Re: THE ISRAEL LOBBY & U.S. Foreign Policy

[Skip8282]

They WANTED us to start a way in Iraq.

Perhaps, I don't know.

[Largerthanlife]

They have helped with Iraq and Afghanistan, don't know about Libya.

yeah with what frozen mrp's bro, seriously they don't help in US/coalition efforts, commit troops, planes, vehicles, nothing, send them some food or some shit and say they helped, by the way the food was probably bought with money that the US gave them so it's not like they actually gave away anything, just re gifted.

[gh15]

israel is not a friend LOL, they would not help us if we got in war, they did not help us in iraq, they did not help in afghanistan, they did not help in libya, they did not help in vietnam, no friend at all, just moochers.

thats how stupid most americanos are,, isreal not only helped but actualy work very close with americana,,infact the israel shabaq work extremly close with fbi and cia,,the mossad also pretty much work very close with dna on things of urgent matter,,

the 2 countries are very very closely tightly related,, to a point israel and americnaa military work together on specific missions that involved hand and face to face killing,,

you dont know what you are tlking about,,ansolitly dont know what you are talking about,,the irsreal airforce engineers alwys always update the americano aircraft,,all of them ,,the americano aircraft dont go into fight with out israel inspection  unless its top secret but even the top secret is in many time shared with isreal,,not all but many times,,

the 2 countries are pretty much in the ass of eachother now day ,,it was nto like this in the early 80s...now day it is tight up the ass of each other,,back in the 80s it was close but still seperation ,,not it is HIGHLY correlated ,,in all military aspects,,

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[Largerthanlife]

thats how stupid most americanos are,, isreal not only helped but actualy work very close with americana,,infact the israel shabaq work extremly close with fbi and cia,,the mossad also pretty much work very close with dna on things of urgent matter,,

the 2 countries are very very closely tightly related,, to a point israel and americnaa military work together on specific missions that involved hand and face to face killing,,

you dont know what you are tlking about,,ansolitly dont know what you are talking about,,the irsreal airforce engineers alwys always update the americano aircraft,,all of them ,,the americano aircraft dont go into fight with out israel inspection  unless its top secret but even the top secret is in many time shared with isreal,,not all but many times,,

the 2 countries are pretty much in the ass of eachother now day ,,it was nto like this in the early 80s...now day it is tight up the ass of each other,,back in the 80s it was close but still seperation ,,not it is HIGHLY correlated ,,in all military aspects,,

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you just made this all up, stop making stuff up, thanks.

[Deicide]

you just made this all up, stop making stuff up, thanks.

A gay guy who hates jews...that's kind of original, I'll give you that.

[Skip8282]

yeah with what frozen mrp's bro, seriously they don't help in US/coalition efforts, commit troops, planes, vehicles, nothing, send them some food or some shit and say they helped, by the way the food was probably bought with money that the US gave them so it's not like they actually gave away anything, just re gifted.

They provide us with intelligence aid.

[George Whorewell]

Only morons, Muslims and people who hate America want the United States to sever ties with Israel; That explains most of the responses in this thread.

And FYI if we allowed Israel to fend for itself, the entire Arab world would be in flames with flags of David flying above most of the mosques in the region.

The only reason why the rest of the middle east is still standing is because we don't allow Israel to do what it is capable of against the arab muslim nazi filth surrounding it.

[Largerthanlife]

They provide us with intelligence aid.

no they did not, stop making stuff up.

Only morons, Muslims and people who hate America want the United States to sever ties with Israel; That explains most of the responses in this thread.

And FYI if we allowed Israel to fend for itself, the entire Arab world would be in flames with flags of David flying above most of the mosques in the region.

The only reason why the rest of the middle east is still standing is because we don't allow Israel to do what it is capable of against the arab muslim nazi filth surrounding it.

wrong, they would be back in the same position they were during ww2 in a few years.

[honest]

Only morons, Muslims and people who hate America want the United States to sever ties with Israel; That explains most of the responses in this thread.

And FYI if we allowed Israel to fend for itself, the entire Arab world would be in flames with flags of David flying above most of the mosques in the region.

The only reason why the rest of the middle east is still standing is because we don't allow Israel to do what it is capable of against the arab muslim nazi filth surrounding it.

