Obama vs. Obama on the Health Care Mandate - Which one do you believe?

[Soul Crusher]

Watch this toards the end.  Unreal.   Here is is attacking the health care mandate. 

AND NOW WE GET HIM DEFENDING THE MANDATE   

AND FOR THE BELLY LAUGH OF BELLY LAUGHS.

   

[Soul Crusher]

Bump for Andre. 

[Soul Crusher]

Bump for Straw - Andre - and 240   

[Straw Man]

I didn't bother watching but let me guess

when he was running he said one thing and when he got in office and couldn't get what he wanted he had to compromise and then go out and advocate for his compromise

what's the point

it's passed and sometime in the future when an insurance company can't kick your off your plan for no good reason or can't exclude you for a pre-existing condition (most likely a mental disorder) you'll look back and thank Obama

[Soul Crusher]

I didn't bother watching but let me guess

when he was running he said one thing and when he got in office and couldn't get what he wanted he had to compromise and then go out and advocate for his compromise

what's the point

it's passed and sometime in the future when an insurance company can't kick your off your plan for no good reason or can't exclude you for a pre-existing condition (most likely a mental disorder) you'll look back and thank Obama

Watch the clips moron.   

[Straw Man]

Watch the clips moron.   

I never watch any clips you post

told you that many times

[Soul Crusher]

I never watch any clips you post

told you that many times

Yeah - because if you watched the above you would not have any excuses to keep spouting your nonsense and lies.

If Obama felt that strongly against the mandate as he did when running, he would have vetoed the bill or refused to sign it.   Its called leadership and integrity.  Something this disgusting wretch and ghetto thug looting flash mobber has never had.     

[Straw Man]

Yeah - because if you watched the above you would not have any excuses to keep spouting your nonsense and lies.

If Obama felt that strongly against the mandate as he did when running, he would have vetoed the bill or refused to sign it.   Its called leadership and integrity.  Something this disgusting wretch and ghetto thug looting flash mobber has never had.     

I don't watch your clips because it never actually matters to YOU what is in the clip or what the facts are

you "hear" whatever you want and choose to "believe" only what reinforces your opinions

[Soul Crusher]

I don't watch your clips because it never actually matters to YOU what is in the clip or what the facts are

you "hear" whatever you want and choose to "believe" only what reinforces your opinions

LMAO!    Its obama in his own words! 

[Straw Man]

LMAO!    Its obama in his own words! 

what part about my first post don't you understand

[Soul Crusher]

what part about my first post don't you understand

Fine - have someone else tell me that I am hearing something different in these clips than what obama is saying.   

Should be interesting.   

[Straw Man]

Fine - have someone else tell me that I am hearing something different in these clips than what obama is saying.   

Should be interesting.   

I'll say it again and tell me what part you don't understand:

Like ALL politicians, when he was running he said one thing and when he got in office and couldn't get what he wanted he had to compromise and then go out and advocate for his compromise

[Soul Crusher]

I'll say it again and tell me what part you don't understand:

Like ALL politicians, when he was running he said one thing and when he got in office and couldn't get what he wanted he had to compromise and then go out and advocate for his compromise

Sorry Straw -  obama lied about EVERYTHING and had be been remotely honest, Hillary would have won by a mile.   Obama was elected on lies and deciet.   His entire existence is based on lies and taquiya. 

Comprimise?  Sorry - something so big as the mandate is not open for that if you feel as passionately about it as he claims in the clip.   And did he ever say he only signed on to it because that was the ionly way he could get a bill?  No! !  !


He did so out of his utterly dishonest and corrupt dealings with the drug companies and insurers.  Do read anything at all?   

[Straw Man]

Sorry Straw -  obama lied about EVERYTHING and had be been remotely honest, Hillary would have won by a mile.   Obama was elected on lies and deciet.   His entire existence is based on lies and taquiya. 

