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CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« on: June 07, 2011, 12:49:37 PM »
Props to Bobby for droppin some truth.  Just listened to his rant on PBW.  I took the liberty of quoting this.

"To be quite frank, People do rely on gear too much.  They rely on diuretics too much.  They rely on a lot of different things and thats NOT the way it was designed to be".

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 12:55:40 PM »
Thats a rather pointless thing to say as 100 percent of all the Pro Competitors rely on drugs and diuretics 100 percent of the time.


Sometimes he says the absolutely dumbest things ever.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 12:59:43 PM »
Thats a rather pointless thing to say as 100 percent of all the Pro Competitors rely on drugs and diuretics 100 percent of the time.


Sometimes he says the absolutely dumbest things ever.

You're comprehension is that of a 4 year old.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 01:01:34 PM »
haha Chick himself was all drugs.

even now, long past his last show, you think he's been clean?

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 01:02:11 PM »
Props to Bobby for droppin some truth.  Just listened to his rant on PBW.  I took the liberty of quoting this.

"To be quite frank, People do rely on gear too much.  They rely on diuretics too much.  They rely on a lot of different things and thats NOT the way it was designed to be".

- Athletes Rep B. Chick
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I agree 100%. If I've said once I've said it a million times, today's pro's rely on gear more so that actual training that's why 90% are lazy in the gym. If they weren't on gear they wouldn't train.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 01:02:52 PM »
You're comprehension is that of a 4 year old.
So there are natural Pro Bodybuilders actively competing in the IFBB?   ???

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »
haha Chick himself was all drugs.

even now, long past his last show, you think he's been clean?

Like me, I'm sure he's been on and off over the years and when he's off he retains good size. A sign that he was never a heavy user. He's still big and still looks healthy. Have you ever seen Bob small? Something gh15 doesn't quite understand.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 01:07:58 PM »
Like me, I'm sure he's been on and off over the years and when he's off he retains good size. A sign that he was never a heavy user. He's still big and still looks healthy. Have you ever seen Bob small? Something gh15 doesn't quite understand.

Since the age of 20 or so, what's the longest stretch of time do you think Bob had gone without using?

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 01:08:15 PM »
So there are natural Pro Bodybuilders actively competing in the IFBB?   ???

What?? That's not what was even remotely trying to get at.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 01:12:59 PM »
Setting a maximum amount of drug use is impossible.  I'd solve the problem by setting a maximum weight limit of 240 lbs.    

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 01:13:42 PM »
Do you get extra points if you train harder in the gym and use 5 % less gear?  ::)

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 01:15:07 PM »
Since the age of 20 or so, what's the longest stretch of time do you think Bob had gone without using?

Haven't a clue.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 01:15:59 PM »
I agree 100%. If I've said once I've said it a million times, today's pro's rely on gear more so that actual training that's why 90% are lazy in the gym. If they weren't on gear they wouldn't train.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 01:16:13 PM »
Isn't there gonna be a height class at the Arnold amateur supposedly for nats?

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 01:16:28 PM »
Says a man that will be as natural as anyone on the masters stage..

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2011, 01:17:49 PM »
Do you get extra points if you train harder in the gym and use 5 % less gear?  ::)
I think the point hes trying to make, is rather than diet the right way and do a proper contest prep, theyre lazy, and try and use diuretics and gear to try and drop the fat.
Often times using that extra gear and last minute drugs make the competitors look wayy shittier than ones that dieted religiously and didnt have to used drastic drug regimes to get into shape.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2011, 01:18:48 PM »
Do you get extra points if you train harder in the gym and use 5 % less gear?  ::)

yes.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2011, 01:19:06 PM »
I agree 100%. If I've said once I've said it a million times, today's pro's rely on gear more so that actual training that's why 90% are lazy in the gym. If they weren't on gear they wouldn't train.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2011, 01:20:05 PM »
yes.
Extra points by the way of a better looking physique.
You can instantly tell if someone did a shitty job on their diet and had to use a boatload of drugs to try and catch up and dry out.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2011, 01:22:13 PM »
Chick is dropping some serious knowledge lately

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2011, 01:53:24 PM »
Extra points by the way of a better looking physique.
You can instantly tell if someone did a shitty job on their diet and had to use a boatload of drugs to try and catch up and dry out.

It's getting worse all the time.  That's why Chad keeps saying that no one has been impressive this year.  Other than Evan and Flex, no one has looked like they put in the effort to really be prepared.   

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 02:03:04 PM »
Chick is spot on once again.


Half-assed pussified training, and cheating on "so called diets" are now the norm.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2011, 02:37:02 PM »
bodybuilding = 90% hormona , 5% training, 5% nutrition

in other words

no gear = no bodybuilder.

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2011, 02:40:29 PM »
Wrong. No training = no bodybuilder 90% drugs = lazy drug addict

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Re: CHICK SAYS: "People rely on gear too much!"
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2011, 03:52:18 PM »
I think the point hes trying to make, is rather than diet the right way and do a proper contest prep, theyre lazy, and try and use diuretics and gear to try and drop the fat.
Often times using that extra gear and last minute drugs make the competitors look wayy shittier than ones that dieted religiously and didnt have to used drastic drug regimes to get into shape.

While that's true...it runs much deeper than that.  In the old days, there wasn't much incentive money wise...so almost everyone did it for the love of the game and a title...over the years, the opportunities to actually make a living from the sport has become a reality, and for many, this has provided the blueprint to try and asend  the top as soon as possible...often by using faster methods.

in the " old days" there was a unwritten rule about advancing to bigger shows where by you needed to progress up the ladder by actually WINNING. Local, state, regional, jr. Nat, national....I remember Paul DeMayo going back to the Jr. nationals 3-4 times because he felt if he couldn't win the overall, then he wasn't prepared to be at the National Level...very smart and very realistic at the same time.

Trey Brewer comes to mind as a kid who had a great start, and some good promise....but a contract too soon and a program made for a 10 year veteran, not a rank amateur...insured that he would never reach that potential and faded out into obscurity in record time....sad.  I'll never forget seeing Trey sitting at a table at a National show with a stack of 8X10's to autograph...when the only title he had was the NPC Excalibur...a LOCAL show...here he was signing autographs like a superstar, when in reality, he couldn't have placed in the top 10 at the show he was sitting at!

This isn't meant to disrespect Tre in any way, he was and is a good kid...but he was managed completly wrong and thrown to the wolves with delusions of grandeur...

times have changed...some for the better, some...not so much.  Some of the competitors need to realize that jus because you qualified to compete nationally, doesn't mean you SHOULD compete nationally...