True definition of breaking through a plateau

[Secret Stack]

PM him, idiot.  

...trying to skip the 1 month queue.  

[OptimusPrime1980]

Probably my definition of a good or impressive physique differs from yours then.
I agree that a true natural looks small with clothes on when lean and can only look big when permabulking (fat).
Maybe you're used to looking at pros, that's why naturals arent impressive to you.

Your posts reek of gh15 though, you were even attacking the coach guy.

well we agree then! lol...
and coach... well , he is just a liar.. i hate liars
that does not make me gh15.
and i just said he is a dwarf, and on drigs and that he will forever be on drugs... all facts!
not really an attack....

[coltrane]

I'm just trying to figure out GH15's blanket statement that everyone who works out is on steroids.   

[chunkramwell]

I'm just trying to figure out GH15's blanket statement that everyone who works out is on steroids.   

You're never going to figure it out because it's not a blanket statement.  Either your reading comprehension sucks or you've not read through the bible.   

alright,, just to calrify few points that need to be mentioned again ,,due to the many questions i get asked in pms ,,i can nto answer them all especialy when you ask to leave the name out,, i will do it here to begin with ,, read CARFULY,,that is also for all the other boarding memebrs who come here as visitors to read gh15,,

first of,, gh15 advice is for SERIOUS BODYBUILDERS,, i keep saying it along the years,, it is not for someone who just enter a gym first month,,i always keep mentioning it ,,my enemies and yes i call them enemies for twisting of the truth and outlieing straight out,,they chose to only quote parts of what i say and relate it to specific agenda they have,, this is importanto to understand friends,, rememebr my pupils know it but you the new reader the new follower of gh15 first and formost need TO READ THE BIBLE,,you cant just go by a posting or me purposly mispeling somethings,, it is important for you to look in the wholeeeee pictures,, so thats that no need to write to me about what other individual say ,,rememebr i consider most of them filth ,,lizards,, and straight out convicts and narcotic addicts which many many of them are

now,, the stories of sadness that come to my pms box,,and mail,, they come from many many individuals aroudn the world,,many are natural and stuck ,,many are hormonized and just dont know what to do ,, they come to me because they know the truth wil be there ,,and there is no agenda,, I CHOOSE when and whati put on the boarding,, i choose it quite carefuly i get 100s of pms ina month ,,it is uncontrolable ,,i do nto put all on the boarding,, the pms are from older individuals in most cases,, the ones who been mislead,,and then there are the new up and comers which are my strong group of bodybuild which i guide ,,they are in the in the 1000s aroudn the world ,,some just come to read my advice,, but remember gh15 get questions from all groups of age ,,from all genders of age,,and if need to show it is very easy to do ,,i just avoid some because it is too much ,,i cant control all the pms ,,im only one individual,,

now,, in regard to doses,, i keep telling that the usage of hormones can be done with little dose and with mega dose,,inorder to grow to seasoned advanced bodybuild who compete high level you need MEGA DOSE ,,IT WAS ALWAYS THE CASE,,if you play with 100 mg trenbolona ace and 100 mg propionets ..you will end up 200lb 6% and be stuck there for ever and ever till you get old and need to quit bodybuild,, as simple as that,, so me saying the truth doesnt mean you should quote me wrong ,,alaways attach my full quotes with the information i provide,,you will find i am never wrong and you will find i am alwyas very calculated and always advice to the point with out going around the point



now,, in regarding the repetetive question of bodybuild as in modern cult we are living in right now for the last 2 decades,,
friends,, it is diff cult,,the thign is that while i give you the utmost new information ,,there are the lizards and th eliars who try to make a buck and dont want me to do it ...they say my information is not updates while in reailtiy im the fuckin information ,,i do it on myself for very very many years,, and got the the top,, it is important to understand that modern bodybuild is DIFFERENT THAN OLD BODYBUILD,, and how is it diff? i will write it in capital for all to see and understand


MODERN BODYBUILD IS A SPECIFIC ACTIVITY THAT TAKES IN BODYBUILD THAT IS NOT FULLY READY AND BLOW THE FELLA UP,, TAKE A LOOK AT LETS TAKE FOR EXAMPLE ROLLEY,,IM TIRED OF TAKING PHILSULINA AS EXAMPEL SO WE WILL TAKE ANOTHER BODYBUILD ...ROLLEY,, LOOK AT HIM BEFORE BEFORE... HE STARTED GH AND INSULINA...YOU WILL NOTICE THAT HE WASNT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THE TOP LEVEL COMPETITORS OF THE 70S AND 80S,,NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE,,HE WAS WHAT YOU CALL ADVANCED GYM RAT COMPETETIVE IN SOME WAYS ,,HE WAS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT,,

