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Benny B

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Coming from someone who has attended RP rallies, donated to Rand Paul, has every RP Book ever put out, who likes RP immensly, etc, the problem with RP is his delivery and packaging.   His son, Rand Paul, comes across way better and is far more accesible.   I am saying this from a marketing point of view, nothing else.   

I am on board with the Rand/Ron Paul ideology probably 75-85 percent time, but im just saying it as a matter of general ecelections being realistic.   

The average soccer mom pofs is not voting for rp, despite anything else.   I get it and accept it for what it is.  If we want a ron paul type in the WH, its going to be Rand, not Ron.   thats a fact.   Rand Paul IMHO has a lot of intangibles that his father does not.   
The problem for you...in addition to being PEA BRAINED...is that you are not a legit libertarian. As your political testing showed, you come up as a moron staunch republican. You'd vote for Mitt Romney or T-Paw over Paul Ron again in 2012, just as you did last time.
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Yeah, cause my primary vote in NY made a real difference.  lmfao. 

And romney was better than mclame. 

Benny B

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Obama has 43-47% no matter what - even if he raped a goat on live television.   People like Mal, Andre, Benny, Blacken, TA, Chad, Straw, et al would vote for Bama even if he raped a dog naked on TV while having as confederate flag rapped around his shoulders.   
And PEA BRAIN will vote for the repube candidate even if he/she admitted to murdering Natalie Holloway, Ponzi scheming hundreds of people out of millions of dollars, and going out on the campaign trail wearing full Nazi regalia and pledging undying loyalty to Al Qaeda.
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maybe not initially.

But if she puts the kids to bed and listens to the debates - and he looks her in the eye and says "I'm going to cut this spending EVERYTHING so your kids will HAVE a shitty quality of life", it might get thru to these moms.
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And PEA BRAIN will vote for the repube candidate even if he/she admitted to murdering Natalie Holloway, Ponzi scheming hundreds of people out of millions of dollars, and going out on the campaign trail wearing full Nazi regalia and pledging undying loyalty to Al Qaeda.

Over obama - yes.   

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Luntz is a manipulator and prides himself on this fact.

Ziggy can bitch and moan all he wants about Luntz's focus groups, but the proof in the pudding will be how Paul Ron does in the actual primaries. Somehow methinks he's not going to do so well, and Ziggy will be here blaming everyone else except his lousy candidate.
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Obama has 43-47% no matter what - even if he raped a goat on live television.   People like Mal, Andre, Benny, Blacken, TA, Chad, Straw, et al would vote for Bama even if he raped a dog naked on TV while having as confederate flag rapped around his shoulders.   
Nothing wrong with a confederate flag.

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Over obama - yes.   
OF COURSE, because you are a racist, mentally ill idiot. lol
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OF COURSE, because you are a racist, mentally ill idiot. lol

So are you, and thats why you would vote for obama no matter what he did.   

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Dems and repubs have an equal %, no matter what they do.  it's probably 45 and 45.

The middle 10% are the swing voters that determine every election.

BUT I think RP has an advantage that - aside from going at these middle 10% - he is going to be able to peel away from that obama 45% base.  There are 911 truthers who will campaign their asses off for a republican named RPaul.  You know this man.  Lots of them are dems.  

AND there are a shitload of people who are SO passionate about stopping the war that they marched for it.  They're libs - but their hero Obama is nothing more than Bush II when it comes to the war.  

If you're a single-issue voter on WAR, CTs, or ECONOMY, you're voting Ron Paul.

But, Paul doesn't have the social conservatives backing him. And he really doesn't have all the fiscal conservatives backing him, either. Without the former, FORGET IT; he ain't winning.


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Yeah, cause my primary vote in NY made a real difference.  lmfao. 

And romney was better than mclame. 
If you had principles were true to your "libertarian principles", you'd have voted for Paul Ron regardless. I guarantee you Ziggy, Deicide, and the rest of the Paul Ron devotees who post here would have voted for him if they lived and voted in NY.
Fake-ass, bandwagon-hopping PEA BRAIN.  :D

So are you, and thats why you would vote for obama no matter what he did.   
Nope, sorry. No racist here. Despite your intense desire to be like me, we are NOTHING alike.  ;) If Obama were draped in the Confederate flag, he would not be the person he has been up to this point and clearly would have lost his mind. So he would not get my vote.
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LMFAO.  Ha ha ha.   


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LMFAO.  Ha ha ha.   


Great post!  :-\
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Great post!  :-\


At this point - I would vote for madoff over obama if forced to. 

I would prefer West/Bachmann as my first choice - but it is what it is. 

Lt. Col. Alan West probably is my fav at this point.   Certified bad ass bar none.

If he ran, I would send my ass to florida to volunteer for him.       

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Lt. Col. Alan West probably is my fav at this point.   Certified bad ass bar none.

If he ran, I would send my ass to florida to volunteer for him.       

u can crash with me brother.

we can go to miami and do some deporting on our day off.

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u can crash with me brother.

we can go to miami and do some deporting on our day off.

Is my permit recognized down there? 

LMAO.   

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He'll get the left AND right-wing conspiracy theorists.

I don't see TPaw or Romney getting the anti-war or CT vote, do you ;)

The CT vote??  LOL! 

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The CT vote??  LOL! 

I couldn't expect you to understand this.

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I couldn't expect you to understand this.

Bwahahahahaha! :)

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Bwahahahahaha! :)

seriously - think about it.  There are CTers on the right who question obama's birth cert.  There are CTers on the left who question 911.  There are CTers on BOTh sides with Qs about anthrax/FBI connection, and a score of other issues.

These groups love RP.  If you think he wouldn't get a shitload of left-wing 911 skeptics, you're lying to yourself BB.

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seriously - think about it.  There are CTers on the right who question obama's birth cert.  There are CTers on the left who question 911.  There are CTers on BOTh sides with Qs about anthrax/FBI connection, and a score of other issues.

These groups love RP.  If you think he wouldn't get a shitload of left-wing 911 skeptics, you're lying to yourself BB.

You people who believe in these wild, ridiculous conspiracy theories make up a tiny percentage of the voting population.  You do not influence elections.  Nobody cares about you folks.  Even Ron Paul asked you nuts to leave him alone. 

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You people who believe in these wild, ridiculous conspiracy theories make up a tiny percentage of the voting population.  You do not influence elections.  Nobody cares about you folks.  Even Ron Paul asked you nuts to leave him alone. 

You "nuts"?

LMAO... you believe the earth is 6000 years old because the Bible told you so, and you call me a nut because I wonder how WTC7 fell?


Sheesh.

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Lmao.

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you have been to RPaul events, right?

Do you see him bringing over some people from the left who vote solely on anti-war or even CTs?

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You "nuts"?

LMAO... you believe the earth is 6000 years old because the Bible told you so, and you call me a nut because I wonder how WTC7 fell?


Sheesh.

Yes.  You = coo coo for cocoa puffs.   :)

Holograms use to fake plane crashes.  Missiles shot into the Pentagon.  Passengers kidnapped and murdered.  Bombs planted in the WTC by the federal government, with the cooperation of foreign terrorists.  It's like an elementary school kid came up this stuff.  Grow up already.  

Neither Ron Paul nor any other candidate needs your vote.  Heck I bet the majority of people who believe in this asinine stuff probably aren't even old enough to vote.   ::)