insulin use for diabetic bodybuilder

[flinstones1]

I can never really figure out why I responded so well to slin. It still was a mystery to me. Afterall, 99% of guys who try it end up saying it's garbage. At first I was skeptical about it..I even bought me a bottle of humalin-R and never opened it round a year ago when I talked to Tbombz. And he was right, for most guys slin is complete garbage. 

Well around several months ago, I finally bit the bullet and ran R for a brief period of time just to try it. I was on a very moderate  dose steroid cycle and I put on muscle like crazy. . I'm not an idiot and can tell the dfference between muscle vs gycogen fullness and water storage. I used -R two shots a day 7 days a week. Never went over 10iu at one time and usually used between 4-6iu. See that is what puzzled me. Why would I respond to a non-suphraphysiological dose of insulin? Made no sense.

Fast forward to this week and I recently found out that I am pre diabetic. My fasting glucose is not above 126 but pretty damn close.  I am fairly lean  as well and am in good shape,so I guess it' just genetic as it runs in my family.,

I just dont grow well without insulin. Even on steroids.  Right now I'm on 100mg anadrol with some test-e. I added sliin last Tuesday and can already feel my body changing. Strength is flying. It almost seems like insulin puts the steroids to use with me. Also keep in mind I am a natural ectomorph so I don't produce alot of insulin naturally so that may be a factor as well.  It does not matter how many AAS I am on, without insulin use I shrink been there tried it.   I loose alot of muscle in my arms and legs..both places that are often skinny on diabetics. I think I have severe insulin resistance cause even when I eat carbs (without slin) I don't fill out like I should. I remember my arms growing over an 1 and half inch the first tme I used insulin. I mean iI know lots of guysaren' fans of it as it ruins their physique but oh well I need the shit..
Let me get some of your guys feedback an opinions... and I'll ask some questions. Kind of new to this whole diabetic thing.

thanks

[flinstones1]

hi flinstones1

when u on R 10iu dosage, hav u eva becam hypo? also r u use with any stim like modafinil caffeine aspirin etc?

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how is ur face? i fear ballooned face.

my face is bloated as shit. I know Lesaucer said something about slin causing sodium retention as well. Never became hypo, but I never really gone over 6 IU more than a couple times. Lots of guys think they are going hypo from drinking all those damn carbs . Personally I only use 5grams of carbs per IU of slin and am fine. 10g carbs per iu is a myth and is not necessary IME.

[chess315]

one of the number one illness in america is diabeties so it stand to reason many people have fucked up insulin levels many ethnic groups are at increased risk so if your not making gains a little slin I am sure could work wonders just like correcting low test or igf1 levels

[lesaucer]

my face is bloated as shit. I know Lesaucer said something about slin causing sodium retention as well. Never became hypo, but I never really gone over 6 IU more than a couple times. Lots of guys think they are going hypo from drinking all those damn carbs . Personally I only use 5grams of carbs per IU of slin and am fine. 10g carbs per iu is a myth and is not necessary IME.

yes it cause epic water and sodium retention everywhere, which is good but not in the face! what i do now after alot of trials is 5 days on, 15iu in the morning and after workout. and take the weekend off. takes only 2 days and everything is back to normal, can start again 

[local hero]

lesaucer... has it realy improved you much then, do you think its worth the risk,,, im still yet to use, always curious about it tho

[lesaucer]

lesaucer... has it realy improved you much then, do you think its worth the risk,,, im still yet to use, always curious about it tho

yes, great improvement from slin for me! imo yes its worth the risk, diabetic dont get any sides from slin, only thing that ''could'' happen logicly is you become slin dependant (diabetic), but even after massive fucking crazy abuse of the stuff from pro bbers, i never heard about even a single one of them becoming diabetic. eat your carbs when you take it and its gtg.. for fucks sake i used to love going hypo intentionaly, you are so hungry food taste 5 times better, but you will also eat 2 times more without feeling stuffed, plus it gives you a cool buzz haha, but dont do that its dangerous

[local hero]

i can get fat just looking at a bowl of pasta,, not just the insulin related death that scares me , was the fat gain.. i suppose this is where the larger doses of gh come into play

[lesaucer]

i can get fat just looking at a bowl of pasta,, not just the insulin related death that scares me , was the fat gain.. i suppose this is where the larger doses of gh come into play

no bro, only water and glycogen that get off 2 days after stopping, but i also keep fat intake as low as possible when slin is in my system so i guess this help alot

[local hero]

i usualy train around 7.30 pm,,, if i shot before training, would it be out my system for bedtime 11 ish?

[lesaucer]

i usualy train around 7.30 pm,,, if i shot before training, would it be out my system for bedtime 11 ish?

depend what kind ur using i guess, im using humalog, intramuscular so its out even faster! as long as you get your carbs in you can go to bed..but again im not an expert lol

[flinstones1]

bump..gotta be some diabetic bodybuilders out there? Where's Lee Priest and my boy Kev?