LGBT activist douses Newt Gingrich with rainbow glitter

[MCWAY]

Your question is a stupid one, because you are arguing that what was right in earlier periods must be right now.  The same argument could be made for slavery, forced marriage, and other formerly acceptable practices.

Apparently it ain't so stupid, because you apparently have the most difficult time answering it.

We've addressed marriage, slavery, and other issues on other threads (both here and on the Religious Forum). Now, the issue is homosexuality. Try ADDRESSING the question. If I wanted to see this much dancing, I'd break out the MC Hammer videos from the 90s.

Once again it's cherry picking.  Saying one thing is wrong because it's always been wrong, yet agreeing that somethings are wrong when they used to be right.  The same argument is made for homosexuality.  Just because it was wrong in the earlier periods, doesn't mean it is still wrong now.  The growing number of people calling for their right of marriage to be recognized is proof of this. 

I'm sure at one point a majority of people liked having slaves, didn't make it morally right even if it was acceptable in the bible.

Once again, you're ducking the issue. The slave issue has been (yet again) addressed elsewhere. YOU have been asked to explain why homosexuality is right and proper NOW, when it wasn't back then. Yet, it appears you lack the ability or the spine to do so.

If there's supposedly nothing with homosexuality now, explain the rationale for it. That's what's been asked of you at least three times.

[MCWAY]

Was this written by man or God? 

The author for 1 Corinthians is Paul (but I believe you know that already).

Who determines who enters heaven, man or God?

 

That would be the latter, God.

Of course, that would beg the question of why you suspect that God would allow unrepentant homosexuals into heaven, when through His commandments, prophets, and ministers, He has clearly spelled out that such is wrong.

[kcballer]

Apparently it ain't so stupid, because you apparently have the most difficult time answering it.

We've addressed marriage, slavery, and other issues on other threads (both here and on the Religious Forum). Now, the issue is homosexuality. Try ADDRESSING the question. If I wanted to see this much dancing, I'd break out the MC Hammer videos from the 90s.

Once again, you're ducking the issue. The slave issue has been (yet again) addressed elsewhere. YOU have been asked to explain why homosexuality is right and proper NOW, when it wasn't back then. Yet, it appears you lack the ability or the spine to do so.

If there's supposedly nothing with homosexuality now, explain the rationale for it. That's what's been asked of you at least three times.

I already answered it.  It all comes back to selective application.  YOUR only reason to be against it is because YOU view it as something immoral.  YOU back this up with a selective application of a passage in the bible. 

The question itself is a pointless one.  What makes anything right?  There is no absolute answer it's a philosophical question that you are trying to make into a black and white logical one. 

Homosexuality was never wrong to begin with, just like slavery was never right to begin with. 

[MCWAY]

I already answered it.  It all comes back to selective application.  YOUR only reason to be against it is because YOU view it as something immoral.  YOU back this up with a selective application of a passage in the bible.  

The question itself is a pointless one.  What makes anything right?  There is no absolute answer it's a philosophical question that you are trying to make into a black and white logical one.  

Homosexuality was never wrong to begin with, just like slavery was never right to begin with.  

You claim there's no absolute answer; yet you JUST GAVE an absolute answer: Homosexuality was never wrong to begin with, just like slavery was never right to begin with.

And this claim of yours is based on what? What makes you think homosexuality was "never wrong"?

Edit - My view of something being immoral doesn't always mesh with what Scripture says.

[kcballer]

You claim there's no absolute answer; yet you JUST GAVE an absolute answer: Homosexuality was never wrong to begin with, just like slavery was never right to begin with.

And this claim of yours is based on what? What makes you think homosexuality was "never wrong"?

Ah but is it absolute or is it opinion?  I am no more the definitive answer than you or the bible passage you selectively follow. 

My claim is based on my beliefs.  Just like yours. 

[MCWAY]

Ah but is it absolute or is it opinion?  I am no more the definitive answer than you or the bible passage you selectively follow. 

My claim is based on my beliefs.  Just like yours. 

And the basis of those beliefs would be...WHAT? You know what mine are. Let's see yours.

On what are these beliefs based and how does that correlate to homosexuality never being wrong?

[kcballer]

And the basis of those beliefs would be...WHAT? You know what mine are. Let's see yours.

On what are these beliefs based and how does that correlate to homosexuality never being wrong?

My own mind and experiences, just like everyone else. 

[Soul Crusher]

My own mind and experiences, just like everyone else. 

Yeah - cause you know better than 4000 years of wisdom.         

Typical leftist communist. 

[kcballer]

Yeah - cause you know better than 4000 years of wisdom.         

Typical leftist communist. 

Hahaha if that's not "group think" i don't know what is. 

[MCWAY]

My own mind and experiences, just like everyone else. 

Not exactly. My mind and experiences (and those of others) doesn't neccesarily agree with Scripture.

Take adultery. As you may have seen on the G&O thread, the poster boy for the sport of bodybuilding has been creeping (and has a child out of wedlock, as a result) and a number of folks are acting as if he just cured cancer.

In their minds and experiences, cheating on your wife is no big deal. But is that really the case?

[Soul Crusher]

Hahaha if that's not "group think" i don't know what is. 

Yeah, cause KC the doper and leftist communist/marxist knows better than 4000 years of wisdom.  got it.      

Sorry  Sheriff Dipshit - ill trust the judgment of 4000 years of humanity as opposed to your leftist drug induced psychosis any day.    

[LurkerNoMore]

The author for 1 Corinthians is Paul (but I believe you know that already).

 

That would be the latter, God.

Of course, that would beg the question of why you suspect that God would allow unrepentant homosexuals into heaven, when through His commandments, prophets, and ministers, He has clearly spelled out that such is wrong.

Exactly what I was getting at.  God never said that.  Paul claimed that it was what was determined to be Gods Word by his (Paul's) decision and belief.

Paul, nor anyone else, determines who gets into heaven.  That is God's judgement and choice.  For one man (or many) who are creatures of God to judge another one of God's creature unfit for heaven for something THEY (not God) wrote, is hypocrisy.