pm question answered

[gh15]

Do pro's change the needle to inject everytime? And do you guys use a separate needle to draw or is that just unnecessary? Alot of people i talk to use the same needle to inject and draw and they said they clean and re-use needles.

lol,, if we feel like it,,depend on if we have them at hand,,some do some don't,,you'll never get infection if you clean needle and syringe with alcohol ,,no matter even if you inject 200 times in a raw,, as long as clean the right way with alcohol 91 or 70 don't matter much,,you cant get infection if needle and syringe are cleaned with alcohol unless product is dirty,,if you get dirty product your place is not in bodybuild because your source is shit,,

needles are cheap and easy to buy its easier to just buy many ,,but if you lazy and for some reason don't want to buy ,,same needle is good too as long as CLEAN with alcohol and clean well,, that mean you need to have alcohol at all times and not just say you do it but ACTUALLY do it,,

now in regarding needle getting old and not as sharp,,,BALONIE,,needle can go same place 100s of times unless you are pussy ,,it always stay sharp enough if you have decent hand stability and know how to inject smooth,,all the fellas talk about needle getting the edge all crappy looking is because they forgot to tell you that needle head hit the wall in a speed of 200 miles per hour when they squeeze the shit out of the syringe while cleaning it and it ruined its head....then it can not be used anymore because it is not sharp enough ...otherwise needle can be used 100 times with no problem

i used same needle and syringe at the least 200 times and never infection ,,EVER!

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[pellius]

What about a sterile abcess when injecting repeatedly into the same place? There was this guy on another board who had been injecting into his traps for years. He thought he was getting specific site growth because his traps became so ridiculously huge. But he noticed that his traps felt more like a balloon instead of muscle. He ended up pulling 60cc of puss on each side. He said he could have pulled more if he wanted to.

So doesn't that mean all this time he was just injecting into a pool of puss all these years and the gear never got absorbed?

Strange what you guys put yourselves through.

[gh15]

What about a sterile abcess when injecting repeatedly into the same place? There was this guy on another board who had been injecting into his traps for years. He thought he was getting specific site growth because his traps became so ridiculously huge. But he noticed that his traps felt more like a balloon instead of muscle. He ended up pulling 60cc of puss on each side. He said he could have pulled more if he wanted to.

So doesn't that mean all this time he was just injecting into a pool of puss all these years and the gear never got absorbed?

Strange what you guys put yourselves through.

not quite,,

il explain in detail ,,


needle and syringe do not causes infection no matter what unless dirty ,,meaning if you clean them with alcohol you can inject anything with it that is not dirty and never get infection no matter what ,,you can inject into scar tissue it can be little painful but it will be absorbed as always instead of in 2 days in 4-5 days,,but will be absorbed fully ,,

what causes infections is either dirty aka needle that was not cleaned and was sitting in the gym beg for a month in dust and then injected with out cleaning it ...this also doesn't always cause infection aka abscess ,,repetitive usage of needle like that will cause abses very fast though,,,

the type of abscess you talk about done by addicts,,which is of course majority of bodybuild ,,  happen due to one and only one reason


the injection of WATERY SOLUTION MIXED WITH OILY SOLUTION ,,AND OR THE INJECTION OF WATERY SOLUTION RIGHT AFTER OILY SOLUTION INTO THE SAME SPOT/AREA,,AND OR CONTINUOUS INJECTION INTO THE SAME AREA OF BOTH WATER BASE SOLUTIONS AND OIL BASE SOLUTION ,,THIS! CAUSES ABSCESS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DRAINED AND IN WORSE CASES GET SURGERY IN HOSPITAL AND OPEN FROM THE INSIDE OUT AND ALSO LET CURE THIS WAY ,,OF COURSE SURGERY IS USUALLY DONE WHEN THE SITUATION IS DRASTIC AKA GREG VALENTINO  IT DOES WHEN THE SO CALL BODYBUILD IS REALLY REALLY OUT OF CONTROL AND JUST HAVE NO CARE ANYMORE AND JUST INJECT MANY MANY CCS EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS OVER MONTHS ,,AND DOES IT WITH OUT CARE FOR OIL ...WATER ....TYPE OF PRODUCT STERILITY ...ETC

