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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2011, 09:29:07 PM »
good advice, ditch the alcohol and stick to upright rows and toast.

I am trying you guys...Over the last few months, I went deeper into the hole than I have ever been, but the last couple weeks I have been digging myself out of it. Nearly clean now, just had a little rum a few days ago, and have been lifting again. I feel great, and can not for the life of me figure out what is driving me to drink! Go to workout, feel amazing, happy! And when just when my guard is down, suddenly I am reaching for a bottle of rum while reading something online, or watching tv...I can not even begin to say why I drink...There is no good reason for it.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2011, 09:32:05 PM »
bodybuilding has always kept my drinking under control.  you can't be a bodybuilder and drink all the time lol. 

it's like dieting though.  first week or 2 are hard, then it gets easy.  do the same with drinking, grow some balls, get through that rough first patch and you'll be alright after that. 

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2011, 11:55:38 PM »
I am trying you guys...Over the last few months, I went deeper into the hole than I have ever been, but the last couple weeks I have been digging myself out of it. Nearly clean now, just had a little rum a few days ago, and have been lifting again. I feel great, and can not for the life of me figure out what is driving me to drink! Go to workout, feel amazing, happy! And when just when my guard is down, suddenly I am reaching for a bottle of rum while reading something online, or watching tv...I can not even begin to say why I drink...There is no good reason for it.
Depression and you`re self medicating bro.

Do positive shit with positive people and nip this shit in the bud................I`ve never seen anything good come from drinking and I drank and drugged for 33 years or so.


I don`t preach to people as a rule,but I do try to help others if possible.


See a therapist or hit a few AA meetings and focus on getting into the best shape of your life as one goal of many you can set to keep your mind/body occupied and in a positive place........oh yeah,get laid a lot too but don`t look for chicks in bars.  :)

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2011, 12:13:06 AM »
of when you drink to much the heart grows too big

i really enjoy drinking gives me ton of energy like im at a party. i get more done when i drink. but i know drinking allows for more of a turbulent blood flow, causing the heart to grow larger

whats yalls opinion

Drinking in moderation may actually be good for your heart. A drink or two, once or twice in a week helps many folks relax. You should counter dehydration by drinking plenty of water. As with anything, moderation is key. If you drink too much, it is bad for your health. People who have trouble controlling their drinking are better off finding some other method of relaxation.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2011, 12:15:47 AM »
Depression and you`re self medicating bro.

Do positive shit with positive people and nip this shit in the bud................I`ve never seen anything good come from drinking and I drank and drugged for 33 years or so.


I don`t preach to people as a rule,but I do try to help others if possible.


See a therapist or hit a few AA meetings and focus on getting into the best shape of your life as one goal of many you can set to keep your mind/body occupied and in a positive place........oh yeah,get laid a lot too but don`t look for chicks in bars.  :)

I'm trying.

I think a major setback has been watching my body fade over the years. I lived and breathed bbing since I was 14, the way I look now it not natural for me. At all.

Hence my return to getbig and my home forum.

We will see...Appreciate the well wishes.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2011, 12:25:41 AM »
I am trying you guys...Over the last few months, I went deeper into the hole than I have ever been, but the last couple weeks I have been digging myself out of it. Nearly clean now, just had a little rum a few days ago, and have been lifting again. I feel great, and can not for the life of me figure out what is driving me to drink! Go to workout, feel amazing, happy! And when just when my guard is down, suddenly I am reaching for a bottle of rum while reading something online, or watching tv...I can not even begin to say why I drink...There is no good reason for it.

Obviously, you feel like this is a problem and so it is for you. If you have any rum in the house now, pour it down the drain. Be the one in control, don't let the rum control you. Next time you reach for the rum it won't be their and rather then drive to the store, perhaps you might find something better to do and drink. The key is you have to want to do this. No one can do it for you.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2011, 12:36:14 AM »
I'm trying.

I think a major setback has been watching my body fade over the years. I lived and breathed bbing since I was 14, the way I look now it not natural for me. At all.

Hence my return to getbig and my home forum.

We will see...Appreciate the well wishes.

Be the best you can be. Don't be unrealistic. Unless you are ill, there is no reason you cannot look and feel 100% better than most guys regardless of your age. Believe me, I know. I am sixty-six and in many ways I look better now than I ever have (in terms of muscle mass and general fitness). Accept what you cannot change. For example, I am bald and my beard is white. Rather than worry about it, I rock it! And I am glad that bald is in style.

Depression is counterproductive to one's good health. Drinking actually makes folks more depressed....duh, alcohol is a depressant. When you feel depression coming on, go to the gym and workout. You'll forget all about being depressed and your body will appreciate it and reward you with better health and maybe a good pump.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2011, 12:45:14 AM »
Obviously, you feel like this is a problem and so it is for you. If you have any rum in the house now, pour it down the drain. Be the one in control, don't let the rum control you. Next time you reach for the rum it won't be their and rather then drive to the store, perhaps you might find something better to do and drink. The key is you have to want to do this. No one can do it for you.

I am totally aware of this. Sadly mental illness (from schizophrenia to bi-polar to depression, alcoholism etc) runs HARD in my family. I am fighting an uphill battle, and it was bodybuilding that kept me from it. That and God. Now I am on my own, and on my own I fell hard. However, getting back to my roots, and working hard at it.

I appreciate the well wishes, I really do.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2011, 01:27:02 AM »
Stay strong bro!!

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2011, 03:27:03 AM »
Alcohol Lowers Testosterone, Increases Estrogen
If you're a guy and you're STILL unsure whether to reduce or eliminate alcohol from your diet, here's yet another fact for you to ponder: alcohol lowers testosterone and increases estrogen, often bringing about gynecomastria (male breast enlargement) due to increased conversion of testosterone and other aromatizable androgens to estrogen.

