Gorilla Protein: Reason Why Gorillas Are So Huge Despite Eating Little Protein.

[JasonH]

1. FIRST 0F ALL WE ARE N0T G0RILLAS. G0RILLAS HAVE ENZYMES THAT HUMANS D0 N0T. G0RILLAS ARE VEGETERIANS AND CAN EAT RAW PLANTS AND DIGEST THEM. HUMANS CANN0T AND A BABY'S NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT THAN AN ADULTS. G0RILLAS ARE NATURALLY STR0NGER THAN HUMANS.ALS0 WHERE D0 Y0U GET THIS N0TI0N THAT BABIES GR0W 0N LITTLE PR0TEIN. 0BVI0USLY A BABY GET LESS PR0TEIN THAN AN ADULT BECAUSE THEY WEIGH LESS S0 THEY NEED LESS PR0TEIN IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR B0DY WEIGHT.

2. THE STUDY HAS ALREADY BEEN D0NE BY PETER LEM0N THE W0RLD'S LEADING RESEARCHER 0N PR0TEIN AND THE M0ST THE B0DY CAN SYNTHESIZE IS 0NE GRAM PER LB 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS. ALS0 AMIN0 ACIDS D0 INCREASE PR0TEIN SYNTHESIS.

Does your keyboard not have the letter "O" or something?

[suckmymuscle]

1. FIRST 0F ALL WE ARE N0T G0RILLAS. G0RILLAS HAVE ENZYMES THAT HUMANS D0 N0T. G0RILLAS ARE VEGETERIANS AND CAN EAT RAW PLANTS AND DIGEST THEM.

  This has nothing to do with gorillas' physiology. Growing Human babies increase body mass by as much as 10% per week on a diet that contain no more than 4% protein.

  And gorillas' physiology being different than ours doesen't mean anything because we are talking about the amount of protein needed to build new muscle tissue and not how much your body can absorb and process. Even if gorillas could absorb 100 times more protein than we can, if you required 100X amount of protein to build a new pound of muscle and the gorilla ate only X, then it wouldn't be able to increase it's muscle size.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

UMM BABIES WEIGH LIKE 1-2 LBS AFTER A C0UPLE M0NTHS.  A CUP 0F MILK HAS AB0UT 10 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN.

Assbruise.

[asbrus]

 This has nothing to do with gorillas' physiology. Growing Human babies increase body mass by as much as 10% per week on a diet that contain no more than 4% protein.

  And gorillas' physiology being different than ours doesen't mean anything because we are talking about the amount of protein needed to build new muscle tissue and not how much your body can absorb and process. Even if gorillas could absorb 100 times more protein than we can, if you required 100X amount of protein to build a new pound of muscle and the gorilla ate only X, then it wouldn't be able to increase it's muscle size.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

1.GR0WING HUMAN BABIES ARE N0T ADULTS. Y0U JUST SAID IT. GR0WING BABIES. HUMAN ADULTS ARE D0NE GR0WING S0 THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN BABIES. HUMAN ADULTS ARE N0 L0NGER PUTTING 0N MUSCLE MASS BY JUST EATING S0 Y0U ARE WR0NG THERE 0NCE AGAIN THAT 4 PERCENT 0F DAILY INTAKE IS NEEDED T0 PR0DUCE MUSCLE MASS.

2.Y0U ARE THE 0NE THAT MENTI0NED G0RRILAS EARLIER AS PR00F THAT HUMANS NEED LITTLE PR0TEIN AND PHYSI0L0GY IS IMP0RTANT BECAUSE DIFFERENT PHYSI0L0GY REQUIRES DIFFERENT PR0TEIN INTAKE. FIRST Y0U MENTI0N G0RRILAS PHYSI0L0GY BEING DIFFERENT D0SEN'T MATTER AND IN THE SAME SENTENCE Y0U MENTI0N H0W MUCH PR0TEIN IS NEEDED T0 BUILD MUSCLE TISSUES FAILING AGAIN T0 SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN G0RRILAS AND HUMANS.