MOST ABSCESS THAT ARE CAUSES BY WATER OIL MIXING ARE WHAT WE CALL ISOLATED ABSCESS AND THE BODY ISOLATE THEM WELL IF YOU GOT GOOD IMMUNE SYSTEM AND NOT HAVING  ADVANCED STAGES OF HIV OR OTHER IMMUNE DISEASES...WHEN THE BODY ISOLATE THOSE ABSCESS IT THEN NEED TO BE DRAIN AND NOT THE WAY GREG THE HOMO VALENTINO DID AND DOES IT...BUT IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE ULTRA SOUND ROOM BY A PROFESSIONAL DOC THAT CAN POKE IT RIGHT AND PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT ANTIBIOTICS,,

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[TRIX]

wouldnt it be safer to boil the needle then wipe it down with alcohol?

[OlDirTy]

now in regarding needle getting old and not as sharp,,,BALONIE

[flinstones1]

wouldnt it be safer to boil the needle then wipe it down with alcohol?

for fuck sake people get you some clean needles their like 12 cents a piece. I sware gh15's advice is gonna kill some kid. 

[gh15]

ballonie,,that needle was used 6 times while hitting it into the wall in the heat of the moment while fighting your girlfriend,,this is not how needle will look like after even 100 times of usage,,the needle will be sharp still and will be easily penetrated to the skin and then to muscle...even through scar tissue with no problems,, the problem will occur if you hit something very solid with the needle that will cause the degradation ,,needles can be used many times over and over if kept sterile as in alcohol cleaned,,

and in regarding boiling of needle,,no need to that may temper with the needle,, alcohol is best against bacteria and dirt,,alcohol will kill everything in its way that can cause abscesses ,,ANYTHING,,you just needed to use it,,then again just buy many needles its cheap and you wont have to clean nothing

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[gh15]

for fuck sake people get you some clean needles their like 12 cents a piece. I sware gh15's advice is gonna kill some kid. 

um no,,as said before many bodybuild use same needle many times for over a year same damn needle ,,you heard that right!

gh15 approved

[Bam-bam]

lol, nice propaganda

[Bam-bam]

not quite,,

il explain in detail ,,


needle and syringe do not causes infection no matter what unless dirty ,,meaning if you clean them with alcohol you can inject anything with it that is not dirty and never get infection no matter what ,,you can inject into scar tissue it can be little painful but it will be absorbed as always instead of in 2 days in 4-5 days,,but will be absorbed fully ,,

what causes infections is either dirty aka needle that was not cleaned and was sitting in the gym beg for a month in dust and then injected with out cleaning it ...this also doesn't always cause infection aka abscess ,,repetitive usage of needle like that will cause abses very fast though,,,

the type of abscess you talk about done by addicts,,which is of course majority of bodybuild ,,  happen due to one and only one reason


the injection of WATERY SOLUTION MIXED WITH OILY SOLUTION ,,AND OR THE INJECTION OF WATERY SOLUTION RIGHT AFTER OILY SOLUTION INTO THE SAME SPOT/AREA,,AND OR CONTINUOUS INJECTION INTO THE SAME AREA OF BOTH WATER BASE SOLUTIONS AND OIL BASE SOLUTION ,,THIS! CAUSES ABSCESS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DRAINED AND IN WORSE CASES GET SURGERY IN HOSPITAL AND OPEN FROM THE INSIDE OUT AND ALSO LET CURE THIS WAY ,,OF COURSE SURGERY IS USUALLY DONE WHEN THE SITUATION IS DRASTIC AKA GREG VALENTINO  IT DOES WHEN THE SO CALL BODYBUILD IS REALLY REALLY OUT OF CONTROL AND JUST HAVE NO CARE ANYMORE AND JUST INJECT MANY MANY CCS EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS OVER MONTHS ,,AND DOES IT WITH OUT CARE FOR OIL ...WATER ....TYPE OF PRODUCT STERILITY ...ETC

