What creates a true mass monster in bodybuilding?

[g101]

just end it coach... lol

[gh15]

You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids

You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.

You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size

actualy 5'7 190-195 is bordering,,some of them do not use much slin ,,some dont use at all ,,but they are very rare,,

5'6 200lb is FAR FARRRRR from 5'7 195,,if same bf it can mean last place and first place in a competition ,,infact in many times it can mean diff weight clases


5'7 195 is realy bordering..most of them do use insulina just not at mega dosing,,

gh15 approved

[Steve Namat]

You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids

You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.

You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size

Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.

About your last sentence...maybe I shouldn't ruin my LIFE chasing a bodybuilding dream...  

[DK II]

You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids

You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.

You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size

x2!

[Steve Namat]

actualy 5'7 190-195 is bordering,,some of them do not use much slin ,,some dont use at all ,,but they are very rare,,

5'6 200lb is FAR FARRRRR from 5'7 195,,if same bf it can mean last place and first place in a competition ,,infact in many times it can mean diff weight clases


5'7 195 is realy bordering..most of them do use insulina just not at mega dosing,,

gh15 approved

But actually many of your posts are true. Soooo many crazy and dumb people in this sport. Just talked with a local NPC competitor a few weeks ago...bad physique, bad attitude...never gonna make anything in this sport... He said, now he's off...so only using Primo, Anavar and GH... I was like WTF?!

[_bruce_]

Interesting that full ROM upright rows play no role in this

 

[Van_Bilderass]

I believe Steve. He's really not progressed in size or conditioning in the recent past. He needs more GH and insulin but seems fed up with the whole thing.



Steve, would you drink this? Hungarian Gulash Water.

[Secret Stack]

Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.

Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?

what was the dosage he had u do?

[Van_Bilderass]

Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?

what was the dosage he had u do?

20iu before each of the 2 daily weight training sessions. Maybe a third 20iu shot in between if flat and lean enough. 

[DK II]

Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?

what was the dosage he had u do?

great that you say that.... 

Seems like the usual pattern is:

1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with  Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.

[GettingBig]

i can understand test produce sort of a physique so tren ! and Slin, GH ..etc

but isn't it all Hormones and they all use them ? is Phil suppose to look like Jay ? or Kai looks like Vic !

come on guys give them a break its after all bodybuilding and everyone of them believes he can accomplish something using this or that.

and ive seen enough of horribly physiques and hormone abuse the past years, and to be honest non placed high n major shows/Olympia, and the top 15 or so always looked ok at least that what i saw, i just liked one person physique than another.

but i could be wrong since my hormone knowledge is zilch !

[Rearden Metal]

Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.

About your last sentence...maybe I shouldn't ruin my LIFE chasing a bodybuilding dream...  

Post some pics before, during and after that time (2007). Shed the truth on this thread.

[lesaucer]

5iu's needs something like 50grams of glucose. The insulin will clear what's in your blood first, and then scavenge for the rest while it is active.

Your body stores glucose in muscles, liver and brain.

5iu's isn't going to do shit, assuming the person is healthy.

Stop trying to scare people when you have no clue what you are talking about.

you're the one who dont know what the fuck you talking about. take it 5iu and eat nothing see whats gonna happen fucking retard, you know the coma is near when you see the white light and feeling like you weight 5lbs.

[lesaucer]

Yeah at 195 I'm huuuuugeeee! That means a lots of insulina! Haha! You're so stupid!

never said you used a shitload of it but yes you use it like anyone of us, bitch. we can even see the marks on your abs, gimme a break

[Coach is Back!]

huh?? carry what ? you are a flab,,lol carry muscle ,,did you se yourself in the mirror lately? a flab ,,im talking about what you used to be back few years ago,,and before hand...not the flab you are not that is 200lb of shit ,,you look much smaller than 5'10 fellas at 200lb what you talking about,,years of training means nothing! nothing! if they meant anythign mishkp woiuld be a monster,,and so would be mustaf...have you seen the murderer lately? i suggest you take a look ,,even fellas who train with no problems in life,,they dont keep even fraction of what they were if no drugs in system ,,you get old body quits on you you doofus,,years of training balonie,,this is the thunderdome get out of here with this balonie you twister of truth,,


the ass and the joke here is YOU,,you do a poll here who believe your claims and your eyes will turn black,,see the one with the problems is you ,,in your head  you make ass out of individuals who tell you the truth....in reailty you are nothign NOTHIG BUT DRUG ADDICT,,THATS WHAT YOUR MARIRAGES WERE RUINED,,THATS WHY YOUR LIFE WERE RUINED AND YOU TURNED TO JESUS..AND ALL OF THAT DIDNT HELP YOU TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANTED WHICH IS WHERE I AM

PRO IFBB CARD,,

this is the end of argument here,,you blub and blub ,,twist reaility ,,while i feed it to them piece by piece breaking your generation shit hold on those poor kidos,,and this generation holding is gone now,,your most miserable luck is that a fella like disgusted that could back you up some ...even he doesnt care to because he know the truth ....yes he is bud bud with you but in reaility ...you and him and myself know what it takes,,and it is alot more than the twists of reality you sell here inorder to get a customer,,this is really realy bad what you do here,,same for noel ,,it is 50 year old + acting in the manner of a child ,,and really its example of the fellas who survives the drug abuse and didnt have major comlications  yet you see what we stuck with...twisters of truth,, you are what eric from would have become if he survived to your age...

TWISTER OF REALITY

this shall be known as your name on getbig from this day on,,

twister!

i will also refer to you as twister,,

gh15 approved

First you said I wouldn't be any bigger than 160lbs if I was off, I was off completely for over 3 years and smallest I got was down to 205. Now that I'm on you're saying the opposite. You're stories are falling apart like Weiner's weiner...you weiner.

