Drugs are just the finishing touch!

[Chick]

so as long as one doesn't have horrible genes & structure and one Trains, Rests and Eats properly,
you agree that professional bodybuilding is All Drugs and Genetic Response to Drugs?

If that were the case...why train or diet or do endless hours of cardio?

The common denominator, which idiots like yourself cant seem to comprehend....is that no one trains like they do when in their prime, or competing days....they also dont do the drugs, diet like they did...no different than any other athlete...which is why you see guys who are former football players who look like a shadow of their former self after they retire...

If you dont train, eat, or supplement to look like a 250 lb bodybuilder..you wont look like a 250 lb. bodybuilder...pretty simple to understand.  For most....

[Brocty]

and size, dominating other people who dont inject steroids and lift weights with your sheer muscle mass, is important for those who are short / have tiny penis / no education / no money.

Funny, last time I checked i'm 6 feet tall, have a fucking degree, make decent cash and I wont bother to mention your other point of theory.  Atta boy for playing into stereotypical bullshit..

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Jeff Willet then and now...

wow

[njflex]

SHaron Marvel then and now

seen her train yrs ago early 90's mrs o run,inclined 80 lb dumbells,legs were sick in person.

[jude2]

REST
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the fella who put this pictures just did one of the most important posting in the bible ,,

bible index

gh15 approved

You just scored big on this one. Jeff Willet is a lair. Look how small he is now. If he was really natural he would hold onto alot more size. You can seee he has access to the same supps since he isworking for AST in that pic. I quess the quality of AST turned to SHIT. HAHAHAHA

[Devon97]

If that were the case...why train or diet or do endless hours of cardio?

The common denominator, which idiots like yourself cant seem to comprehend....is that no one trains like they do when in their prime, or competing days....they also dont do the drugs, diet like they did...no different than any other athlete...which is why you see guys who are former football players who look like a shadow of their former self after they retire...

If you dont train, eat, or supplement to look like a 250 lb bodybuilder..you wont look like a 250 lb. bodybuilder...pretty simple to understand.  For most....

You really think todays pros do endless hrs of cardio?
Most pros do very little

You really think they eat like a Spartan for 12 + weeks?
Most pros still have fast food up until a couple weeks out.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

The Willet ones are indeed crazy. I take it he is done competing?

[Chick]

You really think todays pros do endless hrs of cardio?
Most pros do very little

You really think they eat like a Spartan for 12 + weeks?
Most pros still have fast food up until a couple weeks out.

LOL...ok

[EwaBeachBoy]

The Willet ones are indeed crazy. I take it he is done competing?

I am not sure...but he still does expos promoting AST supplements

[jude2]

I am not sure...but he still does expos promoting AST supplements

Yeah he must not be taking their products anymore 

[el numero uno]

Jeff Willet then and now...

Fucking liar

[el numero uno]

"Most complete Mr. O ever." 

[20inch calves]

Jean Pierre Fux was fuck all pre 1996.

I was once sat with Paul Borresen and Jean Pierre, at Pauls homes, back in 1994 (JP had just done the IFBB Worlds and Paul was outlining a few cycles).

At that time, JPF was a 'small' bodybuilder, he was weighed by Paul at 224lb. Nobody predicted the transformation that was to occur (under the auspice of Borresen and his crazy prescription.

I recall Paul broke out a 50ml bottle from the drawer of his office desk, and proceeded to outline a regime to JP based upon 5000mg per day [FIVE THOUSAND) of various injectable anabolics, a regime - the global promotion by 1998 of which - Paul was nigh on single handedly responsible.

In retrospect, this would be the same cycle structure that Paul would prescribe to (amongst others) both Svend Karlsen (again, of which I personally witnessed) and Ian Harrison, Ian of whom, halfed the doses.

Christ, those times were the best; now where are we? 2011 and the game is full of dullards,and dickheads.

Ah well.

paul borreson did in fact outline cycles like this but they were only 30days in length followed by time off. i am not sure if a pro would come off though. the cycles would be blast cycles high doses..the logic was that load high and stop before you got all the unwanted side effects

[20inch calves]

If that were the case...why train or diet or do endless hours of cardio?