MOST ABSCESS THAT ARE CAUSES BY WATER OIL MIXING ARE WHAT WE CALL ISOLATED ABSCESS AND THE BODY ISOLATE THEM WELL IF YOU GOT GOOD IMMUNE SYSTEM AND NOT HAVING  ADVANCED STAGES OF HIV OR OTHER IMMUNE DISEASES...WHEN THE BODY ISOLATE THOSE ABSCESS IT THEN NEED TO BE DRAIN AND NOT THE WAY GREG THE HOMO VALENTINO DID AND DOES IT...BUT IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE ULTRA SOUND ROOM BY A PROFESSIONAL DOC THAT CAN POKE IT RIGHT AND PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT ANTIBIOTICS,,

gh15 approved

this should have its chapter on the bible, who is taking care of it?

[trapz101]

if its clean and still can poke though your skin,i don't see why you cannot use the same needle over&over again...

[smoothasf]

I never ever use the same one you may as well use a fresh Sharp one. It's like a razor it dull even though it still does the job. My skin is like leather, pig skin thick and can't even use the same pin I put through the rubber top. Needle will flex trying to go in. Not all of us have wafer thin 8% bodyfat growth hormona skin.

[Tito24]

haha it hurts like hell using the needle after a few times

[Brocty]

I dont care if alcohol will clean it without worries every time.  It's safest and BEST practice to change needle every use.  So those new to the game and reading this do so!

[Van_Bilderass]

What about a sterile abcess when injecting repeatedly into the same place? There was this guy on another board who had been injecting into his traps for years. He thought he was getting specific site growth because his traps became so ridiculously huge. But he noticed that his traps felt more like a balloon instead of muscle. He ended up pulling 60cc of puss on each side. He said he could have pulled more if he wanted to.

So doesn't that mean all this time he was just injecting into a pool of puss all these years and the gear never got absorbed?

Strange what you guys put yourselves through.

What I have seen is lumpy muscles from UG gear. These lumps stay for months (after being swollen like crazy for a few days). There's no pain, no abscess signs, etc but something happens and I think it's probably bad and damaging to the muscle in the long run. I suspect too high levels of solvents. Some UG "lab" may use 2% BA for example whereas with HG gear the max allowed in the EU for example is .9%. These lumps don't seem to appear with UG made with low solvents or HG gear from what I've seen. Some of these UG labs have been big operations with thousands and thousands of customers but apparently they don't know wtf they are doing.

[Stavios]

What I have seen is lumpy muscles from UG gear. These lumps stay for months (after being swollen like crazy for a few days). There's no pain, no abscess signs, etc but something happens and I think it's probably bad and damaging to the muscle in the long run. I suspect too high levels of solvents. Some UG "lab" may use 2% BA for example whereas with HG gear the max allowed in the EU for example is .9%. These lumps don't seem to appear with UG made with low solvents or HG gear from what I've seen. Some of these UG labs have been big operations with thousands and thousands of customers but apparently they don't know wtf they are doing.

it happens a lot, and it's more noticable when you shoot in smaller muscles

my triceps definitly have some lumps for UG gear


it does go away after a while tho

[gh15]

buy new damn needles its cheap ,,if you are lazy and dotn feel like just buy alcohol on you way home from gym ,,but never ever inject dirty syrnge ...it will get you infection and abcess,, always either buy new ones or again if exprience and lazy or no time or afraid or who knows what other excuses people have ...use alcohol ,,you wont get any infection if done correctly

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[Stavios]

buy new damn needles its cheap ,,if you are lazy and dotn feel like just buy alcohol on you way home from gym ,,but never ever inject dirty syrnge ...it will get you infection and abcess,, always either buy new ones or again if exprience and lazy or no time or afraid or who knows what other excuses people have ...use alcohol ,,you wont get any infection if done correctly

gh15 approved

I don't get any infections but when I shoot 3 cc of test in the triceps it gets swollen a bit 

[claymore]

for fuck sake people get you some clean needles their like 12 cents a piece. I sware gh15's advice is gonna kill some kid. 