WHAT MADE ROLLEY GREAT,,HE IS NOT GREAT BUT IMPROVED... WHAT MADE HIM IMPROVED,,AND WHAT MADE THE JAP IMPROVED AND WHAT MADE LUKIE WOOD IMPROVED BEFORE MISHKO ROBBED HIM FROM HIS INNOCENCE AND WHAT MADE MUSTAF IMPROVED,,AND WHAT MADE KUKELO THE KID IMPORVED AND WHAT MADE ALL OF US IMPROVED IN THE NEWWWWW MODEN BODYBUILD IS THE BLOW UP FROM WITHIN METHOD,,THAT WAS NOT PRESENT IN THE PAST,,WHY? BECAUS THERE WAS NO GH IN THE DOSES WE USE NOW AND NO INSULINA,,
WHAT SEPERATE US FROM YOU IS NOT OUR AMAZING WONDERFUL GENETICS ....ITS US TAKING 3 VIALS OF LEGIT GH A DAY INSTED OF YOUR 5 IU ,, YOU TAKE HALF A VIAL ,,WE TAKE 3 VIALS... VERY VERY SIMPLE ,,,TRY FOR SHORT TIME TO UP THE NORDIC GH YOU GET SINCE ALL OF YOU BUY FROM NORDIC ,,THE ONES WHO GET SOMWEHRE IN BODYBUILD,, TRY TO INJECT IT AT A RATIO OF A VIAL A DAY ,,SEE HOW FAT YOU BLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW UPPPPPPPPPPPPPP FROMMMMMMMMMMMMM THE INSIDE OUT,,EVERYTHING GETS ROUNDER BLOWING UP ,,ONLY THING THAT GETS TIGHTER IS THE FUCKINNNNNNNNNNNNN WAIST,,
YES FRIENDS,,THE POWER OF GH! THE POWER OF LEGIT GH THAT THE MOTHER FUCKIN LIZARDS WHO OPEN THEIR MOUTH DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT AND WANT YOU TO USE AT MINIMAL DOSES SO YOU STAY STUCK AND THEY CAN ROB SOME MORE MONEY OFF YOU ON SOME NEW GRAS FED SPECIAL CREATINE  THAT PENETRATE YOUR EAR IF YOU SLEEP ON IT AT NIGHT,, THEY ARE SCAMBGS AND LIARS,,IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU TO REMEMBER,,THE REASON THEY DONT TELL YOU THAT IS BECAUSE NO BODYBUILD WANT COMPETITION ,,THEY HAVE SPECIFIC MENTALITY ,,MANY OF THEM ARE CONVICTS,,MANY OF THEM ARE NARCSISTS,, AND MANY OF THEM WANT TO MAKE MONEY FACE TO FACE WITH ADVICE THAT WILL ONLY GET YOU FAR ENOUGH FOR YOU TO HIRE THEM AGAIN! FOR ANOTHER SHOW WHEN YOU WILL GAIN ANOTHER 1.3 LBS OF NEW MUSCLE INSTED OF ALREADY BEING 10LB OF EXTRA LEAN MUSCLE LARGER....

SEEE FRIENDS ,,THIS IS WHAT I BEEN FIGHTING FOR MANY YEARS,, I WAS PART OF THEM ,,I WAS I USED TO LIE TO YOUR FACE,, I USED TO BE ON COMMERICALS I USED TO SELL TONS OF SHIT FOR THIS SCAMBAGS ,,I USED TO LIEV A LIE,,BUT WHEN I DIE I KNOW WHERE IM GOING ,,WHEN THEY DIE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ROTTEN IN HELL FOR THE LIES THEY FED SO MANY FELLAS WITH STORIES ,,SAD SOTIES THAT I NEED TO READ IN MY PM EVERY WEEK FROM SO MANY FELLAS AROUDN THE WORLD THAT TARE THEIR ASS APART IN THE GYM BECAUE SOME MOTHER FUCKIN SCAMBAG LIKE RON HERIS AND MIKE ARNELDS SAID THEY SHOULD BECUASE THEY NEED TO GET TO SOME POINT FIRST WHEN THEIR RIGHT HAND IS WORKING FAST ENOUGH SO THEY CAN GIVE MORE MONEY AND THEN THEY CAN START THEIR CYCLES,, BALONIE BALONIE BALONIE AND MORE BALONIE FED BY FELLAS WHO WRITE FOR BOARDINGS ,,FELLAS WHO MISLEAD YOU RIGHT AND LEFT ,,

