Gorilla Protein: Reason Why Gorillas Are So Huge Despite Eating Little Protein.

[suckmymuscle]

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THIS IS PR00F Y0U'RE TR0LLING. HERE Y0U'RE C0MPARING A G0RILLAS NEEDS T0 A HUMAN. Y0U'RE IMPLYING THAT SINCE A G0RILLA BUILDS MUSCLE 0N VERY LITTLE PR0TEIN THEN IT MUST BE TRUE F0R HUMANS EVEN TH0UGH THEY ARE A C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT SPECIES. N0 0NE CAN BE THIS STUPID. A G0RILLA NEEDS LESS PR0TEIN BECAUSE THEY ARE A DIFFERENT SPECIES. JUST BECAUSE A G0RILLA BUILDS MUSCLE WITH N0 PR0TEIN D0SEN'T MEAN IT'S THE SAME F0R HUMANS.

  Lol idiot, gorillas being a different species is irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of protein needed to build muscles. Gorillas needing less protein for muscle building would only be relevant is gorillas's muscles were made of less protein than Human muscles. There is no evidence of that. In fact, gorillas's muscles probably have a greater amount of protein per volume of area given that their muscle fiber density is much greater than Humans.

Damn, I am dishing out ownings left and right on this moron tonight.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Nails]

  Human milk is fantastic. The problem is obtaining it, and also the "yuck" factor. It has the best amino acid profile for muscle building and general anabolic growth of all bodily tissue. It also contains tons of essential fatty acids which babies need for brain growth.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

so then female Gorilla milk would be even greater.... all you need now is go Dian Fossey and find a pack of gorillas to live with in the wild ans suck off their tit milk

[asbrus]

I'M N0T EVEN G0ING T0 RESP0ND T0 HIM ANYM0RE. HE REALLY BELIEVES A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS AND THEM BEING A DIFFERENT SPECIES IS IRRELEVANT. HE ALS0 THINKS BABIES AND HUMANS HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS. I STILL SAY HE'S TR0LLING. WHAT D0 Y0U EXPECT TH0UGH WITH A NAME LIKE SUCKMYMUSCLE. I REALLY D0N'T THINK Y0UR M0M BREASTFED Y0U.

[chaos]

Assbruise.

[suckmymuscle]

Humans can only create muscle growth through the process of hypertrophy. Hypertrophy  is a physiological response to resistance training which causes muscle cells grow larger in size when there is an increase in the number of sarcomeres present in the myofibril. However, there is a ceiling for all human beings in that regard ( even the ones on gear). Animals on the other hand can actually regenerate new muscle cells through a process known as hyperplasia.

Hope this helps.

  George, this is irrelevant insofar as the amount of protein needed to build new muscle tissue. It doesen't matter if muscle growth occurs via hypertrophy or hyperplasia. We are talking about the amount of protein needed to build muscle like the amount of bricks needed to build a house.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I'M N0T EVEN G0ING T0 RESP0ND T0 HIM ANYM0RE. HE REALLY BELIEVES A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS AND THEM BEING A DIFFERENT SPECIES IS IRRELEVANT. HE ALS0 THINKS BABIES AND HUMANS HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS. I STILL SAY HE'S TR0LLING. WHAT D0 Y0U EXPECT TH0UGH WITH A NAME LIKE SUCKMYMUSCLE. I REALLY D0N'T THINK Y0UR M0M BREASTFED Y0U.

  The really sad thing is that you don't even understand why you are wrong even after reading my explanation. And the reason why you won't reply anything is because you don't understand what is being discussed and have nothing intelligent to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[io856]

  The really sad thing is that you don't even understand why you are wrong even after reading my explanation. And the reason why you won't reply anything is because you don't understand what is being discussed and have nothing intelligent to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Come on sucky would seriously consider replying or even reading a post from some schmuck who types in ALL CAPS and O=0. I mean what the fuck is that? seriously...

[asbrus]

Come on sucky would seriously consider replying or even reading a post from some schmuck who types in ALL CAPS and O=0. I mean what the fuck is that? seriously...

I W0ULDN'T C0NSIDER REPLYING T0 A GUY WH0 THINKS THAT A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS. THIS IS S0ME0NE WH0 IS MENTALLY CHALLENGED. IF Y0U AGREE WITH HIM THEN Y0U'RE JUST AS INSANE. FR0M Y0UR P0ST IT L00KS LIKE Y0U D0.

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Assbruise.

[suckmymuscle]

Come on sucky would seriously consider replying or even reading a post from some schmuck who types in ALL CAPS and O=0. I mean what the fuck is that? seriously...

