Author Topic: "All drugs" - What does this mean? (Read 17069 times)

Devon97 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:58:54 AM »

Meso, Adrain & Ygbodybuilder are NOT all drugs and have an "otherwordly" genetic base.

The_Punisher · « **Reply #51 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:02:26 AM »

if I see Mustafa in the streets, I would have never guessed he lifted weights in his lifetime........this picture of him is terrible.....it's evident that some former Pro stop lifting all together once they call it a career....

Evo · « **Reply #52 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:13:20 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on May 12, 2011, 02:37:26 AM

"not fat just bulkan brah, twink"

Good lord what the fuck is that....looks like 300lbs of shit in a 100lb bag!

gh15 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:21:23 AM »

Quote from: Evo on May 12, 2011, 09:13:20 AM

Good lord what the fuck is that....looks like 300lbs of shit in a 100lb bag!

its called insulina with every meal ,,gh andinsulina with every meal my friend,,it blows you from within yet its not real muscle....same exact duplica of phil heath ,,but i got news for you ...mustafa has little more foundation than phillip...

just wait till this fella heath get health problem or need to be out of hormones for a while...he will be a version of mustaf but to a worse degree

gh15 approved

Evo · « **Reply #54 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:35:41 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on May 12, 2011, 09:21:23 AM

its called insulina with every meal ,,gh andinsulina with every meal my friend,,it blows you from within yet its not real muscle....same exact duplica of phil heath ,,but i got news for you ...mustafa has little more foundation than phillip...

just wait till this fella heath get health problem or need to be out of hormones for a while...he will be a version of mustaf but to a worse degree

gh15 approved

I was referring to Xerxes pic of some fat ass...

But I agree with your 'bloofy' muscle created from untold insulin and GH dosing, I myself have witnessed friends coming off and shrinking to unrecognizable stamps.

Howard · « **Reply #55 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:58:03 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 11, 2011, 11:11:23 AM

The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Great post

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #56 on:** May 12, 2011, 11:01:17 AM »

Quote from: BayGBM on May 11, 2011, 10:26:57 AM

We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.

Tom Prince , Not only all drugs, but the best example that Karma Is a Bitch.
Watch him in BFTO 2001 impressive what the right drugs can do to a twink.

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #57 on:** May 12, 2011, 11:20:06 AM »

Quote from: BayGBM on May 11, 2011, 10:26:57 AM

We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.

You're right. All drugs and genes.
If it were all drugs it wouldn't be the same lineup of faces every year at the top shows. We would have thousands of Ronnie Colemans walking around.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #58 on:** May 12, 2011, 01:21:23 PM »

Quote from: no one on May 11, 2011, 07:10:22 PM

no shit. the guys screams insecurity.

I've never heard him say anything positive. He hates everyone.

G_Thang · « **Reply #59 on:** May 12, 2011, 01:32:30 PM »

Quote from: BayGBM on May 11, 2011, 01:43:30 PM

wtf? A good "base" does not win contests. It would not even get you in 10th place. You are basically speculating and guessing about what guys would look like without help and in most cases that is something we will never know.

look here fruit boy. shawn ray n his brother are meso. flex was ecto. we know what alex 23 was. put those body types on drugs for 10yrs, and remove the drugs. you tend to revert back to your pre-drug physique. in other words the only way fat alex goes ecto is if you give him a HIV infection = full blown AIDS = wasting = Alex 23 ectomorph vs endo.

pellius · « **Reply #60 on:** May 13, 2011, 03:30:53 AM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on May 11, 2011, 04:44:42 PM

Noob, read your username carefully. That is what you are: no one. STFU and talk respectfully to me, a senior member of the board who has been here for much longer than you and is simply far more important than your dumbass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Shut up, stupid!

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #61 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:45:35 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on May 13, 2011, 05:43:58 AM

Somatotypes are just a fancy way of saying categorizing people: fat, good genetics and skinny. Pseudoscience lingo but has prevailed for a long time amongst gym bro scientists.

Has prevailed??

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #62 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:53:07 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on May 13, 2011, 05:48:56 AM

Should I've written have instead? Forgive me English is barely my 3rd language.

Content, not Grammar.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #63 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:54:19 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on May 13, 2011, 05:43:58 AM

Somatotypes are just a fancy way of saying categorizing people: fat, good genetics and skinny. Pseudoscience lingo but has prevailed for a long time amongst gym bro scientists.

You are right. We all know nutrient intake or physical activity doesn't affect the body structure.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #64 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:59:06 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on May 13, 2011, 05:58:26 AM

I said among gym bro-scientists.

Never mind

lovemonkey · « **Reply #65 on:** May 13, 2011, 06:24:00 AM »

Quote from: brospore on May 13, 2011, 06:18:18 AM

What's your first and second language? Please do not tell me Twink and Cock.

Twink and Cock.

jaejonna · « **Reply #66 on:** May 13, 2011, 07:07:41 AM »

Who gives a shit...seriously..

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #67 on:** May 13, 2011, 09:47:01 AM »

Quote from: brospore on May 13, 2011, 08:08:01 AM

Ok, I prefer to ask a question, so what really is your 1st and 2nd language? That's impressive if English is your 3rd language.

Let me guess: Swedish is 2nd...

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #68 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:05:42 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 11, 2011, 10:56:29 AM

i'd say shawn ray has a good base. his brother isn't a user, and a pretty thick guy naturally. unfortunately, a guy like alex23 if he was a pro and came off, years later he'd still be thick.

i think prince and flex, esp, were ectomorphs before the drugs and just reverted back.

all based on body types. shawn was already a meso before he met john brown.

You didn't know Shawn's brother competed? He was a user. And furthermore, both of those bros in the pic are probably on HRT right there. Nothing natural about either of those guys.

Alex would look like Chris Farley if he got off his drugs.