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because americans are happy when they have nachos and cheese and beer.

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Maybe it's a culture that has only spread itself so far geographically. When it comes to sports, the US tends to keep to itself, with games like baseball, football, and basketball - not many other countries play these. As a result, those sports have developed their own cultural following but only within the confines of America.

Also, the culture in America itself is of obtaining superiority, of developing physical excellence, and something like antisocial behaviour and hooliganism would only get in the way of these goals. It's the same in Asian countries like China and Japan - they have an attitude towards attaining superiority and pride and their cultures reflect that - Europe doesn't really have that attitude - they are maybe of the old colonial tribal ways of life where if they don't get what they want they throw their toys out the pram and start causing havoc.

Also, in the UK in particular, the attitudes towards how to drink alcohol responsibly have completely gone out the window over the years and our culture is such that people can't behave themselves when they've had a drink - there's no self-control. As a result, that transcends over to the sports we enjoy, and with soccer being the national game, it goes hand in hand with alcohol consumption and bad behaviour - add to that the old colonial tribalist attitudes and so hooliganism was born.

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Maybe it's a culture that has only spread itself so far geographically. When it comes to sports, the US tends to keep to itself, with games like baseball, football, and basketball - not many other countries play these. As a result, those sports have developed their own cultural following but only within the confines of America.
Also, the culture in America itself is of obtaining superiority, of developing physical excellence, and something like antisocial behaviour and hooliganism would only get in the way of these goals. It's the same in Asian countries like China and Japan - they have an attitude towards attaining superiority and pride and their cultures reflect that - Europe doesn't really have that attitude - they are maybe of the old colonial tribal ways of life where if they don't get what they want they throw their toys out the pram and start causing havoc.
Also, in the UK in particular, the attitudes towards how to drink alcohol responsibly have completely gone out the window over the years and our culture is such that people can't behave themselves when they've had a drink - there's no self-control. As a result, that transcends over to the sports we enjoy, and with soccer being the national game, it goes hand in hand with alcohol consumption and bad behaviour - add to that the old colonial tribalist attitudes and so hooliganism was born.
very good post, but a lot of these guys dont even drink

nor watch games, just an excuse to fight

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very good post, but a lot of these guys dont even drink

nor watch games, just an excuse to fight

Yep that's true - a lot of the old-school hooligans just used to use football as an excuse to have a punch-up and nothing more - again maybe it goes back to the cultural leanings of raw tribalism. I've never understood it myself.

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Yep that's true - a lot of the old-school hooligans just used to use football as an excuse to have a punch-up and nothing more - again maybe it goes back to the cultural leanings of raw tribalism. I've never understood it myself.
yes, to demarcate territory, obviously alcohol makes it worse

millwall vs hammers is a typical land division thing, the "supporters" dont even care bout the score!

its all over europe, recently when benfica played porto, before the game there was a bit of a stoning going on, it used to be bad in portugal, refs used to land up in hospital every weekend

obviously eastern europe is also affected by this

in south america, argentina also has a big problem

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ha,,, us sports dont even have propper teams, there franchises..

how could they follow a team only for it to move to another city the next season?


one of my workmates served time for hooliganism and all the lads i know involved in it are die hard supporters, i think its a myth when u say they dont even care about the score!

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i think in the usa men are too fat to get up from the stadium seat. the effort to drag themselves to the hotdog booth is more than enough.

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i think in the usa men are too fat to get up from the stadium seat. the effort to drag themselves to the hotdog booth is more than enough.

this.

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ha,,, us sports dont even have propper teams, there franchises..

how could they follow a team only for it to move to another city the next season?


one of my workmates served time for hooliganism and all the lads i know involved in it are die hard supporters, i think its a myth when u say they dont even care about the score!
so a team is not bound to a city?

thats weird

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i think in the usa men are too fat to get up from the stadium seat. the effort to drag themselves to the hotdog booth is more than enough.

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ha,,, us sports dont even have propper teams, there franchises..

how could they follow a team only for it to move to another city the next season?


one of my workmates served time for hooliganism and all the lads i know involved in it are die hard supporters, i think its a myth when u say they dont even care about the score!

Bet half of them are right wing as well...

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Bet half of them are right wing as well...

All of them, not only half.

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All of them, not only half.

Some might be EDL...they are just the confused ones...bless them.

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The soccer is just an excuse.  Young men in the USA don't need to use scheduled sporting events as an outlet for their anger.  In America, they can simply commit random violent crime.  Take a lesson, Europe!

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Those are great pictures.

That's what you get when human progress so far.....

I guess in 20 years you will only have two kind of people in the US, morbidly obese that can't move on their own without mechanical help and roided out bodybuilders.

Then the bodybuilders will team up with the aliens and create another USA, the USUA (United Steroid Users Association). 

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