meat drenched in butter or fish with olive oil, tons of it. I put on fat, sure enough.

[tbombz]

all I ate was meat drenched in butter or fish with olive oil, tons of it.

 

[Deicide]

 

What is so funny? The purpose was to eat only fat and protein; butter is just fat, as is olive oil. Without carbs, according to you, it is impossible to get fat.

[tbombz]

What is so funny? The purpose was to eat only fat and protein; butter is just fat, as is olive oil. Without carbs, according to you, it is impossible to get fat.

re read the thread silly


only lean meats - no added fats or carbs of any kind

[Deicide]

re read the thread silly


only lean meats - no added fats or carbs of any kind

Right? Your rules change all the time...

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Check out what Khan says at 08:20 

http://underground.nutrex.com/videos/Zack-Khan/RoadtoRecovery/blogEntry49.asp

He says he eats 4500-5000 cals and calls out the bullshitters

Nice.... that makes me feel better. I eat 4000 pretty easily yet im not growing that well off of it hahaha.

[Deicide]

Nice.... that makes me feel better. I eat 4000 pretty easily yet im not growing that well off of it hahaha.

Up the dose!

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Well it can get up fast with the insulin shake

I drink 1k calories, 2 times a day for my 2 workouts

so that's 2k only during training, plus 800 cal at every meal or so.

this puts me at 4500 calories or so also, I would assume Khan who is twice my size would eat about 6500k but I guess I was wrong


I know Aceto has troy Alves bulking on like 3500 cals lol

I asked my trainer the other day if it was possible to have a bodybuilder ranging from 3%bf to 20%bf all eating 4000 calories and he said most definitely. Just makes you realize just like with anything else... after a certain point its a waste of money and you need to up the trianing intensity or just let time take its course.

[Stavios]

I asked my trainer the other day if it was possible to have a bodybuilder ranging from 3%bf to 20%bf all eating 4000 calories and he said most definitely. Just makes you realize just like with anything else... after a certain point its a waste of money and you need to up the trianing intensity or just let time take its course.

yeah it depends on a lot of things

I go by the scale, I think if I gain more than 1 lb a week it's definitly too much (after a rebound of course, water weight don't count)