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Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« on: May 21, 2011, 12:30:11 PM »
He was "only' 228 lbs here. Even though Dorian lacked his trademark dryness here, I have never seen so much detail on Dorian. At the 1996 German Grand Prix, when he was at his best ever, he was carrying 40 lbs of muscle more and even drier, but even then he didn't have as much muscle definition as at the 1986 BNC. What do you guys think?



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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 12:45:33 PM »
Stimulate, don't annihilate.

Dorian was his own worst enemy.

Check out the results of his HIT nonsense, in comparison to the lightweight "Pump" workouts championed by Paul Dillet.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 12:48:03 PM »
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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 12:53:59 PM »
Stimulate, don't annihilate.

Dorian was his own worst enemy.

Check out the results of his HIT nonsense, in comparison to the lightweight "Pump" workouts championed by Paul Dillet.

The results speak for themselves. Train Smarter, Not Harder







  Uggggghhhhhh...yeah, that is why Dorian has six Sandows and Dillet has none. Great logic there.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 01:02:37 PM »
everyone always says dillet trains light... where do people get this idea?  not saying he didn't, just wondering why everyone thinks this?

only video i've ever seen of him lifting hes doing 5 plates a side on some hammer strength looking overhead / incline press.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 09:30:23 PM »
everyone always says dillet trains light... where do people get this idea?  not saying he didn't, just wondering why everyone thinks this?

only video i've ever seen of him lifting hes doing 5 plates a side on some hammer strength looking overhead / incline press.

  He trained incredibly light. Do you know what was his main pec exercise? Cable crossovers. Dillet did not have a very high level of development except for his arms and delts. He had great arms and delts due to his freakish genetics and that is it. Huge arms and delts, and he looked huge from the front because his clavicles are so wide. At everywhere else, he lacked muscular thickness and was very underdeveloped. His pecs, for instance, were very thin and the only reason they looked big is due to the big varicose veins which made them look much bigger than they actually were. The same for his back, which was bad even by NPC Nationals standards, let alone for a guy who competed at the premier professional show. When he turned to the sides, he looked like a fitness guy.

  Steroids can only work where you lay the work for them to operate...if you take steroids and have wide clavicles and do lots of side laterals but not heavy military barbell presses, your delts will become incredibly wide, but they will never look thick. Even for steroid users, muscle thickness comes from compound movements done with free barbells. The free bar demands you to mobilize a lot more muscle fibers to balance the weight, and compound movements recruit a lot of muscles at once allowing heavy weights which recruit far more motor units. All the thick bodybuilders(Ronnie, Doz, Stubbs, Branch Warren, Kai Green) base their workouts on compound movements with barbells and dumbbells.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 09:42:17 PM »
Stimulate, don't annihilate.

Dorian was his own worst enemy.

Check out the results of his HIT nonsense, in comparison to the lightweight "Pump" workouts championed by Paul Dillet.

The results speak for themselves. Train Smarter, Not Harder









Brilliiant logic, Dorian beat Paul in every contest. At least you have proved that mentally retarded people can still use a computer and post though.
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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 11:18:24 PM »
  Uggggghhhhhh...yeah, that is why Dorian has six Sandows and Dillet has none. Great logic there.

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 12:36:16 AM »
You can see Dorians chest cramping up, and him grabbing his chest probably from the pain, in that footage...

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 03:23:09 AM »
dorian was robbed...........

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 03:45:44 AM »
 He trained incredibly light. Do you know what was his main pec exercise? Cable crossovers. Dillet did not have a very high level of development except for his arms and delts. He had great arms and delts due to his freakish genetics and that is it. Huge arms and delts, and he looked huge from the front because his clavicles are so wide. At everywhere else, he lacked muscular thickness and was very underdeveloped. His pecs, for instance, were very thin and the only reason they looked big is due to the big varicose veins which made them look much bigger than they actually were. The same for his back, which was bad even by NPC Nationals standards, let alone for a guy who competed at the premier professional show. When he turned to the sides, he looked like a fitness guy.

  Steroids can only work where you lay the work for them to operate...if you take steroids and have wide clavicles and do lots of side laterals but not heavy military barbell presses, your delts will become incredibly wide, but they will never look thick. Even for steroid users, muscle thickness comes from compound movements done with free barbells. The free bar demands you to mobilize a lot more muscle fibers to balance the weight, and compound movements recruit a lot of muscles at once allowing heavy weights which recruit far more motor units. All the thick bodybuilders(Ronnie, Doz, Stubbs, Branch Warren, Kai Green) base their workouts on compound movements with barbells and dumbbells.

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what a BS post

dillet had the best legs a human being over 6'0 ever had

his pecs were huge too

he wasn tjust shoulders and arms

if he would have been able to work and pose his lats correctly he would have been winning mr O from 1993 to 2000 straight maintaining a small waist!!!

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2011, 03:47:07 AM »
He was "only' 228 lbs here. Even though Dorian lacked his trademark dryness here, I have never seen so much detail on Dorian. At the 1996 German Grand Prix, when he was at his best ever, he was carrying 40 lbs of muscle more and even drier, but even then he didn't have as much muscle definition as at the 1986 BNC. What do you guys think?



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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2011, 03:48:00 AM »
what a BS post

dillet had the best legs a human being over 6'0 ever had

his pecs were huge too

he wasn tjust shoulders and arms

if he would have been able to work and pose his lats correctly he would have been winning mr O from 1993 to 2000 straight maintaining a small waist!!!
No, he just was a bit to tight at times..

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 03:48:41 AM »
whos the guy in the center
is ist helmut riedmaier
Yea, sounds real British..