3. Y0U ARE WR0NG AB0UT HUMAN ADULTS 0NLY NEEDING 1 PERCENT 0F THEIR INTAKE FR0M PR0TEIN T0 STIMULATE GR0WTH. STUDIES SH0W THAT IT TAKES 75 GRAMS A DAY T0 ST0P A DEFICIENCY IN Y0UR B0DY AS PR0TEIN AL0NG WITH FAT IS A NECCESSARY MACR0NUTRIENT F0R THE SKIN,HAIR,AND NAILS. CARB0HYDRATES ARE N0T A NEEDED MACR0NUTRIENT T0 LIVE.

4.I'M STARTING T0 THINK Y0U ARE TR0LLING BECAUSE N0 0NE CAN BE THIS STUPID S0 I'M G0NNA ST0P HERE.

[suckmymuscle]

  Stop typing in all caps. Seriously.

1.GR0WING HUMAN BABIES ARE N0T ADULTS. Y0U JUST SAID IT. GR0WING BABIES. HUMAN ADULTS ARE D0NE GR0WING S0 THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN BABIES.

  Ok, so how does a Human adult who, you agree with me, has stopped growing, need more protein than a growing baby? Obviously, a baby's protein needs are higher than an adult's and yet it does all it's growing on a diet of about 4% protein.

  And a gorilla's physiology is different, but this is not the issue here. I am talking about need. Gorillas have larger muscles than Humans because their genes dictate bigger muscles, but it wouldn't be able to build those huge muscles, even with it's genes, if it needed huge amounts of protein to build muscle and it ate it's diet of 1-4% protein. To use an analogy that your brain can understand, you cannot build a huge brick house with 4 bricks no matter how economical you are with the bricks.

SUCCKMYMUSCLE

[dyslexic]

I've been saying this for years, and I am living proof. Many old school bodybuilders (Bill Pearl) did NOT believe in high protein either. He also REFERENCED out his studies, and had the empirical data to prove it.


Cut the nuts off of a male Pitbull. A purebred is still gonna be a fucking muscle monster. Where is the "oh-so-important" Test being produced now?


Yes, it's still being produced, but in much SMALLER ammounts also (like protein)


It's all about the duckets. Too bad the muscle mags will never be able to come clean on this topic (just like most of their topics and ads)- but, without these sheeple sales, their mags would not exist and the homos wouldn't be able to stare at the homos.


Oh well, such is the irony and deceit of life.

[bic_staedtler]

You need protein to put on muscle.  End of story.  One gram per pound might be too much for some, but for most it'll do the trick.  Why are people talking about protein intake on getbig, anyway? 

[Wiggs]

I believe there was a thread I created last year about protein consumption of bodybuilders and whether it was too much.
Great thread Suckmuscle.

Can you imagine the amount of money generated from supplement companies that told us we need to up the protein over the past 20 years?....hmmmmmmmm....

[suckmymuscle]

You need protein to put on muscle.  End of story.

 

  Yes, but much less than what the muscle magazines claim. How come do mountain gorillas build 500 lbs of muscle on leaves and bark? This has been my point all along for those of you who can read.

SUCMYMUSCLE

[Wiggs]

Can you imagine the amount of profit generated from supplement companies that told us we need to up the protein over the past 20 years?....hmmmmmmmm.... Could you imagine if bodybuilders and athletes actually believed you didn't need as much?  There goes the bodybuilding industry...

I remember back in the mid to late 90s when the protein consumption for some NPC and IFBB bodybuilders where 500-600mg of protein per day was common...All kidney problems...

[Palpatine Q]

Can you imagine the amount of profit generated from supplement companies that told us we need to up the protein over the past 20 years?....hmmmmmmmm.... Could you imagine if bodybuilders and athletes actually believed you didn't need as much?  There goes the bodybuilding industry...

I remember back in the mid to late 90s when the protein consumption for some NPC and IFBB bodybuilders where 500-600mg of protein per day was common...All kidney problems...

True.....I don't eat any more protein than the average person, it's all fucking bullshit.

It's always blew my mind how stupid people were that they couldn't connect the dots that the people telling you to eat a shitload of protein were the people SELLING the protein...LOLOL

[asbrus]

  Yes, but much less than what the muscle magazines claim. How come do mountain gorillas build 500 lbs of muscle on leaves and bark? This has been my point all along for those of you who can read.