"for fuck sake people get you some clean needles their like 12 cents a piece."....Agreed

[hangclean]

Why would anyone re-use a needle when you can buy 50 of them for 3 bucks?  LOL!!!!!  ridiculous.

[chunkramwell]

this should have its chapter on the bible, who is taking care of it?

Most all of the "pm question answered" posts are in there unless they're redundant. This topic has been covered before, but this post is more entertaining so we'll see.

[notsureifsrs]

What I have seen is lumpy muscles from UG gear. These lumps stay for months (after being swollen like crazy for a few days). There's no pain, no abscess signs, etc but something happens and I think it's probably bad and damaging to the muscle in the long run. I suspect too high levels of solvents. Some UG "lab" may use 2% BA for example whereas with HG gear the max allowed in the EU for example is .9%. These lumps don't seem to appear with UG made with low solvents or HG gear from what I've seen. Some of these UG labs have been big operations with thousands and thousands of customers but apparently they don't know wtf they are doing.

What about the drugs that aren't made HG ?
and even home brew it is almost impossible to get them under 2%BA

[EL Mariachi]

I heard if you want the full benefit of test you should shoot it in your dick and testikles

[pellius]

buy new damn needles its cheap ,,if you are lazy and dotn feel like just buy alcohol on you way home from gym ,,but never ever inject dirty syrnge ...it will get you infection and abcess,, always either buy new ones or again if exprience and lazy or no time or afraid or who knows what other excuses people have ...use alcohol ,,you wont get any infection if done correctly

gh15 approved

Yet, if I remember correctly from the bible, that you don't recommend reusing insulin needles which is much more common. My aunt is a diabetic and routinely reuses insulin pins.

[gh15]

everyone uses needles of their own ,,they just live it with alchool in it till next injection ,,then clean it few more times the syrnge and the needle from the inside,,,thats what it takes 3 min out of your life,,insulin needles with gh i would not use because they are too damn fragile and because hgh is holy ,,you want to treat it with bran new needle just for the money it cost to be safe you dont even slighly ruin it with alchohol ,,i dont believe in bacteriostatic water either,, only sterile that you do yourself boil the damn distilled water and then its sterile ,,use within 24-48 hours and you are fine,,

generaly speaking best thing is to just buy needles and use new ones,,but some dont want and they DONT have to,,this is exactly like the pct balonie i read on the boardings,,and the same shit i read on nolvadex that fellas get beofre they get the damn hormone! all bro science internet steroid board shit,,

take needle ,,make sure it is clean well,,put the oil into your ass ,,left cheek or right cheek if low bodyfat you can use 1 inch ...if higher body fat use the whole damn 1.5 inches ,,injet slow and smooth ,,penetrate your skin slow not fast,,not like the fuckin nurse do to you ,,,you need to do it slooooow to make out with your own skin until it accept the needle painless,,and it wil get used to it even if you use same needle 100 times,,

only thing that is no no is DO NOT FUCKIN SHARE NEEDLES WITH NO ONE,,THIS! WIL GET YOU HIV! THIS WIL GET YOU OTHER STDS...DONT EVER SHARE NEEDLES,,EVER NEVER NO MATTER EVEN IF IT IS YOUR BROTHER FROM BIRTH NEVER EVER SHARE NEEDLE NO MATTER HOW HIGH OR DDRUNK YOU ARE,,ALWAYS YOUR NEEDLE IS YOUR NEEDLE!  AND ONLY YOUR! NEEDLE

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