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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2011, 07:43:20 AM »
When civilization collapses it may be the perfect time to finally start dieting.


Stay positive!!  :)

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2011, 07:45:26 AM »
If I stay in the US http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_120_A_name_E_Emergency%20Kits

If the US collapses, I will retreat to my ancestral home where we still own land.  8)

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2011, 07:47:55 AM »
Humans will adapt to "greener" technology well before your predicted apocalypse.

As far as what I'd do if there is one, major drug binge ftw!  :D

 Total BS.

 Look at the world. Capitalism is raging and money is top priority.Most people don't give a shit about the environment. Especially the rich fucks who run this world. They will just keep hogging the money until everything is gone.

 You seriously believe that? How do you think it's gonna happen? The environment is already pretty well destroyed and theeffects are slowly catching up.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2011, 07:47:57 AM »
If I stay in the US http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_120_A_name_E_Emergency%20Kits

If the US collapses, I will retreat to my ancestral home where we still own land.  8)

You have to get dirty hands and do repair stuff. No problem for me, but you don't really like that.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2011, 08:05:09 AM »
Yes I believe that. When we start to see real consequences policies will change, like when Japan recently decided to drop all nuclear power plants (50% of their energy consumption was from nuclear power) and now are investing in wind mills and solar power.

You see the trend in the automative industry as well, hybrid this hybrid that, Toyota being a frontrunner here sets a good example for the rest to catch up (remember Toyota is the worlds largest automobile producer!). My random prediction is that most of the western world will be driving hybrid/green cars in 30 years and the 2/3.world will catch up when those cars become cheap enough to mass produce. After this we have to deal with fueling planes with new technology.. This will probably happen, there are already signs that people are looking ahead.. for example: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38142746/ns/us_news-environment/t/solar-plane-completes-historic--hour-flight/

 LMAO.

 If you really study environmental science you'll see that all of that is a drop in the bucket.

 It makes about a 3% difference. In the big picture.

 And by the time these things are done on a widespread level the damage will already be done. Most people just don't give a shit about the environment. Their number 1 priority is to ake money and enjoy thier own life. That's the global culture right now.

 Unless capitalism is stopped, and people stop profitting off fucking up the environment. It will continue.
 
 Green tech won't help, as long as capitalism keeps going.

 Capitalism is a great system in most ways. the major problem with it, as it works now, is that it really fucks up the Earth.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2011, 08:07:19 AM »
2012 around the corner.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2011, 08:07:36 AM »
You say the rich this the rich that, well the rich also want to provide for their grandchildren, they are human even if they have money (unless you believe in reptilian aliens and planet nibiru blablabla)

There is money in green technology when gas is to expensive for the common man, and the rich / innovative will be there to seize the opportunity.

 Gasoline is only 1 issue.

 The death of the oceans is another. How you goona stop that?

 How about overpopulation? Droughts? The climate change that is already happening?

 200 species going extinct every day. 70% of earth rivers unfit to drink. 90% of wild salmon gone. 95% of old growth forests gone. Extemely dangerous technologies being developed. Worldwide economic instability....

 It's already happening man.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2011, 08:12:14 AM »
2012 around the corner.

 We aren't gonna see any major effects that soon.

 By 2020 we'll see it.

 Those icecaps are melting quick, sea levels are rising. Maldives already has evacuation plans for when most of their country in underwater.

 People aren't paying attention, don't know about it, and don't want to hear about it though. They'd rather be blissfully unaware.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2011, 08:13:33 AM »
I'll be hittin up the local booze stores 8)

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2011, 08:21:15 AM »
I'm not saying there wont be major problems like over population and drought, crops dieing etc etc...

Might lead to mass starvation in poor countries. But then again, poor countries are the ones with the highest birth rate so what can you do?
The rich countries already see low birth rates, whose to say we wont see a change in mentality in poor countries? For example: Muslim birthrates are very high, but how come Iran has a lower birth rate than the USA when 95% are muslim?

I don't think there will be any apocalypse soon, climate change is a slow process and we'll adapt. Your sensationalist semantics wont change my mind  :D.

 Listen to this guy. Derrick Jensen.
 
 The first 5 or 10 minutes of the movie is kind of shitty. But after abotu 10 minutes it gets very good.



 Some of the things he says are over the top. But most of it is right on. I agree with 95% of what he says.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2011, 08:25:41 AM »
I saved the link, will see it some other day =).
Smoke a bowl and watch it. Then get back to me. It might make you change your mind on some things.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2011, 08:57:06 AM »
I'll be hittin up the local booze stores 8)
Sounds like a outstanding idea right here load up.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2011, 09:02:48 AM »
Yes I believe that. When we start to see real consequences policies will change, like when Japan recently decided to drop all nuclear power plants (50% of their energy consumption was from nuclear power) and now are investing in wind mills and solar power.