Comprimise?  Sorry - something so big as the mandate is not open for that if you feel as passionately about it as he claims in the clip.   And did he ever say he only signed on to it because that was the ionly way he could get a bill?  No! !  !


He did so out of his utterly dishonest and corrupt dealings with the drug companies and insurers.  Do read anything at all?   

I'm telling you how the world works and you should know this

on the campaign trail you sell your ideal plans and when you get in office you have to compromise and then you have to sell your compromise

the Dems caved on healthecare and we got weak compromise and Obama has to go out and polish that turd

that's the way it works

isn't it about time in this thread that you post some pics of Michell Obama or some similar shit that you do?

[Soul Crusher]

I'm telling you how the world works and you should know this

on the campaign trail you sell your ideal plans and when you get in office you have to compromise and then you have to sell your compromise

the Dems caved on healthecare and we got weak compromise and Obama has to go out and polish that turd

that's the way it works

isn't it about time in this thread that you post some pics of Michell Obama or some similar shit that you do?

Ha ha ha - I know how it works - but what you refuse to accept is that Obama ran as something different - CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. 

Had he run and won as a retail pol, thats one thing.   But people are utterly discontented with the flood of lies and deciet.   

[Straw Man]

Ha ha ha - I know how it works - but what you refuse to accept is that Obama ran as something different - CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. 

Had he run and won as a retail pol, thats one thing.   But people are utterly discontented with the flood of lies and deciet.   

as usual

you can't process reality

not much more I can do to help you with that

[Soul Crusher]

as usual

you can't process reality

not much more I can do to help you with that

Maybe you have not seen the polls to where obamacare is polling as worse as ever? 

[Straw Man]

Maybe you have not seen the polls to where obamacare is polling as worse as ever? 

you mean those polls which confirm people are less informed now about it than they were a year ago

I exclude you of course because I don't think you could get less informed

[Soul Crusher]

you mean those polls which confirm people are less informed now about it than they were a year ago

I exclude you of course because I don't think you could get less informed

See - this is where you are clueless.   Obama told people their premiums would go down!   

Premiums are skyrocketing and they blame him based on his bullshit promises.   

[Straw Man]

See - this is where you are clueless.   Obama told people their premiums would go down!   

Premiums are skyrocketing and they blame him based on his bullshit promises.   

you aware (of course not) that virtually none of the legislation has gone into effect

why don't you find something else to belly ache about for the time being

[Soul Crusher]

you aware (of course not) that virtually none of the legislation has gone into effect

why don't you find something else to belly ache about for the time being

And you think that premiums will go down when even more burdens are put on carriers? 


LMFAO! 

[Straw Man]

And you think that premiums will go down when even more burdens are put on carriers? 
LMFAO! 

what burdens you're talking about

you mean the 30 million new customers that will buy private insurance?

[Soul Crusher]

what burdens you're talking about

you mean the 30 million new customers that will buy private insurance?

They are not going to buy shit!   Straw - this is why you need immediate help. 


Say the fine is $2k a year, but now the cheapest policy is 6k a year as a result of all the mandates.


Guess what happens, especially in times of economic depression ?   

[Straw Man]

They are not going to buy shit!   Straw - this is why you need immediate help. 


Say the fine is $2k a year, but now the cheapest policy is 6k a year as a result of all the mandates.


Guess what happens, especially in times of economic depression ?   

haven't you learned anything

you know your #'s don't mean shit providng a source

surely you have a source right?

[Soul Crusher]

haven't you learned anything

you know your #'s don't mean shit providng a source

surely you have a source right?

Its fucking reality, especially since they can't turn away pre-existing conditions.    why should anyone buy insurance until they get sick?


This whole scam and scheme is one of the most idiotic things I could ever imagine.  Legally, mathmatically, realistically, etc obamacare is one of the most inane and warped plans i have ever heard of.   


If I gave you $2 million dollars and told you to come up with a worse plan a month from now than obamacare - you could not possibly come up with anything as fiscally unsound and bogus as obamacare.