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Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« on: June 14, 2011, 08:41:22 AM »
Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment



President Obama explained to NBC News that the reason companies aren't hiring are not because of his policies, it's because the economy is so automated. ... "There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."


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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 10:13:48 AM »
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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 10:45:10 AM »
So when unmployment was 5 percent during the GWB years, is he saying there were no ATM machines around? 

What about Germany and ther places where there is less UE?    Do they not have ATM's? 


And you moron libs call this guy smart?    L M F A O ! ! !       

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 10:56:46 AM »
Another thing - Obama keeps pushing green tech and regulation at the expense of existing jobs in coal, gas, oil, etc.   

Funny he didnt mention that inhi crying about the UE rate. 


What a fucking joke.  And you clowns have the balls to call Palin dumb?    Please.    Obama makes beetlejuice look like Einstein in comparison.   

 

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 10:58:16 AM »
I wonder if Obama laments the invention of the automobile at the expense of buggy makers. 

What a fool.

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 06:08:10 PM »
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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 09:12:15 PM »
What do chicks that do ass to mouth have to do with unemployment?

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 12:15:13 AM »
What does chicks that do ass to mouth have to do with unemployment?

I didn't want to be the the guy who introduced this into the thread, but yeah...

A2M chicks... hot or not?

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 04:22:50 AM »
This is clearly the dumbest potus of all time.

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 05:28:13 AM »
Beatable, And He Knows It
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President Obama pauses Monday during a tour at Cree, a leading manufacturer of energy-efficient LED lighting. AP View Enlarged Image
Politics: The president jokes about unemployment and says ATM machines kill jobs. Mean-while, one of his top aides says 2012 voters should avoid "affixing blame." Sounds to us like someone who knows he's in trouble.

The Republican National Committee could not have scripted a more damning sound bite. President Obama on Monday attended his administration's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness at an enviro-friendly lighting firm in North Carolina. Considering the dismal state of the economy, it should have been a subdued event.

But when it was explained to the president that the federal permit process for construction and infrastructure projects can cause delays ranging from "months to years," and "in many cases even cause projects to be abandoned," a gaffe ensued.

It was remarked to the president, "I'm sure that when you implemented the Recovery Act, your staff briefed you on many of these challenges." A smiling Obama responded, "shovel-ready was not as . .. uh ... shovel-ready as we expected."

Even the staging couldn't have been more hurtful. Big signs reading "Jobs Council" loomed above him and adorned the desk at which he sat. After the president's quip, members of his "Jobs Council," led by his friend, General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt, laughed heartily.

During the event, the president asked, "How do we deal with making sure our regulations make sense, so that we start eliminating ones that don't work, aren't making consumers better off or aren't improving our quality of life?"

Was that a joke too? Shouldn't the president have known the answer to that question before running for president — not nearly 2 1/2 years into his term of office? Start eliminating defective, job-destroying regs? Start that process this late in the game?

If the president's joke wasn't funny to the nearly 2 million Americans who had jobs when Obama signed the Democrats' $800 billion stimulus into law, but don't have jobs today — or the other 12 million unemployed Americans — his ATM crack is even less amusing.

"The other thing that happened," the president claimed in an NBC "Today Show" interview Tuesday, "is there are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers.

"You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM. You don't go to a bank teller. Or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."

ATMs and automatic check-ins were invented since the stimulus? They weren't around when the country was enjoying 4.5% unemployment under George W. Bush? It's a socialist fairy tale to blame automation for killing jobs; it's always brought new jobs because it lets businesses expand faster.

In 1963, AFL-CIO president George Meany similarly called automation "a curse" and "a real threat" that "could bring us to national catastrophe." But automation reduced the price of any and every type of manufactured good, and made more wealth available for new projects and new jobs. Has the U.S. economy of the last half-century been a "catastrophe"?

No wonder former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told CNN on Monday that the 2012 election shouldn't be about "affixing blame" for the economy. And no wonder Obama says his family is "not invested in daddy being president."

For someone whose ideas have failed and who is incapable of considering better ones, he seems to know that more time with the family is an idea the voters may take him up on.


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This has got to be the dumbest person to ever hold elective office.     

I can only imagine what people who deal with him day to day must think. 

Blaming ATM machines for his problems? 

ha ha ha ha!!!!!

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 06:09:39 AM »
HAHAHAHAH!!! But, hey, he was an editor in Harvard.

Just because a person is book smart and can memorize anything to the point that he or she can spew them out at any moment doesn't mean they have the mental capacity to think logically and critically to find effective solutions to certain problems.

Intelligence is not the same as wisdom. A person can have a lot of knowledge but not be able to adequately apply that knowledge.

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 08:37:51 AM »
Is there so much Automation now than there was in 2008?

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 08:40:02 AM »
Is there so much Automation now than there was in 2008?

Are there no ATM Machines in countries with lower uneployment?
 

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 09:04:15 AM »
Barack Obama Thinks an ATM Ate Your Job
http://www.redstate.com ^ | JUne 15 2011 | E.Erickson


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Obama gave away the game. Without actually using the words, Barack Obama admitted he is completely and utterly ignorant about job creation and economics. In an interview with the Today Show, Barack Obama declared that the unemployment rate remains so high because of ATMS.

For starters, this Obama comment really is odd when he wants the government to subsidize the production of electric cars, which would destroy whole sectors of the economy centered around gas fueled cars. If he believes ATM’s destroy jobs, why does he want to subsidize government innovation in green jobs, which would destroy other jobs? Of course, the answer to that is that he wants to destroy the other sectors.