It can also lead to testicular atrophy, low sperm count, and difficulty in performing sexually via erectile dysfunction. Furthermore, if you work out to feel and look stronger you should be aware that alcohol is preventing you from making as much progress as you should. It does this by destroying muscle gains in several ways, including lowering testosterone, dehydration, preventing vitamin absorption, and much more.

http://www.stopdrinkingalcohol.com/alcohol-lowers-testosterone.html
True... but when we are on an hangover our body produces much more test to rebalance levels...
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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2011, 12:30:34 PM »
True... but when we are on an hangover our body produces much more test to rebalance levels...

where's the studies to prove this lol

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2011, 01:34:19 PM »
I am trying you guys...Over the last few months, I went deeper into the hole than I have ever been, but the last couple weeks I have been digging myself out of it. Nearly clean now, just had a little rum a few days ago, and have been lifting again. I feel great, and can not for the life of me figure out what is driving me to drink! Go to workout, feel amazing, happy! And when just when my guard is down, suddenly I am reaching for a bottle of rum while reading something online, or watching tv...I can not even begin to say why I drink...There is no good reason for it.

Do a 10 day Lemonade/maple syrup/cayenne pepper fast. It will get all the poison out and reset your mind/body. No joke bro. read about and it do it.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2011, 01:35:22 PM »
I love power drinking and listening huey lewis and the news, but my neighbors call the cops when I do.

A big Saturday night nice

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2011, 01:57:37 PM »
A big Saturday night nice

Yeah its always a blast. But I need a new drug

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2011, 02:46:21 AM »
Alcoholic cardiomyopathy is very rare. Worry about your liver instead. fasting to "detox" is BS.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2011, 09:59:43 PM »
I am totally aware of this. Sadly mental illness (from schizophrenia to bi-polar to depression, alcoholism etc) runs HARD in my family. I am fighting an uphill battle, and it was bodybuilding that kept me from it. That and God. Now I am on my own, and on my own I fell hard. However, getting back to my roots, and working hard at it.

I appreciate the well wishes, I really do.

The impact of ones family history of substance abuse and mental illness can be overwhelming at times, I know this from personal experience. Don't allow bodybuilding to be a "was" and make it the reason why you will not succumb to the shortcomings of your forefathers. Everyone is on their own when all is said an done. You are much stronger than you give yourself credit for being.

The big thing is that you've acknowledged the problem....looked the devil in the eye, so to speak. Don't undersell you ability to overcome your history and be all that you want to be. Be strong. Live strong.

Trust me, most of us have dysfunction in our lives. Some of us cave to it and the stronger among us, like you, overcome it.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2011, 10:07:11 PM »
Alcoholic cardiomyopathy is very rare. Worry about your liver instead. fasting to "detox" is BS.


Fasting to detox is far from BS. Buying "supps" and/or liver aids for your liver is BS. But I'm willing to bet you have taken your fair share of Bullshit liver aid products.

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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2011, 02:26:03 AM »

Fasting to detox is far from BS. Buying "supps" and/or liver aids for your liver is BS. But I'm willing to bet you have taken your fair share of Bullshit liver aid products.
I drink like fuck!!! When I prepare a competition I stay low for 2 months... Wake up every day and drink lemon juice with green tea and some sugar... after a few days I feel like new. 
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Re: Alcohol induced cardiac myopathy
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2011, 03:57:21 AM »
i drink everyday!
red wine!
3 glasses, at night.
there is reason italians, french , spanish people die less of hart attacks then the rest of europe.

3 glasses a day is fine!
when you start drinking to forget problems, when you can not go a day without... thats trouble....

you have to enjoy life man!

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Re: Alcohol induced cardiac myopathy
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2011, 05:46:21 AM »
Two mollies, a jar and a blunt...good to go.
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Re: Alcohol induced cardiac myopathy
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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2011, 06:05:04 AM »
I am totally aware of this. Sadly mental illness (from schizophrenia to bi-polar to depression, alcoholism etc) runs HARD in my family. I am fighting an uphill battle, and it was bodybuilding that kept me from it. That and God. Now I am on my own, and on my own I fell hard. However, getting back to my roots, and working hard at it.

I appreciate the well wishes, I really do.
What symptoms of withdrawal are you having Methyl?

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Re: Alcohol induced cardiac myopathy
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2011, 07:22:37 AM »
Alcohol Lowers Testosterone, Increases Estrogen
If you're a guy and you're STILL unsure whether to reduce or eliminate alcohol from your diet, here's yet another fact for you to ponder: alcohol lowers testosterone and increases estrogen, often bringing about gynecomastria (male breast enlargement) due to increased conversion of testosterone and other aromatizable androgens to estrogen.

It can also lead to testicular atrophy, low sperm count, and difficulty in performing sexually via erectile dysfunction. Furthermore, if you work out to feel and look stronger you should be aware that alcohol is preventing you from making as much progress as you should. It does this by destroying muscle gains in several ways, including lowering testosterone, dehydration, preventing vitamin absorption, and much more.

http://www.stopdrinkingalcohol.com/alcohol-lowers-testosterone.html
True... but when we are on an hangover our body produces much more test to rebalance levels...
One step forward, two steps back.

Good luck with that.

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Re: Alcohol induced cardiac myopathy
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2011, 08:26:35 AM »
One step forward, two steps back.

Good luck with that.
shooting test also helps... lol!
no worries in the test department.
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Re: i wannna drink alot and often but scared of cardiac myopathy
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2011, 09:49:23 AM »
i hear you bro.maybe cheek into support groups and focus on school.i picked up a fucking dwi in 2008 fucking sucked lost a good job.doing better now.
Sad news. What was your alcohol level?