  You gota love guys who get completely owned and destroyed in a debate and yet think they are winning and that you are stupid because they are incapable of even understanding why they are wrong or even what is being argued about. Here is a quote from Chris Langan that expresses what I mean:

 "The fundamental problem with stupid people is that it takes an average IQ to realize that you have mediocre intelligence. Hence, the stupid person thinks he's as smart or smarter than the smart person, and therein lies their stupidity."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I W0ULDN'T C0NSIDER REPLYING T0 A GUY WH0 THINKS THAT A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN HAVE THE SAME PR0TEIN NEEDS. THIS IS S0ME0NE WH0 IS MENTALLY CHALLENGED.

  Yes, a 165 lbs Human needs less protein than a 500 lbs mountain gorilla, and an adult needs more protein than a baby who is increasing body mass by 20% a week.

  How can I argue with these nuggets of wisdom?

  "The fundamental problem with stupid people is that it takes an average IQ to realize that you have mediocre intelligence. Hence, the stupid person thinks he's as smart or smarter than the smart person, and therein lies their stupidity."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[io856]

I am left wondering where do these people come from?? 

[cephissus]

  Yes, a 165 lbs Human needs less protein than a 500 lbs mountain gorilla, and an adult needs more protein than a baby who is increasing body mass by 20% a week.

  How can I argue with these nuggets of wisdom?

  "The fundamental problem with stupid people is that it takes an average IQ to realize that you have mediocre intelligence. Hence, the stupid person thinks he's as smart or smarter than the smart person, and therein lies their stupidity."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Maybe he meant adults need more in terms of absolute quantity, not percentage?

[asbrus]

Maybe he meant adults need more in terms of absolute quantity, not percentage?

ACC0RDING T0 HIM HUMANS NEED JUST 1-4 PERCENT 0F PR0TEIN T0 SUSTAIN THEIR MUSCLE MASS AND BUILD MUSCLE. EVEN TH0UGH EVERY STUDY HAS SH0WN THAT MALES NEED AT LEAST 60-75 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN A DAY T0 ST0P MUSCLE WASTING. HE'S ALS0 TALKING 0UT 0F HIS ASS BECAUSE THERE ARE N0 STUDIES T0 BACK UP WHAT HE SAYS. IT'S BEY0ND INSANE T0 THINK THAT G0RILLAS AND HUMANS NEED THE SAME AM0UNT 0F PR0TEIN T0 BUILD MUSCLE AS G0RILLAS ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F DIET. 1-4 PERCENT W0ULD MEAN THAT A MALE C0NSUMING 2,000 CAL0RIES A DAY W0ULD 0NLY NEED 20 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN A DAY L0L. AN0REXIC PATIENTS EAT M0RE PR0TEIN THAN THAT. HE'S IMPLYING THAT WHAT H0LDS TRUE F0R G0RILLAS ALS0 H0LD TRUE F0R HUMANS. THE SCARY THING IS HE REALLY BELIEVES HUMANS AND G0RILLAS ARE EQUAL AND THEM BEING DIFFERENT SPECIES IS IRRELEVANT. HE FAILS T0 UNDERSTAND THAT GENETICS AND DNA PLAYS A R0LE 0N H0W BIG A SPECIES CAN GET REGARDLESS 0F DIET.

[suckmymuscle]

Maybe he meant adults need more in terms of absolute quantity, not percentage?

  We are discussing what is needed to build new muscle and not what is required to support your lean muscle mass. Obviously an adult needs more in absolute terms since he has a lot more muscle in absolute terms. The amount needed to build muscle doesen't vary. A pound of adult muscle contains the same amount of protein as a pound of baby muscle. The point is that you need very little protein above what is required to maintain nitrogen balance to build new muscle. Most studies suggest 0.25 to 0.3 grams of protein to maintain.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  IT'S BEY0ND INSANE T0 THINK THAT G0RILLAS AND HUMANS NEED THE SAME AM0UNT 0F PR0TEIN T0 BUILD MUSCLE AS G0RILLAS ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F DIET.

 
 And how do they get bigger than Humans, idiot? By building less muscle?  So basically, a 500 lbs gorilla needs less protein than a 180 lbs Human? Because this is what you are saying, dummy. Otherwise, the gorilla wouldn't be able to maintain it's huge muscle mass on leaves which contain very little protein. How can I argue with such colossal stupidity?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[asbrus]

 
 And how do they get bigger than Humans, idiot?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

THEIR GENETICS ARE DIFFERENT. IT HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH PR0TEIN INTAKE. THEY ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F DIET. THE SAME WAY THAT M0ST ANIMALS ARE BIGGER AND STR0NGER THAN HUMANS. Y0U KN0W DNA AND GENETICS.

[suckmymuscle]

THEIR GENETICS ARE DIFFERENT. IT HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH PR0TEIN INTAKE. THEY ARE NATURALLY BIGGER THAN HUMANS REGARDLESS 0F DIET. THE SAME WAY THAT M0ST ANIMALS ARE BIGGER AND STR0NGER THAN HUMANS. Y0U KN0W DNA AND GENETICS.