I DESPEIZE THIS FELLAS AND I CONSIDER THEM FILTH ,,IT IS NOT LIKE TWISTER-COACH WHICH IS ONLY TWISTER OF THE TRUTH BUT A GOOD FELLA ,,IT IS REAL REAL SCAMBAGS THAT ARE CONVICTS AND DRUG ADICTS,,AND I MEAN REAL NARCOTICS,,REAL CRIMES,,

REMEMBER THIS FRIENDS,, LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE SEPDNIGN ON BOARDS PARADING YOUR 191 LB 65 ....IF YOU WANT TO BE COMPETETIVE WITH THE BIG BOYS NOW DAY ,,YOU GOT TO DO WHAT THEY DO ,,AND MANY OF THEM DO IT VERY EARLY ,,IT IS JSUT THE TRUTH ,,IT IS ALL HUSH HUSH ,,LIES OVER LIES FED BY MOTHER FUKKIN GURUS WHO LIE RIGHT AND LEFT PRIME EXAMPEL IS PALUMBO WHO POISIONED BODYBUILD WITH BUNK GH THAT WAS ANTI DURETIC ,,HE POISONED FELLAS THATS WHY HE SET IN PRISON! BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THOSE LIZARD,,YOU ALSO SAW WHAT HE DID AND HOW HE ABUSED BILLY GUN FROM THIS BOARDING,,

EVERY PROFESIONAL YOU LOOK NOW AT IS BLOWN UP FROM WITHIN ,,THEY ALL ARE 200-210-220 ...THEY ALL BLOWN UP FROM WITHIN TO 250 260 270 WITH HIGH DOSES GH AND INSULINA,,THIS BLOW UP BLOWS YOU HARD,,IT ENLARGE YOU FROM THE INSIDE,,IT IS LIKE BALOON BUT HARDER DUE TO LOW BODYFAT SINCE IF YOU REMEMBER I TELL YOU TO START IT WHEN LEAN ENOUGH SO YOU CAN GROW AND TRULY GROW THE WAY KEVIN DID ,,

SO I SUGGEST EVERY ONE OF YOU WHEN FINISH PLAY WITH BALONIE GH ,,AND WHEN REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT NORDIC IS THE ONLY ONLY! SUPPLIER OF GH THAT IS TRUSTED,,AND NO NORDIC DOES NOT GIVE GH15 ANY SHARES,,HE JUST BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND THE MOST PROOVED SOURCE IN HISTORY OF BODYBUILD EVER! ,,THE GH IS TRUE GH AND NOT A MIX BETWEN PEPTIDE AND GH ,,NOT A MIX BETWEEN GHRTUYE2 THAT MARCUS FROM SPAIN TRY TO BALONIE YOU WITH ,,IT IS NOT SOME PEPTIDE THAT MAKE YOU LOSE FAT YET DONT BLOW YOU UP FROM WITHIN RIGHT,, THE LEGIT GH I TALK ABOUT BLWO YOU UP FROM WITHTIN ,,WITH LOTS OF TESTOSTERONA ON WEEK 3-4 YOU LOOK LIKE A DIFF PERSON ! WITH INSULINA ITS A PRO! ,,THIS IS HOW WE DO IT ,,YES YOU NEED EXPERIENCE WITH HORMONES,,YES,, BUT EVERYONE WHO EVER GOT ANYWHER EIN THE LAST 20 YEARS DOES IT THIS WAY ,,THIS IS HOW IT IS DONE,,IT WASNT THIS WAY IN THE EARLY 80S AND 70S ,,NOW! IT IS ,,


IF YOU EVER TOOK A VIAL OF THE RED TOP A DAY YOU WOULD START SEEING WHAT GH15 IS TALKING ABOUT,,YOU WILL SEE YOU GETTING WIDER BY THE DAY ,,INFACT BY THE HOUR!! FROM THE INSIDE OUT FRIENDS,, FROM THE INSIDE FUCKIN OUT,,MIDSECTION INSTED OF GETTING FATTER AND BLOOFIER WITH 1-2 GRAM TESTOSTERONA AND 1 GRAM EQUIPONA OR NPPIONA...MIDSECITON WILL GET TIGHTER AND THE ABS WILL PUSH OUT! THIS IS THE TRUTH RIGHT THERE! ,,EVERY MUSCLE WILL COME OUT SCREAMING,,YES IT WIL HAVE SOME WATER ON IT BUT IT WONT BE NO FAT!! IT WILL BE WATER,,AND YOU WIL BE THE NEW TALK OF ANY GYM YOU ENTER,,YOU WIL ALSO THEN BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO COMPETE AMONG THE FILTH LIARS WHO SOLD YOU ILLUSION ALL THOSE YEARS,,AND YOU WILL LEARN TO HATE THEM ,,HATE THEM WITH PASSION ,,

FELLAS BEING MISLEAD RIGHT AND LEFT BY PROMINENET FELLAS IN THE CULT,,THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SHOULD BE REFERED TO AS CRIME

gh15 approved

[coltrane]

I definitely haven't read thru his "bible" as i'm not taking illegal steroids.