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2011, 03:57:35 AM »
what a BS post

dillet had the best legs a human being over 6'0 ever had

his pecs were huge too

he wasn tjust shoulders and arms

if he would have been able to work and pose his lats correctly he would have been winning mr O from 1993 to 2000 straight maintaining a small waist!!!
while i agree Dillet was a phenominal bodybuilder, to say he would have won sandows is ..... i do not think so.
first he was to tall... you will never see a mr olympia at 6´2...
i myself am tall , 6´2 as well, and the mass just does not look the same on a 6´2 tall guy.
he did have awsome legs, and arms and shoulders.... even chest while flat was impressive...
but! when you are tall there is usually this gap in the midsection... the midsection seems longer as with someone shorter.... giving the illusion of a very small waist , which he combined with wide shoulders. this gives the bodybuilder a very athletic appearence.
but also giving the appearence of being a bit lanky in some poses.... again compaired to shorter bb...
and judges prefere shorter and compact looking bb over the tall athletic ones....

being tall sucks in bodybuilding.....
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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2011, 04:14:42 AM »
while i agree Dillet was a phenominal bodybuilder, to say he would have won sandows is ..... i do not think so.
first he was to tall... you will never see a mr olympia at 6´2...
i myself am tall , 6´2 as well, and the mass just does not look the same on a 6´2 tall guy.
he did have awsome legs, and arms and shoulders.... even chest while flat was impressive...
but! when you are tall there is usually this gap in the midsection... the midsection seems longer as with someone shorter.... giving the illusion of a very small waist , which he combined with wide shoulders. this gives the bodybuilder a very athletic appearence.
but also giving the appearence of being a bit lanky in some poses.... again compaired to shorter bb...
and judges prefere shorter and compact looking bb over the tall athletic ones....

being tall sucks in bodybuilding.....

that?

arnold was 6'2 ;)

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2011, 04:28:36 AM »
that?

arnold was 6'2 ;)
with his special shoes on!  ;D
i meant modern day bodybuilding...
but i agree arnie is a legend....
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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2011, 04:58:03 AM »
with his special shoes on!  ;D
i meant modern day bodybuilding...
but i agree arnie is a legend....

arnie is alltime best

and beeing tall is great

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2011, 04:59:38 AM »
and yes

he had grat triceps  ;D

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2011, 08:12:04 AM »
Stimulate, don't annihilate.

Dorian was his own worst enemy.

Check out the results of his HIT nonsense, in comparison to the lightweight "Pump" workouts championed by Paul Dillet.

The results speak for themselves. Train Smarter, Not Harder


NO, train harder, not smarter. Anyone remember the BTFO where Paul sits on a leg extension machine on his phone? Epic laziness. That scene right there described Paul's philosophy. He could've been so much more.



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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2011, 08:24:57 AM »

Agreed.
Dillet coasted by using his genetics.
The man had the tools to be an unstoppable Multiple Mr O.
He just never had enough heart to, he didnt want to put in the work.
One of the best potentials in history. Just did his pussy workouts and let his genetics carry him.
Sad really.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2011, 08:29:51 AM »
Stimulate, don't annihilate.

Dorian was his own worst enemy.

Check out the results of his HIT nonsense, in comparison to the lightweight "Pump" workouts championed by Paul Dillet.

The results speak for themselves. Train Smarter, Not Harder







drugs also had nothing to do with it.

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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2011, 10:46:32 AM »
what a BS post

dillet had the best legs a human being over 6'0 ever had

his pecs were huge too

he wasn tjust shoulders and arms

if he would have been able to work and pose his lats correctly he would have been winning mr O from 1993 to 2000 straight maintaining a small waist!!!

  I disagree. Out of the top of my head I can name several bodybuilders with better quads: Jean-Pierre Fux, Nasser, Platz, Levrone, etc. Even lesser pros who were never worthy of competing in the big pros shows, like Paul DeMayo, had much better quads. And what about hams? They are also part of the legs and Dillet's hams sucked. Face it: Dillet only had incredible arms and delts and was very wide from the front, but he was a subpar bodybuilder who relied on his arms genetics and his genetics for big ugly veins to look much more developed than he was. What you don't understand is that a lot of bodybuilding is illusion. Dillet's pecs were extremely pathetic and they only looked big because they had huge veins crossing them. When he turned to the sides, there was nothing there! The same goes for his back: he had no thickness from the sides at all. Actually, when it comes to back he had neither thickness nor width. Why can't you understand this?

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Re: Dorian Yates - British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2011, 10:49:30 AM »
Dillet couldn't hold a pose if his life depended on it.....
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Re: Dorian At British National Championships 1986.
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2011, 10:54:21 AM »
 I disagree. Out of the top of my head I can name several bodybuilders with better quads: Jean-Pierre Fux, Nasser, Platz, Levrone, etc. Even lesser pros who were never worthy of competing in the big pros shows, like Paul DeMayo, had much better quads. And what about hams? They are also part of the legs and Dillet's hams sucked. Face it: Dillet only had incredible arms and delts and was very wide from the front, but he was a subpar bodybuilder who relied on his arms genetics and his genetics for big ugly veins to look much more developed than he was. What you don't understand is that a lot of bodybuilding is illusion. Dillet's pecs were extremely pathetic and they only looked big because they had huge veins crossing them. When he turned to the sides, there was nothing there! The same goes for his back: he had no thickness from the sides at all. Actually, when it comes to back he had neither thickness nor width. Why can't you understand this?

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oh boy - you have no clue

dillet hams suck?


can t discuss with you after this statement