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With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« on: May 22, 2011, 03:54:54 PM »
This isn't for me, but a friend.

Buddy has a marathon in 2 weeks- he is concerned about whether or not he should carb load, and if so how?

Also he says  "I guess what I'm most interested in, is the idea of doing a short intense workout 24-48 prior to the race which will trick my body into preparing for stress, thus making my body hold more carbs. Has anyone tried this or something similar and if so what were the results?"

So if anyone is a legit runner, I would appreciate some advice here, on carb loading (yay or nay and how if yay?) and also on his idea of intense work before the race etc etc.

Yes, runningmom, I am looking at you! And a few other knowledgable people...

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 04:01:18 PM »
It's his first marathon, it's all trial and error...Depends on how his body reacts to carbs..Me, if I eat a bunch of carbs for 2 or 3 days, I feel like shit. I went and do all protein 7 to 10 days before a half or full marathon. Day before I carb load...morning of the run coffee, banana and a bagel. Have him try and get up at least 90 min before he has to be at the race to make sure the carbs exit his body before the run (if you know what I mean) Everyone is different. I know people that do carb load 2 days before and run great.

PLEASE TELL him to start stretching the day before and at least 30 MIN before the run. Also, tell him NOT to drink unless absolute necessary at the water stations along the run. If he don't have to stop to pee, it's better for his first marathon.

After the run, eat bananas..Stretch right after. I actually set my alarm in the middle of the night after a big run to walk and stretch for 10 minutes..Keeps the soreness down the next day.

I hope he enjoys the marathon. I wish him all the best but he will have an amazing sense of accomplishment once he crosses the finish line.

No big intense workouts before the big run. Short, little runs, a few miles is fine. But I'm hoping he has ran at least 15 miles in one shot before the race or his legs will really be sore



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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 04:03:48 PM »
this isn't for me but for a friend


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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 04:17:03 PM »
Runningmom good advice but "try not to drink at the station" is outrages thats the only thing keeping me alive during my first marathon, who cares if you have to pee jump in a bush and pee. I asked 1000's for advice prior to my run and every expert runner there told me make sure a drink lots at the stations.
I eat 5lb of complex carbs 48 hours before my run all the way till the night before and by the half marathon my glycogen was already depleted, so i wish I would have eat more, but everybody is different.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 04:22:38 PM »
Runningmom good advice but "try not to drink at the station" is outrages thats the only thing keeping me alive during my first marathon, who cares if you have to pee jump in a bush and pee. I asked 1000's for advice prior to my run and every expert runner there told me make sure a drink lots at the stations.
I eat 5lb of complex carbs 48 hours before my run all the way till the night before and by the half marathon my glycogen was already depleted, so i wish I would have eat more, but everybody is different.

um well first of all, women don't get to just jump into bushes and pop a squat and pee or anything. If there is one or two porta potties, usually there is a line, except towards the end. First marathon I did, I finally had to tinkle at mile 17, I didn't even sit all the way down on the potty (well nasty for one thing in those porta potties, and I knew once I sat, I wasn't getting up)

I eat LOTS of carbs before a big run. It's quite amazing actually how much I can put away.

Half marathons I don't usually drink at any of the stations. Right now its and all this year the marathon and halfs have been in winter. So you don't really get dehydrated as much.

Also, Mike, tell your pal to load up on GU Gel, gives me energy.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 04:26:11 PM »
um well first of all, women don't get to just jump into bushes and pop a squat and pee or anything. If there is one or two porta potties, usually there is a line, except towards the end. First marathon I did, I finally had to tinkle at mile 17, I didn't even sit all the way down on the potty (well nasty for one thing in those porta potties, and I knew once I sat, I wasn't getting up)

I eat LOTS of carbs before a big run. It's quite amazing actually how much I can put away.

Half marathons I don't usually drink at any of the stations. Right now its and all this year the marathon and halfs have been in winter. So you don't really get dehydrated as much.

Also, Mike, tell your pal to load up on GU Gel, gives me energy.
lmao, my bad

Half marathon without drinking pretty impressive

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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 04:28:52 PM »
lmao, my bad

Half marathon without drinking pretty impressive

I just want to finish without injuring myself LOL..



Mike, also, I learned this lesson at mile 2 of my first marathon. If he doesn't need to get water, run at the opposite side of where the water stations are. Runners are messy, after they are done with the cup (s), they just throw them on the ground ::) ;D ;D ;D. The ground gets supper slick, I almost fell on my ass, so I learned that lesson quick

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2011, 04:29:26 PM »
Paula Radcliffe took a dump pretty much without breaking stride in a London Marathon... which she won handily, I believe.

um well first of all, women don't get to just jump into bushes and pop a squat and pee or anything. If there is one or two porta potties, usually there is a line, except towards the end. First marathon I did, I finally had to tinkle at mile 17, I didn't even sit all the way down on the potty (well nasty for one thing in those porta potties, and I knew once I sat, I wasn't getting up)

I eat LOTS of carbs before a big run. It's quite amazing actually how much I can put away.