The common denominator, which idiots like yourself cant seem to comprehend....is that no one trains like they do when in their prime, or competing days....they also dont do the drugs, diet like they did...no different than any other athlete...which is why you see guys who are former football players who look like a shadow of their former self after they retire...

If you dont train, eat, or supplement to look like a 250 lb bodybuilder..you wont look like a 250 lb. bodybuilder...pretty simple to understand.  For most....

i agree. all athletes change physique wise when they stop competing. but bbing is visual and its harder for people not to criticize a retired bber for looking small ect. in my mind i think its smart to go down like jp did for health reasons. i mean why be huge..if you arent competing

[booty]

The worst Ms Olympia ever. 

[el numero uno]

They actually look pretty good when they're off the sauce.

[L.L]

whats your IQ again, genius?

LOL!!..speaking of geniuses.

[gh15]

you really think kim is off there? lol do you know how this thing would look like if it went off cold out of blue ? there would be nothing left inside or out,, she would have been broken mes,, she just did a sagi kalev...and went fitnes lol,, comon fellas you are smarter than this

testosterona...trenbolon a...masterona...gh...

changed to

oxandrolona...low dose gh ...to get girly fitness figure that can pull in every day life,, she would have been broken to pieces with out those hormones in blood after the mutant she became,,

wanna see off? look into mustaf

gh15 approved

[el numero uno]

you really think kim is off there? lol do you know how this thing would look like if it went off cold out of blue ? there would be nothing left inside or out,, she would have been broken mes,, she just did a sagi kalev...and went fitnes lol,, comon fellas you are smarter than this

testosterona...trenbolon a...masterona...gh...

changed to

oxandrolona...low dose gh ...to get girly fitness figure that can pull in every day life,, she would have been broken to pieces with out those hormones in blood after the mutant she became,,

wanna see off? look into mustaf

gh15 approved

That's even better, they look like a normal girl with the libido of a roided up girl.

[booty]

you really think kim is off there? lol do you know how this thing would look like if it went off cold out of blue ? there would be nothing left inside or out,, she would have been broken mes,, she just did a sagi kalev...and went fitnes lol,, comon fellas you are smarter than this

testosterona...trenbolon a...masterona...gh...

changed to

oxandrolona...low dose gh ...to get girly fitness figure that can pull in every day life,, she would have been broken to pieces with out those hormones in blood after the mutant she became,,

wanna see off? look into mustaf

gh15 approved

She was a mutant alright.  Womens bodybuilding took a big dive in popularity when she was winning. 

[njflex]

She was a mutant alright.  Womens bodybuilding took a big dive in popularity when she was winning. 

she looked insane ,,,chad took her and mutated her into another level.

[tom joad]

If that were the case...why train or diet or do endless hours of cardio?

The common denominator, which idiots like yourself cant seem to comprehend....is that no one trains like they do when in their prime, or competing days....they also dont do the drugs, diet like they did...no different than any other athlete...which is why you see guys who are former football players who look like a shadow of their former self after they retire...

If you dont train, eat, or supplement to look like a 250 lb bodybuilder..you wont look like a 250 lb. bodybuilder...pretty simple to understand.  For most....

too weak to train without drugs, and don't bother cuz they know that their physiques were built on drugs from day one.

[Jaime]

Chick is an idiot. If you have great genetics then you dont look like shit and lose all of your mass and lines because you dont train as hard.

Chick is from the same stable as Cutler, just a fatboy with elephant joints off the gear.

[MB]

Labrada looks as good as a retired BB can look.  But, he's training, eating, and juicing as if he's still competing.  Anyone who thinks a 50 year old retired pro should look good without even training anymore is dreaming.  If you take your foot off the gas, your body will change, especially when you're fighting age at the same time. 

[notsureifsrs]

Chick is an idiot. If you have great genetics then you dont look like shit and lose all of your mass and lines because you dont train as hard.

Chick is from the same stable as Cutler, just a fatboy with elephant joints off the gear.

What kind of genetics you are talking about?