  I'll try to explain what I mean for the last time. Yes, gorillas are bigger than Humans because of genetics. Nevertheless, your genes do not change the amount of protein needed to build a pound of muscle. This is stable and does not vary. So gorillas wouldn't be able to build 500 lbs of muscle, with their genes or other, on their low protein diet if the amount of protein required to build and maintain their huge muscle mass were greater than what their diet provides. Do you understand now?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[asbrus]

 I'll try to explain what I mean for the last time. Yes, gorillas are bigger than Humans because of genetics. Nevertheless, your genes do not change the amount of protein needed to build a pound of muscle. This is stable and does not vary. So gorillas wouldn't be able to build 500 lbs of muscle, with their genes or other, on their low protein diet if the amount of protein required to build and maintain their huge muscle mass were greater than what their diet provides. Do you understand now?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

THE GENES 0F A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN ARE  DIFFERENT. G0RILLAS ARE N0T HUMANS. IN Y0UR P0ST Y0U SAY Y0UR GENES D0 N0T CHANGE AND THIS IS STABLE AND THEN G0 0N T0 USE G0RILLAS AS AN EXAMPLE. Y0U CANN0T C0MPARE THE TW0. I DISAGREE WITH Y0UR INSANE THE0RY THAT HUMANS NEED 4 PERCENT 0F DAILY PR0TEIN. IT IS BR0SCIENCE AT IT'S BEST BECAUSE EVERY STUDY DISAGREES WITH Y0U. A 2,000 CAL0RIE DIET THIS W0ULD MEAN 20 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN. ALS0 CARBS ARE N0T AN ESSENTIAL NUTRIENT T0 SUSTAIN LIFE BUT PR0TEIN AND FAT IS. 1 GRAM 0F PR0TEIN PER LB 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS IS 0PTIMAL F0R HEALTH. 50-75 IS T00 L0W F0R ADULTS.

[suckmymuscle]

THE GENES 0F A G0RILLA AND A HUMAN ARE  DIFFERENT. G0RILLAS ARE N0T HUMANS. IN Y0UR P0ST Y0U SAY Y0UR GENES D0 N0T CHANGE AND THIS IS STABLE AND THEN G0 0N T0 USE G0RILLAS AS AN EXAMPLE. Y0U CANN0T C0MPARE THE TW0. I DISAGREE WITH Y0UR INSANE THE0RY THAT HUMANS NEED 4 PERCENT 0F DAILY PR0TEIN. IT IS BR0SCIENCE AT IT'S BEST BECAUSE EVERY STUDY DISAGREES WITH Y0U. A 2,000 CAL0RIE DIET THIS W0ULD MEAN 20 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN. ALS0 CARBS ARE N0T AN ESSENTIAL NUTRIENT T0 SUSTAIN LIFE BUT PR0TEIN AND FAT IS. 1 GRAM 0F PR0TEIN PER LB 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS IS 0PTIMAL F0R HEALTH. 50-75 IS T00 L0W F0R ADULTS.

  I give up. You are obviously mentally incapble of understanding what I'm saying. You completely misread everything I wrote. I hope someone with better reading comprehension will explain to you what I meant because I really don't have the patience for it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Mr Nobody]

You just need a tic tac size piece of protien per 4 months to maintain 350+ shredded pounds with abbs. Bbuilding is easy

So your suggestion is upright rows and 10 grams of protein a day and Protan = jacked and tanned?

[bigbobs]

"Suckmymuscle" once claimed, and tried to use science and logic to support, that decline barbell bench press is a harder movement than incline lol.  He obviously does not have much or any lifting experience, so anything he says related to bodybuilding can be dismissed.

[suckmymuscle]

"Suckmymuscle" once claimed, and tried to use science and logic to support, that decline barbell bench press is a harder movement than incline lol.  He obviously does not have much or any lifting experience, so anything he says related to bodybuilding can be dismissed.

  And you tried to claim Nasser(0 Sandows) was a better bodybuilder than Dorian(6 Sandows). What do you know about bodybuilding?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[bigbobs]

  And you tried to claim Nasser(0 Sandows) was a better bodybuilder than Dorian(6 Sandows). What do you know about bodybuilding?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Your example is one of opinion, mine is one of fact.  So you're still insisting that decline bench press is harder than incline with a bar?  lol. 

Why not just actually go inside a gym for a change and try both exercises?

[suckmymuscle]

Your example is one of opinion, mine is one of fact.  So you're still insisting that decline bench press is harder than incline with a bar?  lol. 

  Right...it is my opinion that Dorian has 6 Sandows compared to Nasser's 0, huh?

  As for the decline bench press, it mobilizes the most pectoral muscle mass, and thus is more effective than the incline one. The incline one might be harder because it involves less the pecs and more the front delts and triceps which are smaller muscles, hence the same weight might feel heavier on the incline than on the decline. But the issue is effectiveness for pec development, and the decline is more effective.

Why not just actually go inside a gym for a change and try both exercises?

  Trust me, towel head: I have forgotten more kinesiology than you've ever known.

SUCKMYMUSCLE