I read thru his barely coherent babble just now and it still doesn't answer my questions.

How is it possible that if i've been training for 19 years and never taken a steroid, I'm hormonized?

[Secret Stack]

I definitely haven't read thru his "bible" as i'm not taking illegal steroids.

I read thru his barely coherent babble just now and it still doesn't answer my questions.

How is it possible that if i've been training for 19 years and never taken a steroid, I'm hormonized?

u must be one dumb fucker!

how about this: "all girls today are sluts"

and one girl comes along and starts the brainless thread like u have started and says "how can i be a slut if i still havnt had sex yet?"

learn to read between the lines. he is making a fukn STATEMENT about bodybuilding as of 2011!!

this one here just finished 10 years of university. u can tell lol.

[tlc]

coltrane you are a fucking moron, asking a fucking moronic question.

Fuck off.

Moron.

[coltrane]

No, asshole, he isn't just making a statement.  Go through and read his shit.  I've posted my natty pics, along with many others, and he states we're all hormonized along with ALL other bodybuilders.

He dismisses in total the statement that any bodybuilder is natural.

When the dude admits that someone can have a decent build without steroids, i'll be satisfied.  Until then, STFU and don't assume you know everytthing.

[coltrane]

Ha.  Look at all the GH15 disciples coming to his aid.  Bunch of brainwashed drug addicts.

There are natural competitions out there which are drug tested.  And there are people out there that don't take steroids and have good builds.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Coltrane STFU. Nobody cares. Real bodybuilding is all drugs. Not your fucking "staying in shape" natural BS.

Hope this helps.

[coltrane]

Coltrane STFU. Nobody cares. Real bodybuilding is all drugs. Not your fucking "staying in shape" natural BS.

Hope this helps.

Point i'm making is that yes, some bodybuilders are on drugs, and some aren't .  GH can't seem to accept that.

[Meso_z]

colontrain.

[coltrane]

All you little juicers at gonna be sick to your stomach when that xray reveals one day that you've got cancer or a failing kidney etc.  You're gonna wish you hadn't popped all that shit in your ass.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Point i'm making is that yes, some bodybuilders are on drugs, and some aren't .  GH can't seem to accept that.

Imo, being natural is NOT bodybuilding... and im natural so go figure.

[Secret Stack]

No, asshole, he isn't just making a statement.  Go through and read his shit.  I've posted my natty pics, along with many others, and he states we're all hormonized along with ALL other bodybuilders.

He dismisses in total the statement that any bodybuilder is natural.

When the dude admits that someone can have a decent build without steroids, i'll be satisfied.  Until then, STFU and don't assume you know everytthing.

fuck im seriuously laughing here. he has said many times there are great naturals out there. that he has trianed them personally.

now this is the part where u bring up the part about " no no, he said there are no naturals" ...this is the STATEMENT of bodybuilding 2011.

but he has said there are naturals and the limits are written in stone for you to read.

fall outside and above those limits? you've used a little help along the way.

still confused about this issue mind fucking u so hard u had to start a thread or would u like me to continue for u?

[Secret Stack]

colontrain.

colon trannie 

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

haha he's riding the cocktrain as we speak.

[chunkramwell]

I definitely haven't read thru his "bible" as i'm not taking illegal steroids.

I read thru his barely coherent babble just now and it still doesn't answer my questions.

How is it possible that if i've been training for 19 years and never taken a steroid, I'm hormonized?

Don't criticize someone for saying something that they didn't say, it's dishonest.

[JP_RC]

I'm just trying to figure out GH15's blanket statement that everyone who works out is on steroids.   

He sometimes exaggerates for shock I think, especially when it comes to natural training. You really have to wonder how much gh15 knows about natural training when all his knowledge is on drugs.
In my opinion, whenever gh15 isn't giving drug advice take his posts as entertainment.

[gh15]

Numerous times you've stated that "there are no true naturals" in the bodybuilding world (bodybuilding world including those that don't compete).  

