yes ,,you can build quite gfood physiqwe with out hormones,,yes!,,it will not be thick physiqe,,it wil nto be big physiqe ,, it wil be in conditioned physiqe that will give the illusion of more size than it truly is ,,USUALY 15 LB ILLUSION,, yes you will have to have some ingredients that will have to be there inorder to do it,,
1. tann ,,you will have to be on the beach a lot of finish the air spray bottles like a chica in heat,,
2. you will have to never skop a meal ,,you will have no life,,your only work wil be able to be in the gym in the counter,,or maybe bouncer for few hours at night ,,and by bouncer i mean looking at ids...or somethign easy that doewsnt take lots of effort,,
3. you will not be able to ever skip training,, moment you wil do you will not be fogivven like with hormones,,you will just suffer with your look
4. you will have window of opportuinity to take your shirt off and show your nice physiqe with some impressivness ,,,that window of opportuinity will be 5-8 min at the end of your work out when you are pumped...if lean enough ,,with the pump you will look very good,,after that 8 min you are back to flat fella that look like he doesnt work out or look fit and strong or look like he play sports...
5. you will have to always be caqreful to not look too flat,,yet no matter how much you wil be caqrefull you will ALWAYS LOOK FLAT
6. you will look impressive with your condition yet moment you turn dise ways you will dissapear,,there wil be no thickness to the physiq,, the thickness wil be from temporqry pump and thats it!
7. you will have to take halodrol inorder to get to the next level ,,and halodrol is a drug ,,so you become hormone user...that is still natural
8. the usage of creatine will put such a hole in your pocket and for what? only god knows.. since no matter how good you lok at 180 something ...you still dont look thick ,,you look athletic you look dense if in condition ,,you look muscular and built and ripped...yet not thick lean ,,the impressivness talked about on this boardings we all on none stop is impressivness that has to do with BEING THICK AND LEAN AT THE SAME TIME,, it is nto achivable with out hormones,, and the ones who say they are thick and lean with out hormones LIE,,they may be clean but they are not NATURAL
9. you will be very strong naturaly ,,many naturlas are strong with good physiqe ,,but while you pull down 4 plates each side of the hammer...the210lb fella pull down 3 plates each side and look 20lb of lean tissue bigger and thicker than you ... with same bodyfat...so what exactly oyu achieve ? you look good btu he looks better! this is bodybuildign,,if you are same bodyfat....and you goto 20lb on someone then youre way bigger than that someone ...simple even if his arms are almost the size of yours when he is pumped and you are not ...bodyparrts means nothing,,the over all picture is whos body hold more lean muscle,,and what bodypart mesuere when in the same condition aka not pumped !
10. many years of training mean foundation yes,,but it also mean vry little progress if truly natural ,, it is very hard to get the human body off his wanting to be in status quo and return to it ,, the human body want to have only functional muscle,,if you arre natural ,,truly natural ,,and you dont have exact no life no partying no narcotics type of lie...you wil not advance even a little bit,,true naturals have no life,,they cant have life ,,they lose muscle from any little stress,, they cant be strssed,,they cant do many things that hormonized bodybuilders do ,,its just not worth it and very very few do it truly naturally ,,they usually dont compete ,,and the ones who do compete do it locally and lose befor they learn how to cheat the system with bunk urine test of a friend...inorder to pass as fake natural ,,alwyas been this way ,,always wil be this way ,,
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Story of my life

I started at 18. I am 41 now. I have trained naturally and consistently since 1988 with a couple of 6 month breaks in that time. I'm about 16kg heavier than when I started and have been here for a loooong time! Man - I've tried every training method there is, every type of creatine there is, protein powders, blah, blah, blah......and you know, even now, even at my age when I know better and have done for years, I still kill myself in the gym and think "Hey - shoulders are coming out a bit more" "Hey - arms are getting bigger" - and I know they're really not. Not since I was 23! LOL.
But fuck it. I'm happy where I am. I used to be fat. I'm not fat. Almost everyone I know thinks I'm 'big'. I have a better physique than 90% of the guys my age and young babes still flirt with me. I do so many other sports that blowing up would be counterproductive now.
It is what i choose it to be. I have friends doing cycles and sometimes I get frustrated thinking "fuck - I'm stronger than they are, work out harder and they leave looking blown up, and come back and blow up some more". I would have liked to have doen the same when I was younger, but I didn't, so there's no point complaining now. I'm happy enough where I am.