You see the trend in the automative industry as well, hybrid this hybrid that, Toyota being a frontrunner here sets a good example for the rest to catch up (remember Toyota is the worlds largest automobile producer!). My random prediction is that most of the western world will be driving hybrid/green cars in 30 years and the 2/3.world will catch up when those cars become cheap enough to mass produce. After this we have to deal with fueling planes with new technology.. This will probably happen, there are already signs that people are looking ahead.. for example: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38142746/ns/us_news-environment/t/solar-plane-completes-historic--hour-flight/

Japan is not giving up nuclear power....

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2011, 09:08:42 AM »
Please elaborate on this theory.

It can be whatever technology that alters the usual dynamic of small upper class vs large lower class and that can somehow protect the rich and maybe even provide for them. A stupid example: radio controllable tanks. With these tanks, it would be almost impossible to rise against the owners, making them almost immune to any threats.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2011, 09:15:57 AM »
I'm sorry I checked my sources and I had it wrong, they abandoned their planes of expanding with 14 nuclear power plants and are instead going to go greener. At least its a start though..

 "We need to start from scratch. We need to make nuclear energy safer and do more to promote renewable energy."

He added: "I believe the government bears a major responsibility for having promoted nuclear energy as national policy. I apologise to the people for failing to prevent the nuclear accident." - Naoto Kan
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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2011, 09:20:59 AM »
My strategy is to get drunk. Seriously.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2011, 10:00:12 AM »
It can be whatever technology that alters the usual dynamic of small upper class vs large lower class and that can somehow protect the rich and maybe even provide for them. A stupid example: radio controllable tanks. With these tanks, it would be almost impossible to rise against the owners, making them almost immune to any threats.

Yes, I could see something like that being used for control over large protests in supposedly civilized countries, too.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2011, 10:00:33 AM »
No. It's because I read and I can see where the world is headed.

 Anyone who is well educated in environmental science, and the technologies that are coming in the future knows that it's VERY likely that a major catastrophe will happen.

 The environment is getting destroyed quickly right now. But you have to study and look hard to see it.

 Sea levels are rising.
 
 Then rainforests of South America and Africa are being destoryed quickly.

 Bio-diversity is dwindling quickly.

 Resources like oil, phosphate and other minerals are running low.

 Water shortages and major droughts are on the horizon.

 Climate change IS happening. Face it.

 Deadly viruses are being created in labs. If one escapes into the population, we're fucked.

 The list goes on and on. Mankind is in a place it's never been before. Most people choose to ignore these things and not thinkabout them though.
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Re: What's your strategy for when cicilization collapses?
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2011, 10:05:38 AM »
fuck your mom within an inch of her life, then let the zombies eat her.
Good idea. :D

I am going to buttFUK the zombie's moms after I eat them.

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Re: What's your strategy for when cicilization collapses?
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2011, 02:29:22 PM »
Good idea. :D

I am going to buttFUK the zombie's moms after I eat them.
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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2011, 02:43:37 PM »
I will retreat to my ancestral home where we still own land.  8)

You going to row a raft across the ocean?

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2011, 03:05:37 PM »
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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »
One drastic change might happen soon though, and that is when the rich class enslaves the poor class through technology. You never hear about this, but this is THE.VERY.REAL.THREAT that we are facing. Only way to stop this what I see is ultra communism, putting everyone on the same line. Not going to happen of course.

The real problem now is that we are figuring people when they reach a certain level of confort lose interest in life. This is the real problem, as more and more people are reaching the middle class status. They dont want to reproduce and all end on anti depressants.

Capitalism has always existed. The social class war is a joke. People from low or middle class deserve to be where they are because of social and familial design; they cant be somewhere else. Those who are on top have been spawned and designed to be on top, and had luck. Blackfagredanus is a communist retard.

And the problem isnt environment either. Earth has existed and will exist after us. The problem is that mankind, the human specie, has modified its environment too fast and has troubles to adapt to the changes it produced. Basically we re still the same animals we were 1 million years ago but in environments that make no sense to us anymore.


Again read this...

Natural selection and the elusiveness of happiness
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693419/pdf/15347525.pdf

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2011, 03:23:38 PM »
The real problem now is that we are figuring people when they reach a certain level of confort lose interest in life. This is the real problem, as more and more people are reaching the middle class status. They dont want to reproduce and all end on anti depressants.
Because they surround themselves with things, amterials, and obssess or what they have vs. others, this means they spend more time on that than actual family...Also, many spend less time outdoors, with nature, or actually knowing people, and having deep convos with them and themselves. This lack of introspective analysis creates a spiritual void, and makes people very ego-centric.

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Re: What's your strategy for when civilization collapses?
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2011, 03:24:29 PM »
If it collapses it collapses. Nothing lasts forever.