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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #200 on: May 11, 2011, 03:57:54 AM »
i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%

now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,

those numbers are..

5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....

6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat

5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat


those are the fellas who need be soluted  for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,

food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..

some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?

you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont  get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related


how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?

you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,

the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM

but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...

today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,

many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>??????

40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...

you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,

really shame

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here... let's give these dumb asses a little example...
after 4 years of training, dieting like a maniac, carrying my tupperware to college and eating cold chicken breasts, tuna, boiled potatoes... dieting for nearly 8 months to get ready... my best was 165 lbs at 8-10% fat (this was after 3 runs of prohormones (androsteindiol with 19-norandro for 6 weeks, M1T for 4 weeks 9 months before the comp and hitting 200 lbs with a 38 inch waist, superdrol 2 or 4 weeks out (i don't remember)) ... and i was only at that body weight because of the prohormones... i'm 5'7 btw...

the guy next to me is on the sauce btw... i know this because i'm very good friends with his dealer, who is my dealer also... and when i told him i think he's natural he laughed and said "if you only knew... I sold him the stuff to get ready"


the last pic is exactly 15 months later... 20 lbs heavier and leaner... My diet was bullshit that a trainer wrote up for me (don't want to mention his name cuz i don't need any drama here) and i was surprised how a diet like that would get me lean and big like this...
even the training... when he explained how i should train and how little cardio i should do is said "are you serious? that's it?"...

and now you know... idiots. (i only say that because i was one at one time)

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #201 on: May 11, 2011, 04:06:27 AM »
oh... and... 1 year after that contest, and 500 mg extra...
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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #202 on: May 11, 2011, 04:32:42 AM »
Some people just dont have the genetics.  I suggest they just Stick to staying healthy. 

As for GH's natural limit.  The "Rodriguez" guy is pretty close to the number he suggested of 5'10 180lbs at 8%.

Rodriguez is what, 5'9-10 175lbs at 4-5% come competition time? that's not that far from his own statement of the natural limit.

Army of one just comes off as a failed and bitter young lad.  Cheer up big guy, they have drugs that can help you deal with depression too.

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #203 on: May 11, 2011, 04:59:42 AM »
No disrespect, Buselmo  ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations.  After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive.  Even at 3% bodyfat.

What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs.  Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge.  Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat?  Nothing compared to modern squat technique.


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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #204 on: May 11, 2011, 05:01:15 AM »
Looking on track J-Rod!

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #205 on: May 11, 2011, 05:03:50 AM »
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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #206 on: May 11, 2011, 05:43:35 AM »
i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%

now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,

those numbers are..

5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....

6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat

5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat


those are the fellas who need be soluted  for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,

food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..

some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?

you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont  get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related


how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?

you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,

the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM

but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...

today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,

many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>??????

40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...

you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,

really shame

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #207 on: May 11, 2011, 05:45:54 AM »
Yep, naive as 4 year old, case closed. Only one way to look at this one boys. No worries GH15 we got this one for you, our fearless leader.

How does it feel going around knowing you call someone on the internet your "fearless" leader.  Which, I am sad to say is wrong in that "he" wont reveal who "he" is because he "fears" retribution from other bodybuilders  ::)  Look up the word fearless sometime..

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« Reply #208 on: May 11, 2011, 06:01:25 AM »
Some people just dont have the genetics.  I suggest they just Stick to staying healthy. 

As for GH's natural limit.  The "Rodriguez" guy is pretty close to the number he suggested of 5'10 180lbs at 8%.

Rodriguez is what, 5'9-10 175lbs at 4-5% come competition time? that's not that far from his own statement of the natural limit.

Army of one just comes off as a failed and bitter young lad.  Cheer up big guy, they have drugs that can help you deal with depression too.

But Jrod claims to have 'average' genetics?! Which is it? Either he has some of the most elite genetics in the world, or he not natural.
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« Reply #209 on: May 11, 2011, 06:06:14 AM »
No disrespect, Buselmo  ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations.  After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive.  Even at 3% bodyfat.

What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs. Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge.  Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat?  Nothing compared to modern squat technique.

Show me studies where 'nutrient timing science' adds additional muscle mass. Please provide peer reviewed studies....Mr. Broscience. ::)
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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #210 on: May 11, 2011, 06:11:15 AM »
No disrespect, Buselmo  ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations.  After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive.  Even at 3% bodyfat.

What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs.  Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge.  Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat?  Nothing compared to modern squat technique.
Strange.
Ever since I totally stopped using whey protein and focused on eating more food I'm making my best gains ever.  ???

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« Reply #211 on: May 11, 2011, 06:22:59 AM »
Strange.
Ever since I totally stopped using whey protein and focused on eating more food I'm making my best gains ever.  ???

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #212 on: May 11, 2011, 06:24:11 AM »
If you think that powders, exercise techniques or nutrient timing can add even 2 pounds of muscle then you are naive! Of course nobody really believes this. It doesn't really matter what natural does, as long as he shows effort and does this for a long time then he will get very near to what his limits are.

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« Reply #213 on: May 11, 2011, 06:28:46 AM »
If you think that powders, exercise techniques or nutrient timing can add even 2 pounds of muscle then you are naive! Of course nobody really believes this. It doesn't really matter what natural does, as long as he shows effort and does this for a long time then he will get very near to what his limits are.

Great Post!

Exactly and this guy is going on about 'nutrient timing science'... ::)
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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #214 on: May 11, 2011, 06:39:20 AM »
Drugs or not, Jrod has elite bodybuilding genetics.

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #215 on: May 11, 2011, 06:43:04 AM »
Drugs or not, Jrod has elite bodybuilding genetics.