SUCMYMUSCLE

0H MAN I'M READING Y0UR P0ST IN DISBELIEF. W0W. I CAN'T BELIEVE S0ME0NE IS THIS CHILDISH AND STUPID. G0RILLAS ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F THEIR DIET. ARE Y0U SERI0USLY C0MPARING G0RILLAS T0 HUMANS T0 MAKE Y0UR P0INT 0N PR0TEIN INTAKE.
WHY CAN G0RILLAS DIGEST RAW PLANTS AND HUMANS CAN'T? G0RILLAS HAVE DIFFERENT ENZYMES THAN HUMANS. WHY ARE THE MACR0NUTRIET REQUIREMENTS F0R HUMANS AND G0RILLAS DIFFERENT?  WHY CAN'T A HUMAN LIVE 0FF LEAVES AND BARK? G0RILLAS ARE VEGETERIANS AND HUMANS ARE N0T. HUMANS CANN0T LIVE 0N WHAT A G0RILLA D0ES.

HUMANS /= G0RILLAS

[Wiggs]

True.....I don't eat any more protein than the average person, it's all fucking bullshit.

It's always blew my mind how stupid people were that they couldn't connect the dots that the people telling you to eat a shitload of protein were the people SELLING the protein...LOLOL

Even Doctors have been telling bodybuilders or people that like to try to be bodybuilders they don't need 1.5 - 2.0 gms of protein per lb of lean body weight or just bodyweight in general...I'll be honest my dumbass fell for it....I was just a kid trying to live the dream.

[asbrus]

Even Doctors have been telling bodybuilders or people that like to try to be bodybuilders they don't need 1.5 - 2.0 gms of protein per lb of lean body weight or just bodyweight in general...I'll be honest my dumbass fell for it....I was just a kid trying to live the dream.

YAH BUT THAT D0SEN'T MEAN Y0U NEED 4 PERCENT 0F PR0TEIN 0NLY.

[Wiggs]

YAH BUT THAT D0SEN'T MEAN Y0U NEED 4 PERCENT 0F PR0TEIN 0NLY.

I'm not insinuating we do just much less than what is reported in the mags and from the supplement companies...

[suckmymuscle]

0H MAN I'M READING Y0UR P0ST IN DISBELIEF. W0W. I CAN'T BELIEVE S0ME0NE IS THIS CHILDISH AND STUPID. G0RILLAS ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F THEIR DIET. ARE Y0U SERI0USLY C0MPARING G0RILLAS T0 HUMANS T0 MAKE Y0UR P0INT 0N PR0TEIN INTAKE.
WHY CAN G0RILLAS DIGEST RAW PLANTS AND HUMANS CAN'T? G0RILLAS HAVE DIFFERENT ENZYMES THAN HUMANS. WHY ARE THE MACR0NUTRIET REQUIREMENTS F0R HUMANS AND G0RILLAS DIFFERENT?  WHY CAN'T A HUMAN LIVE 0FF LEAVES AND BARK?

HUMANS /= G0RILLAS

  You are just angry because I made you feel dumb, so now you are calling me what I made you feel like. I understand. Since you are too dumb to understand, let me try to explain what I am trying to say. I am not talking about metabolism here, but the amount of protein needed to build muscles like the amount of bricks needed to build a house. Yes, gorillas can process and digest leaves which Humans can't, but the total amount of protein contained in all the plants that gorillas eat amounts to much, much less than what the muscle magazines claim you need to build muscle. If you need 500 grams of protein a day to build muscle but a gorilla only ingests 40 grams, then it wouldn't be able to build muscle no matter how efficient it's metabolism is at utilizing protein. Likewise, a growing baby wouldn't be able to build all that new organ, muscle and connective tissue on a diet of 3% protein no matter how efficient it's metabolism is. Understand? Probably not.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

YAH BUT THAT D0SEN'T MEAN Y0U NEED 4 PERCENT 0F PR0TEIN 0NLY.

  Yes it does, you moron. How do babies build all that new muscle on mother's milk only, which is about 4% protein? Now try to argue that an adult needs more protein than a growing baby, dummy.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Wiggs]

  Yes it does, you moron. How do babies build all that new muscle on mother's milk only, which is about 4% protein? Now try to argue that an adult needs more protein than a growing baby, dummy dumby.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

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[Dr Dutch]

The one gram per lbs is wrong:

1. Early European research on strength athletes recommend 1 gram per kilo lean bodyweight while not
    dieting.
2. This was falsely raised bij the US suppl industry to 1 gr/lbs bodyweight.
3. Cals are important. With enough cals 1 gr/kilo lean may be enough. This is very easy to do.
4. When dieting the protein should be raised to 2gr/lean kilo. Thats about 160gr for a 200lbs 10% BB.