I dont hate America< I love the country, but I go through life with my eyes wide open, no doubt the jews would push the arabs into the red sea and beyond, why wouldnt they, The americans have stood by and let them develop nuclear weapons something that they sanction and invade Arab nations to restarin and right fully so, they are far from level headed enough to have weapons like that, but could you blame Iran Syria for not getting them, look at North Korea, they sink a south Korea warship and The USA shows restrain,only because of their nuclear retailiation capacity. Iran and Syria would be mad not to keep trying to obtain a nuclear bomb the writing is on teh wall with the current CIA backed cilvilian issues in their countries destabilising their governments.
What i dont understand is havent we already learnt that its easier to do buisness with the like of Saddam rather than try to civilise people who cannot be policed in a civilised way, but thats where the American agenda jumps up and hits you in the face its not about regeime change its about Oil and influencing the arab league the holders of the worlds oil reserves. Im all for uncle Sam, but i dont look at it with my eyes shut. I see it for what it is.   

Every muslim nation that isnt ruled with an ironfist that we interfere with could backfire as the void is filled with radical islam and were doing the fighting for them. 

[Deicide]

no they did not, stop making stuff up.

wrong, they would be back in the same position they were during ww2 in a few years.

I am a very much neutral about all this but seriously, you must be a gimmik. You wish genocide on people? Are you insane?

[Largerthanlife]

I am a very much neutral about all this but seriously, you must be a gimmik. You wish genocide on people? Are you insane?

I never said that, I said they would be back in same position they were in ww2 if they lost all US funding and free weapons, the Arab nations would gang up on them and destroy them, either very soon or in the long run, they could shoot off a few nukes, but they would get nuked back by many countries and be annihilated.

And don't start off with the 6 day war crap, things are a lot different now. 

[George Whorewell]

no they did not, stop making stuff up.

wrong, they would be back in the same position they were during ww2 in a few years.

Actually no they wouldn't you fucking idiot. Pick up a book occasionally and read about the 6 days war. Israel actually gave back 90% of the land it won (outnumbered 600+ to 1) after destroying the surrounding terrorists states in an effort to produce peace with Egypt. So far so good until recently. If we took our leash off Israel the result would be genocide the other way. 

[George Whorewell]

I dont hate America< I love the country, but I go through life with my eyes wide open, no doubt the jews would push the arabs into the red sea and beyond, why wouldnt they, The americans have stood by and let them develop nuclear weapons something that they sanction and invade Arab nations to restarin and right fully so, they are far from level headed enough to have weapons like that, but could you blame Iran Syria for not getting them, look at North Korea, they sink a south Korea warship and The USA shows restrain,only because of their nuclear retailiation capacity. Iran and Syria would be mad not to keep trying to obtain a nuclear bomb the writing is on teh wall with the current CIA backed cilvilian issues in their countries destabilising their governments.
What i dont understand is havent we already learnt that its easier to do buisness with the like of Saddam rather than try to civilise people who cannot be policed in a civilised way, but thats where the American agenda jumps up and hits you in the face its not about regeime change its about Oil and influencing the arab league the holders of the worlds oil reserves. Im all for uncle Sam, but i dont look at it with my eyes shut. I see it for what it is.   

Every muslim nation that isnt ruled with an ironfist that we interfere with could backfire as the void is filled with radical islam and were doing the fighting for them. 

Agreed 100%, but what does that have to do with supporting Israel?

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Largerthanlife]

Actually no they wouldn't you fucking idiot. Pick up a book occasionally and read about the 6 days war. Israel actually gave back 90% of the land it won (outnumbered 600+ to 1) after destroying the surrounding terrorists states in an effort to produce peace with Egypt. So far so good until recently. If we took our leash off Israel the result would be genocide the other way. 

the times are different now my friend.

[Soul Crusher]

  

Yeah - today it would be a 6 minute war vs a 6 day war as Israel would stomp those fools into oblivion if the took the gloves off. 

[Firemuscle]

 Looks like The Coach decided not to respond. I'm not surprised.

[Ron]

thats how stupid most americanos are,, isreal not only helped but actualy work very close with americana,,infact the israel shabaq work extremly close with fbi and cia,,the mossad also pretty much work very close with dna on things of urgent matter,,

Very good - pretty much the only Democratic state in the Middle East, with high technical companies, and understand what democracy is.  Some of you wouldnt not beleive how advanced Israel is in its technology.