This is also true...but he says he has 'average' genetics... ::)
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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #216 on: May 11, 2011, 06:53:51 AM »
he does have average genetic RESPOND TO HORMONES lol ,,his muscle shape is good but that doesnt make hi good genetics....genetics when it come to bodybuild = how you respond to legit hormones

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #217 on: May 11, 2011, 06:59:16 AM »
here... let's give these dumb asses a little example...
after 4 years of training, dieting like a maniac, carrying my tupperware to college and eating cold chicken breasts, tuna, boiled potatoes... dieting for nearly 8 months to get ready... my best was 165 lbs at 8-10% fat (this was after 3 runs of prohormones (androsteindiol with 19-norandro for 6 weeks, M1T for 4 weeks 9 months before the comp and hitting 200 lbs with a 38 inch waist, superdrol 2 or 4 weeks out (i don't remember)) ... and i was only at that body weight because of the prohormones... i'm 5'7 btw...

the guy next to me is on the sauce btw... i know this because i'm very good friends with his dealer, who is my dealer also... and when i told him i think he's natural he laughed and said "if you only knew... I sold him the stuff to get ready"


the last pic is exactly 15 months later... 20 lbs heavier and leaner... My diet was bullshit that a trainer wrote up for me (don't want to mention his name cuz i don't need any drama here) and i was surprised how a diet like that would get me lean and big like this...
even the training... when he explained how i should train and how little cardio i should do is said "are you serious? that's it?"...

and now you know... idiots. (i only say that because i was one at one time)

Here is some perspective for you.  Here are pics from my first show (trophy one).  The side triceps is from my second show a week later.  These were from 2005, I had been training for 4 years.  I weighed in at around 174 lbs. at the Contra Costa that year.

The next pic is from the offseason of 2007 (6 years of training).

Last pic is from 2001, right before I started lifting. 

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #218 on: May 11, 2011, 06:59:23 AM »
This is also true...but he says he has 'average' genetics... ::)

He has better shape than Zane, very elite BB genetics.  He knows this, just being sarcastic.  

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #219 on: May 11, 2011, 06:59:52 AM »
i thikn when van b read this all posting he will be sitting in sweden puking on his computer with some of the natural claims going on here,,really ,, 175lb 5'8 or 5'9 at 4% is not even CLOSELY ...not even remotely close to 5'10 180 8% lol what are you fellas nuts? the diff between 8 and 4 % is enormous  if its fat and not water,,

why do you thin you tell jrod he is bigger than stavio??? because the fella stand at very low bodyfat ....so yes when you are 175lb 4% you will look bigger than 195 lb 7%...especialy when you are few inches shorter...

generally speaking both fellas same size...but in picture rodrigez look bigger because he has less bodyfat....4-6% > 6-8%

the rule in bodybuild picture = the better condition you are ...the more impressive you will look...you can make a twink look like a chizeled pro if you got the right angle and no one around him....

condition > size when it come to pictures,, and infact condition > size when it comes to anything as logn as the 2 fellas carry good amount of muscle mass aka over 180...

i can  garentee you 180lb fella 5% look much better than 240lb fella 12% ...much much more impressive much muchhhh more like a bodybuilder and fitnes model and magazine look ...


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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #220 on: May 11, 2011, 07:02:21 AM »
Finally, this pic is from a few days ago, 9 weeks out.  I've worked my way up from the previous pics, to this, in 10 years.

Sporting some staggering 17 ish inch arms, 24-25 inch thighs, 31-32 inch waist, and maybe a 45 inch chest, all at a height of 5'9"!


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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #221 on: May 11, 2011, 07:02:32 AM »
Here is some perspective for you.  Here are pics from my first show (trophy one).  The side triceps is from my second show a week later.  These were from 2005, I had been training for 4 years.  I weighed in at around 174 lbs. at the Contra Costa that year.

The next pic is from the offseason of 2007 (6 years of training).

Last pic is from 2001, right before I started lifting. 

look at 2001 picture,,this is rodrigez natural ,,TRULY NATURAL,,look at the difference ,,it is highly significant,,small diff that was built with qualkity ...time in gym ,,quality hormones,,,and most importantly knowing what you do with those hormones,,you do know your body very well that i will give you

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #222 on: May 11, 2011, 07:04:45 AM »
Finally, this pic is from a few days ago, 9 weeks out.  I've worked my way up from the previous pics, to this, in 10 years.

Sporting some staggering 17 ish inch arms, 24-25 inch thighs, 31-32 inch waist, and maybe a 45 inch chest!



17 inch arm in this condition ....with your height ...it is very big,,it is bigger than groink arms from this board just to give rederence...not bigger but much much better,,

in your case the hormones are for quality not for quantity ,,,but as we both know with quality commmmmes

all together now

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #223 on: May 11, 2011, 07:07:14 AM »
Looking on track J-Rod!

...This thread's been entertaining ;D    

But responding to GH15 & his nuthuggers can be like pissing into the wind...Don't let their negativity distract you from the job ahead!  
 

Hey whats up!

Yeah, I wont let it distract me, I don't usually respond here, but I was just having some fun.  You're right though, I'm having trouble keeping up with his responses. 

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Re: J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe
« Reply #224 on: May 11, 2011, 07:07:45 AM »
lastly take attention to the fulness while at this bodyfat...pay attention to the veins on lower abdomen,,and more importantly to the vain that croses the delt intooo the chest...those type of vein do not come out UNLESS you are on hormones,,they never show up unless fellas are on hormones,,this type of vein ,,the section im talking about only come out at this size 175lb5'8 5'9 if the fella is on hormones aka enhanced and for quite some time

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