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Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« on: May 09, 2011, 11:25:28 PM »
 I don't see how Phil Heath could be considered better than Kai.

 Kai has more density, mass, harder look.

 Symettry and balance on both guys is a bit off.

 Overall, I think Kai shits on Phil.

 If Phil beats Kai this year, we will KNOW that bodybuilding contests are not judged fairly.

 We already know that actually....

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Re: Kai Greene s. Phil Heath
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 11:29:59 PM »
Im with ya on this one. 

No contest

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 11:52:24 PM »
Kai can look how a bodybuilder should look with the insane mass.  He just carries it well, his physique flows, he has lines, his transitions show all 3 dimensional looks of the muscle.  He is a classical bodybuilder with a shit ton more mass (Id like him to pose different though)

The other top tier guys just dont carry it well.  Jay is like a stone, he can barely twist, he is so rigid...  He cant transitions well, get on a knee, twist his waist and tilt at an angle while flexing his triceps, lower back and calves.  He has no flexibility.  He is a pure comparison type physique, get your mandatories down with a shit ton of mass and you can make it up there.  Same go's with Branch, shit physique, no flow.. Obviously I respect the hell out of each and one of these guys, they work their fucking ass off.  But they just have no flow, they don't carry the mass well.  Phil is a pump up balloon, his bellies are "pretty to look at" to a lot of fans and gym rats because they have tons of POP.  But he just doesnt have the frame to hold the mass well.  And he doesn't have the dense hard muscles, like I said, a pump up ballon!    

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 11:56:44 PM »
^^^agreed with all points...I said it before Phil has the Flex Wheeler Paradox...he "looks" better, but he wouldn't win against Dorain or Ronnie, and Kai is very Ronnie-sque...Phil has the coolness factor, but lacks the "Oh Shit" density that Kai has...all Phil has great arms, good quads, and detailed back...but that is not enough...


Kai vs Phil will be the Ronnie vs Flex of this era...

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2011, 12:02:31 AM »
I'd rather look like Phil any day, but in terms of physique development, overall mass and conditioning (when he arrives in shape), Kai is probably the better bodybuilder.

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 12:04:14 AM »
 Kai just needs to stop being so flaming, go back into the closet a little bit, then maybe they'll let him represent the ball sling show as #1.

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 05:36:55 AM »
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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 05:43:27 AM »
both of them are midgets!
like 5´8 ....
i would rather look like the tall skinny one.... Toney lol!
really if you are under 5´9 being above 240 just looks stupid.
but in today´s sad world it is called thick and being rewarded.

toney freeman, ed van amsterdam, gunter.... huge dudes,the mass looks good on them.
Branch, bloofy heath, even farmboy jay, looks silly in real life.
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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 06:11:15 AM »
both of them are midgets!
like 5´8 ....
i would rather look like the tall skinny one.... Toney lol!
really if you are under 5´9 being above 240 just looks stupid.
but in today´s sad world it is called thick and being rewarded.

toney freeman, ed van amsterdam, gunter.... huge dudes,the mass looks good on them.
Branch, bloofy heath, even farmboy jay, looks silly in real life.
Kai is 5'8, Phil is 5'9 and can (as of a few yrs ago, don't know about now) can dunk...his height wasn't a real set back when he played college ball.

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 06:14:04 AM »
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Jeez.....he has got to be the future Mr Olympia, he's the only one that has a similar freakiness and wow factor like Ronnie did  :o

And even with all that mass and density his waist is still looking good.

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 06:43:01 AM »
I don't see how Phil Heath could be considered better than Kai.

 Kai has more density, mass, harder look.

 Symettry and balance on both guys is a bit off.

 Overall, I think Kai shits on Phil.

 If Phil beats Kai this year, we will KNOW that bodybuilding contests are not judged fairly.

 We already know that actually....

phil is more consistant with his conditioning!.... so if kai is off even a little bit then phil wins.... simple!

im sure u realise this and just forgot to mention it in ur post!....im not being sarcastic btw

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2011, 07:04:31 AM »
I don't see how Phil Heath could be considered better than Kai.

 Kai has more density, mass, harder look.

 Symettry and balance on both guys is a bit off.

 Overall, I think Kai shits on Phil.

If Phil beats Kai this year, we will KNOW that bodybuilding contests are not judged fairly.

 We already know that actually....

If it happens, it will literally be the 1,000th time that a pre-contest "we will KNOW bbing isn't fair" scenario has been met. 

People seem to have a problem with knowing what they know.
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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2011, 07:10:38 AM »
If it happens, it will literally be the 1,000th time that a pre-contest "we will KNOW bbing isn't fair" scenario has been met. 

People seem to have a problem with knowing what they know.

 Yes. I understand that it's a business, and Mr. Olympia is chosen based on who will be most marketable and profittable.

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Re: Kai Greene vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 01:50:36 PM »
why can't his stomach be concave instead of convex