P.S. No one in their right mind would want to kill themselves for a "pro card"...hahaha what a joke. You fail. Amazing how you come so sincere in Alex's videos but behind a keyboard you're a back stabber. Grow a nut so you can at least have one!

[lesaucer]

I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle

[Coach is Back!]

I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle

Never even tried because I know potentially it could screw you're system but good. If 'GH15" was as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be able to tell from my pictures. But being who he thinks he's, he's not that perceptive.

[dustin]

great that you say that.... 

Seems like the usual pattern is:

1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with  Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.

Wizardry of truth... What coach said in previous postings = twister of lies.

[Coach is Back!]

Wizardry of truth... What coach said in previous postings = twister of lies.

You're saying I'm lying or he's lying?

[Steve Namat]

Post some pics before, during and after that time (2007). Shed the truth on this thread.

2006 (2 days after a show)

2007 (precontest with Milos)

2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)


I'll try to find better comparisons...

[no one]

2006 (2 days after a show)

2007 (precontest with Milos)

2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)


I'll try to find better comparisons...

good noticeable progress especially thickness and density of the arms and chest.

but then again 4 years has gone by, so those changes should be noticeable. what i see is a guy who uses training and diet as much as the drugs to build his body. a guy with discipline.

dude, you have a great physique. in the top 1% of the world imo.

can i ask you why you still choose to compete knowing this is a game for the mass monsters, not the guys who have good flow? its a shame, but your either 30-40 years too late, or several years too early, depending on which way comp bb goes.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

today im going to talk about what create a true mass monster,,

in bodybuild there is size and then there is blown out of propition size,,whee everythign is huge,,you seen it starting in the mid 90s and at full force during the year of the mexicana dragon 2000,, that year drug intake was at al time availability to everyone and everyone was on everything they could get and everything was very very easy to get! ,,

now the mass monsters are diff than the regular bodybuild circa 1980s 1990s,, the mass monsters are blown up from within by insulina and gh ,,

this is the key componenets in taking them to the size talked about,,this size ofcourse is only true to offseason because many of them do not maintain it and need to lose alot of weight and size to stage level due to the way the fat is being held inside the muscle insted of between muscle and skin,,

quit fucking with these kids already...

the fellas i am talkin about called mass monsters ,,you see them around in the gyms,, they are 270 5'9 8% ,,they are 300lb 5'11 8% they are 5'5 240lb 8%,,they are very easy to detect but not due to quality but more of due to size,,the diameter is large ,,of EVERYTHING,,if you take close look at them and look into the gut area you wil seee that this is the true thing that grow in them ,,the rest is blown from within but the only thing that truely grow on them is the gut!,,the reason many dont pay attention is because the other bodyparts blow up too,,and due to specific anabolics and androgenics and the way the muscle push the skin from the inside,,,the veina are pronounced and the muscle give illusion of being in more condition than it truly is ,, those fellas look impressive until you put them next to true bodybuild that place high in high level competitions,,

now,, what bring those fella up to be mass monsters,,is hgh and insulina in doses you can nto even start dreaming off,, im talking here about 100 ius of insulina a day ,, i am talking here about 20-30 iu of gh a day ,,and they can take it and especialy in 2000 they could take it and then they had everything legit so they could show a better qualitative look eventhouhg it was illusion it was of a more quality than today since now day its harder to get legit products,,

so it is important to understand that the ingrediants to a mass monster DO NOT GO THROUGH ANABOLICS AND ANDROGENIC PER SAY ,,THEY GO THROUGH LOTS OF GH AND INSULINA INADDITION TO LOTS OF TESTOSTERONA and very high levels of anabolic such as npp eq and trenbolona,, but ! the main  ingredients that with out them you will not see mass monster are INSULINA AND HGH ,,WITH OUT INSULINA YOU WILL NOT GET THERE,,THE REASON THERE IS 270LB 5'9 AND YOU SIT 5'9 AT 210 LB IS MAINLY INSULINA AND GH ,,HIGHER DOSES OF GH THAN YOU TAKE MUCH HIGHER ,,AND LOTS OF INSULINA THAT YOU DO NOT TAKE,,


SO ONCE AGAIN 5'9 260LB 8% IS A FELLA THAT IS SATURATED WITH INSULINA ,,ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ,, IF YOU TAKE OUT HIS INSULINA AND LEAV HIM WITH GH AND AAS ONLY HE WILL BE 220-230 LB 8% IN THE BETTER CASE AND IF VERY EXPERIENCED AND MANY YEARS OF USAGE BEHIND HIM AND CONSISTANT USAGE OF GH AND AAS,,

BUT! INORDER TO GET TO BE MASS MONSTER AND MASS MONSTER ARE THE 6'1 304 LB OR 6'1 296LB ....9% INORDER TO BE THEM ,,,THE DOSES OF INSULINA ARE  VERY HIGH ,,AND TH EDOSES OF HGH ARE COUNTED BY THE VIALS NOT BY THE IUS!

gh15 approved

[Rearden Metal]

2006 (2 days after a show)

2007 (precontest with Milos)

2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)


I'll try to find better comparisons...

Gotta be honest, Milos had you on point. How far out was that 2007 pic? Much rounder and thicker. So why the dislike for slin?

[240_Iz_Nutz]

Steve, don't listen to bullshit. You have kicked ass my man, respect. I can't imagine doing slin and some of that shit. And phil heath does look cool, but at what cost

[Steve Namat]

Gotta be honest, Milos had you on point. How far out was that 2007 pic? Much rounder and thicker. So why the dislike for slin?

Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.

Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?

1.  I wanna stay healthy.

2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.

3. I wanna make money.


So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?

It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.