Half marathons I don't usually drink at any of the stations. Right now its and all this year the marathon and halfs have been in winter. So you don't really get dehydrated as much.

Also, Mike, tell your pal to load up on GU Gel, gives me energy.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 04:30:48 PM »
Paula Radcliffe took a dump pretty much without breaking stride in a London Marathon... which she won handily, I believe.


well I'm never going to be an elite runner or win any type of race so I understand why she did it. Besides, I expel all my carbs before I run.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 08:41:28 PM »
um well first of all, women don't get to just jump into bushes and pop a squat and pee or anything.

try telling that to my mom  :-X

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 10:57:16 AM »
Make sure to take a good dump before the start. I have a really bad experience ignoring this..

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 11:00:06 AM »
Make sure to take a good dump before the start. I have a really bad experience ignoring this..

that's why I said make sure to be up 90 minutes before he has to be there..get rid of most of the carbs ya ate.. ;D

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 11:14:18 AM »
...

So if anyone is a legit runner, I would appreciate some advice here, on carb loading (yay or nay and how if yay?) and also on his idea of intense work before the race etc etc.

Yes, runningmom, I am looking at you! And a few other knowledgable people...

I did a marathon at a somewhat respectable time (3:15). I did investigate the carb-load route, but found that research indicated that it is not necessary. You need to carb up properly, but there is no need for carb depletion/ cycling imo. What I did, was to eat plenty of oats the evening before and on the day of the event. Further, I ate a large Snickers just before starting running :-). No problems... I actually passed many people at the end of the race.

But, at two weeks out he should know his body in this regard, as he should have had some very long exercise runs already.

NN

 

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2011, 11:34:26 AM »
Nice job NordicNerd..may i ask how tall you are..


super impressed with your time, that's awesome

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 11:50:35 AM »
Nice job NordicNerd..may i ask how tall you are..


super impressed with your time, that's awesome

Thank you! I'm 176 cm (5 9). Only did one marathon (Oslo, Norway) and probably never again. I run almost every day nowadays, but just shorter distances. Longer runs give me back problems. So, I'm not in your league, just did all I could to prepare for that one event, although I contemplate running half marathons.

NN


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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2011, 11:52:40 AM »
Thank you! I'm 176 cm (5 9). Only did one marathon (Oslo, Norway) and probably never again. I run almost every day nowadays, but just shorter distances. Longer runs give me back problems. So, I'm not in your league, just did all I could to prepare for that one event, although I contemplate running half marathons.

NN



halfs are easy if you ask me. I'm in no league. I'm no fast runner, just enjoy doing them.

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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2011, 12:20:28 PM »
Thank you! I'm 176 cm (5 9). Only did one marathon (Oslo, Norway) and probably never again. I run almost every day nowadays, but just shorter distances. Longer runs give me back problems. So, I'm not in your league, just did all I could to prepare for that one event, although I contemplate running half marathons.

NN


How do you combine running with heavy lifting? Or don't you ?

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2011, 12:31:00 PM »
halfs are easy if you ask me. I'm in no league. I'm no fast runner, just enjoy doing them.

Cough...2:14...cough.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 12:38:02 PM »
Cough...2:14...cough.

 ;D   ;D   ;D

hey you tall dipshit, I ran that time for 13.85 miles

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2011, 12:40:57 PM »
hey you tall dipshit, I ran that time for 13.85 miles

Were you underwater?


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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2011, 12:41:46 PM »

It could be a brown gel pack that burst open cause why would it run down the front of his leg like that.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2011, 12:43:39 PM »
Were you underwater?


>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
It could be a brown gel pack that burst open cause why would it run down the front of his leg like that.

no GU gel pack would burst like that.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2011, 12:44:58 PM »
I did a marathon at a somewhat respectable time (3:15). I did investigate the carb-load route, but found that research indicated that it is not necessary. You need to carb up properly, but there is no need for carb depletion/ cycling imo. What I did, was to eat plenty of oats the evening before and on the day of the event. Further, I ate a large Snickers just before starting running :-). No problems... I actually passed many people at the end of the race.

But, at two weeks out he should know his body in this regard, as he should have had some very long exercise runs already.

NN


3:15 is a very good marathon time. Kudos.