Are you stating that one of the following:

1.  That everyone who lifts weights, whether recreationally or more, are on illegal steroids.  and/or
2.  That the act of lifting weights in and of itself increases hormone levels, therefore the person isn't "natural".

when i say there is no natural i mean as in general ,,ofcourse there are fellas who come day in day out natural and never get anywehre,,what gh15 mean is that in COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD THERE IS NO TRUE NATURAL ASIDE FROM VERY LOW LEVEL COMPETITIONS WHERE A PERCENTAGE OF COMPETITORS WILL BE NATURAL BUT IT IS VERY VERY SMAL PERCENTAGE USUALY 2-3 OUT OF THE ALL COMPETITORS WHO COMPETE THERE THAT DAY ,,IN HIGHER LEVEL SHOWS THERE ARE NO NATURAL PERIOD NOT IN NATURAL ORGANIZATIONS AND OFCOURSE NOT IN THE NPC,,INFACT IN  HIGHER LEVEL SHOWS THEY ARE ADDICT TO  HORMONES NOT ONLY  USING BUT ADDICTS!

as in general rule now day ,,competing or not competing ...veryu very very VERY few are the true naturals,,you can count them on one hand ,,they are very stringy looking ,,they are very little when shreded ,,they pull good illusion when pumped and real low bodyfat but they fade next to any hormonized fella that compete or not if that fella is in decent shape,,

gh15 approved

[Jaime]

Coltrane STFU. Nobody cares. Real bodybuilding is all drugs. Not your fucking "staying in shape" natural BS.

Hope this helps.

Keep telling yourself that fuckface.

Real bodybuilding lololol real bodybuilding is no drugs, heavy weight and persistance, the rest is genetics.

All the drug abusers like to make out otherwise because they have never done fuck all without abuse.

[Jaime]

fuck im seriuously laughing here. he has said many times there are great naturals out there. that he has trianed them personally.

now this is the part where u bring up the part about " no no, he said there are no naturals" ...this is the STATEMENT of bodybuilding 2011.

but he has said there are naturals and the limits are written in stone for you to read.

fall outside and above those limits? you've used a little help along the way.

still confused about this issue mind fucking u so hard u had to start a thread or would u like me to continue for u?

Yeah ok, irrespective of bone structure or metabolism, natural muscle fibre ammount, everybody will weigh excatly the same at a certain height. As according to gh15.

Expert opinion lol.

[coltrane]

fuck im seriuously laughing here. he has said many times there are great naturals out there. that he has trianed them personally.

now this is the part where u bring up the part about " no no, he said there are no naturals" ...this is the STATEMENT of bodybuilding 2011.

but he has said there are naturals and the limits are written in stone for you to read.

fall outside and above those limits? you've used a little help along the way.

still confused about this issue mind fucking u so hard u had to start a thread or would u like me to continue for u?

That's where i, along with others get pissed.  I fall outside of his "limits" and am natural.  I haven't had that help along the way.

[coltrane]

when i say there is no natural i mean as in general ,,ofcourse there are fellas who come day in day out natural and never get anywehre,,what gh15 mean is that in COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD THERE IS NO TRUE NATURAL ASIDE FROM VERY LOW LEVEL COMPETITIONS WHERE A PERCENTAGE OF COMPETITORS WILL BE NATURAL BUT IT IS VERY VERY SMAL PERCENTAGE USUALY 2-3 OUT OF THE ALL COMPETITORS WHO COMPETE THERE THAT DAY ,,IN HIGHER LEVEL SHOWS THERE ARE NO NATURAL PERIOD NOT IN NATURAL ORGANIZATIONS AND OFCOURSE NOT IN THE NPC,,INFACT IN  HIGHER LEVEL SHOWS THEY ARE ADDICT TO  HORMONES NOT ONLY  USING BUT ADDICTS!

as in general rule now day ,,competing or not competing ...veryu very very VERY few are the true naturals,,you can count them on one hand ,,they are very stringy looking ,,they are very little when shreded ,,they pull good illusion when pumped and real low bodyfat but they fade next to any hormonized fella that compete or not if that fella is in decent shape,,

gh15 approved

Now this makes a little more sense.  Sometimes i think things get lost in translation through threads.

[dj181]

That's where i, along with others get pissed.  I fall outside of his "limits" and am natural.  I haven't had that help along the way.

So what's your stats? Height, weight, % bodyfat? Height and weight and easily determined and not really left up for dispute, but % bodyfat is a whole different story. Case in point, maybe you think that you are sitting at sub-6, when in fact you are actually 8-9%