So says Dr Dutch

[Super Natural]

Regardless one way I found to tell I was eating way too much protein is if my sweat started to smell like ammonia or if my gym clothes started reek like cat pee when left in the wash basket. This was a clear sign I was taking in excess protein and my body was breaking those amino acids down into the byproduct (Ammonia) This can also happen if you're on a High protein, low carb, low fat too low calorie diet, combined with not drinking enough water & too much long duration cardio. Your body is then catabolizing muscle tissue into amino acids for energy stripping off the nitrogen atom and processing it in the kidneys to produce urea and ammonia in your sweat. I also fell into the trap in the past of thinking I needed to eat 3g+ protein per pound mostly following juiced up guys diets but as mentioned this works for them due to their higher nitrogen retention. I got good results on those diets though but now I eat the standard 1-1,5g per pound which is plenty for Drug free guys (when training hard) IMO rather get the rest of your calories from good carbs, green veg and healthy fat. This way I feel way better in comparison with more energy. I think this is also due to keeping the acidosis from excess higher protein (acidic) type foods lower and the PH of the body lower.

[JasonH]

Regardless one way I found to tell I was eating way too much protein is if my sweat started to smell like ammonia or if my gym clothes started reek like cat pee when left in the wash basket. This was a clear sign I was taking in excess protein and my body was breaking those amino acids down into the byproduct (Ammonia) This can also happen if you're on a High protein, low carb, low fat too low calorie diet, combined with not drinking enough water & too much long duration cardio. Your body is then catabolizing muscle tissue into amino acids for energy stripping off the nitrogen atom and processing it in the kidneys to produce urea and ammonia in your sweat. I also fell into the trap in the past of thinking I needed to eat 3g+ protein per pound mostly following juiced up guys diets but as mentioned this works for them due to their higher nitrogen retention. I got good results on those diets though but now I eat the standard 1-1,5g per pound which is plenty for Drug free guys (when training hard) IMO rather get the rest of your calories from good carbs, green veg and healthy fat. This way I feel way better in comparison with more energy. I think this is also due to keeping the acidosis from excess higher protein (acidic) type foods lower and the PH of the body lower.

Good post - I can relate to the workout clothes stinking in the wash basket smell - that was back in the day when I was taking 400-500 grams of protein a day. These days I'm only on 1.5 grams per pound (roughly about 300-330 grams a day) and it works fine - I feel that any more than this is a waste if you're training without the use of gear.

[Dr Dutch]

Good post - I can relate to the workout clothes stinking in the wash basket smell - that was back in the day when I was taking 400-500 grams of protein a day. These days I'm only on 1.5 grams per pound (roughly about 300-330 grams a day) and it works fine - I feel that any more than this is a waste if you're training without the use of gear.

And we didn't even mentioned the infernal farting..

[DK II]

Bullshit about the babies.

Babies drink milk all day, 24 hours, app. every 2 hours.

I remember when my son was born i calculated how much protein he gets per kg of his bodyweight, and came out at about 10g of protein per kg of bodyweight.

Kids get way more than 2g per kg of protein easily every day, just one cup of milk gives about 10g of protein, for a 10kg child, and if you know kids and how much they eat, compared to an adult and their own bodyweight, it puts any bodybuilder to shame.

[Dr Dutch]

Bullshit about the babies.

Babies drink milk all day, 24 hours, app. every 2 hours.

I remember when my son was born i calculated how much protein he gets per kg of his bodyweight, and came out at about 10g of protein per kg of bodyweight.

Kids get way more than 2g per kg of protein easily every day, just one cup of milk gives about 10g of protein, for a 10kg child, and if you know kids and how much they eat, compared to an adult and their own bodyweight, it puts any bodybuilder to shame.

Mother's milk is way lower protein than cow's milk...

[Meso_z]

Mother's milk is way lower protein than cow's milk...

But its the highest quality of all. seriously.