Only morons, Muslims and people who hate America want the United States to sever ties with Israel; That explains most of the responses in this thread. as the void is filled with radical islam

Yes, radical Islam is something that Europe is going to have to deal with very soon, and it is going to be much worse than they will think. They all apperciate Israel there.

america has no other friend beside isreal,,uk is in the friendship too,,

Oh, Israel has a ton of friends via countries.  Except for the ones ruled by Arabs or ones that rely on the Arab states for oil, money and more. 

You may not like it, but Israel is here to stay, and only is going to grow more and more, as radical Islam will affect more areas of the world.    The battle won't be in Israel vs. the Palestinians, but these radicals bringing their way of life to try to influence around the world.

After all, who needs women to have rights? Who needs women to have a job? Be seen in public?  Hey, complain in one of these countries about something, and you will be killed.  Yes, this is what we want out there.

You all should be very happy that Israel is being the scapegoat to cover all the problems out there with radical Islam.  Perhaps one day, when one of these guys comes and blows something dear to you, you will understand.

But hey, 9/11 didnt happen right... that was a conspiracy.... 

Must you be fed more bullshit instead of opening your eyes to the real world.

[Largerthanlife]

Very good - pretty much the only Democratic state in the Middle East, with high technical companies, and understand what democracy is.  Some of you wouldnt not beleive how advanced Israel is in its technology.
 

Yes, radical Islam is something that Europe is going to have to deal with very soon, and it is going to be much worse than they will think. They all apperciate Israel there.

Oh, Israel has a ton of friends via countries.  Except for the ones ruled by Arabs or ones that rely on the Arab states for oil, money and more. 

You may not like it, but Israel is here to stay, and only is going to grow more and more, as radical Islam will affect more areas of the world.    The battle won't be in Israel vs. the Palestinians, but these radicals bringing their way of life to try to influence around the world.

After all, who needs women to have rights? Who needs women to have a job? Be seen in public?  Hey, complain in one of these countries about something, and you will be killed.  Yes, this is what we want out there.

You all should be very happy that Israel is being the scapegoat to cover all the problems out there with radical Islam.  Perhaps one day, when one of these guys comes and blows something dear to you, you will understand.

But hey, 9/11 didnt happen right... that was a conspiracy.... 

Must you be fed more bullshit instead of opening your eyes to the real world.

Israel is not technologically advanced unless you mean by getting free weapons tech from US.  All they do is have a silicon valley so to speak and invite foreign companies to come and have all kinds of intensives so it can look like they are developing stuff, when really it is those foreign companies, but jews like to take credit for others peoples work all the time so no surprise.

[Soul Crusher]

Are you really that freaking stupid?   

[Largerthanlife]

You may not like it, but Israel is here to stay, and only is going to grow more and more, as radical Islam will affect more areas of the world.    The battle won't be in Israel vs. the Palestinians, but these radicals bringing their way of life to try to influence around the world.

Israel can be wiped off the map with a few strategic nuclear bombs, it's not that big  it will create a wasteland and people will have to move away from this "holy site".  Although I am sure the Jew's will whine enough to get another state drawn on the map for them to sit in and get free money and weapons.  Biggest whiners in the history of any race.  

[OzmO]

And who is gonna do that and deal the wrath of the rest of the world?

Unrealistic.

[Largerthanlife]

And who is gonna do that and deal the wrath of the rest of the world?

Unrealistic.

The rest of the world would be happy dude, most people hate jews, Israel in particular, period, except far right wing conservative christian American's.

[OzmO]

No, if some nation, other than China or Russia ( which they wouldn't) decided to launch nukes at israel they would get flattened in a heartbeat.  It will never happen and only Jews haters would rejoice.  BFD.

Hence, your assertion was very unrealistic.

[gh15]

Israel can be wiped off the map with a few strategic nuclear bombs, it's not that big  it will create a wasteland and people will have to move away from this "holy site".  Although I am sure the Jew's will whine enough to get another state drawn on the map for them to sit in and get free money and weapons.  Biggest whiners in the history of any race.  

isreal has more nuclear bombs than all other countries aside from americana and russia,,so no isral can nto be wiped ,,infact the israeli airforce has the best pilots so....i would consider israel more advanced airforce wise than russia ,,and pretty much on americana level,,but americana and israel is same thing,,same country

isreal is not using its power at full force ,,usualy they use it at 30% ,,if they used 50-60% they would wipe enemys within couple days,,
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