how is it hard to believe to go from 5'11 135 to 185 in a period of 4 years? OH, is it because most people don't have the dedication? I did the same shit, granted, bodybuilding was my LIFE, and i lived breathed and slept bodybuilding from 16-20, but still very possible. I just recently chose to go to the dark side because I figure I have a good base naturally at around 180, and everytime i was pushing 190 i became watery, not so much fat but held water and fat too probably but i was eating CLEAN and couldn't push past it, so i said fuck it lol. leaned out to 180 and the rest is just beginning.