What’s more troubling about Barack Obama’s statement though — and the White House doubling down on it — is that it leads to one of two conclusions, both of which are horribly wrong.

The first conclusion is that we should get rid of technology, declaring a veritable Butlerian Jihad. Doing so would cause companies to allocate resources more inefficiently, which might increase the labor pool in one sector of the economy, but assuredly wipe it out in another.

The second conclusion is that we must settle for this. It is arguable that we are in a period of stagnation with regard to innovation, invention, and technological progress. But settling for this as fact will most likely lead the government to take public policy steps to strengthen and expand the social safety net to compensate for lost jobs than to get government out of the way and fire up the private sector to move beyond the stagnation and innovation plateau.

We can see already that Barack Obama has decided to go with the second option — to accept a decline and prepare for the decay caused by the decline instead of taking proactive steps to get the economy firing up again.

Barack Obama shows himself to be clearly ignorant of the way a free market economy works and innovates. Consequently, his economy policy is founded on that ignorance, accepts as gospel the decline of the United States, and, until he is replaced, we’re screwed.

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 12:31:37 PM »
Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment



President Obama explained to NBC News that the reason companies aren't hiring are not because of his policies, it's because the economy is so automated. ... "There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."


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He was making a comparision of the economy being too automated like ATM machines and he is right.  Some parts of the economy needs to have a hands on approach rather than be automated.  There's nothing in the report that says that he was blaming ATM machines for the economy and only a complete dumass would believe that type of journalistic distortion.
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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 12:33:54 PM »
No he's not right! 

Are you freaking nuts? 

ATM machines add billions in liquidity for cash businesses that never used to exist.   

Should we do away with backhoes?  What about tractors?     


Damn you are beyond stupid to defend this. 

This is Econ 101 for fucks sake! 

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 12:45:53 PM »
The Curse of Machinery
http://mises.org/books/economics_in_one_lesson_hazlitt.pdf




Read the freaking chapter and learn something for fucks sake.  No wonder our nation is in the dire mess it is with such ridiculous beliefs. 

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 12:50:02 PM »

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2011, 12:52:47 PM »
No he's not right! 

Are you freaking nuts? 

ATM machines add billions in liquidity for cash businesses that never used to exist.   

Should we do away with backhoes?  What about tractors?     


Damn you are beyond stupid to defend this. 

This is Econ 101 for fucks sake! 


Again, his statement had nothing to do with ATM machines.  He stated that some of the problems in the economy were due to elements of it being automated like an ATM machine.

Point blank, he didn't say anything about blaming ATM's for unemployment...... ::)
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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2011, 12:56:13 PM »

Again, his statement had nothing to do with ATM machines.  He stated that some of the problems in the economy were due to elements of it being automated like an ATM machine.

Point blank, he didn't say anything about blaming ATM's for unemployment...... ::)


And he is fucking dead wrong!   This is Econ 101, something he knows nothing about.     

By his idiotic reasoning, we should do away with tractors, back hoes, and jack hammers, since they put laborers out of work.

What about autombiles?  They put buggy makers out of business no? 


If you don't see how utterly insane and inept this fool is on these issues, well, you never will.     

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2011, 05:36:02 PM »
That's a bad example using ATMs but the automation bitch is legit.  I've been complaining about it for a long ass time.  I don't think it has anything to do with the ressesion unless he's blaming the banks for not taking out the ATMs just to hire people.  In the last couple years they have expanded what you can do at an ATM so that might be a small point. 

I hate the self checkout shit in stores.  The way I see it, they're asking you to work for the store without being paid.  They hire less because you're there doing the work they would have paid someone to do, what's wrong with this picture?  The first time you saw Home Depot or any other store put in a bunch of self checkout lanes and layoff people did you see the prices drop?  nope...  When they close a plant here in America and open one in China do you see the prices drop?  nope... profit profit profit...

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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2011, 07:34:55 PM »
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Obama vs. the Economy-killing Machines!
Written by Jim Funkhouser Uncategorized Jun 15, 2011

Barack Hussein Obama Jr.
Obama better pray that one of his devoted fans doesn’t shoot up an ATM tomorrow… But I digress.
Let’s go straight to the horse’s mouth, shall we?
Obama, yesterday: “A lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don’t go to a bank teller or you go to the airport and you’re using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate.”
Is the President of the United States trying to jumpstart the buggy whip manufacturers?
Wait a minute though… At first blush his comment seems ridiculous, but maybe he’s on to something after all. Maybe we’re just too stupid to understand? He is our first President with an IQ over 160 after all (according to an idiot I overheard on a TV show).  
I forsee a whole new industry based on stagecoaches and horse-drawn drayage… This might actually work! Obama! You magnificent bastard! You’re a genius! How did we not see the solution when it was right in front of us all the time? 
This must be Obama’s secret new plan… Check it out:
If we could eliminate tractor-trailers, then we would need millions of wagons, horses, and assorted accoutremount to transport our food, clothing, etc.  All of those horses would need farriers, stall-cleaners, and veterinarians…  Think of the jobs that would be created building the wagons, manufacturing tack for horses, and of course, buggy-whip shops would spring up overnight throughout the land!
Heck, you would have to build huge horse barns at the edge of every major city in America. Think of the construction jobs! And once they finish building the state-of-art, eco-friendly horse hotels, the laborers could start training immediately to drive the Clydesdale-powered carriages across America!
Think of this: To haul what the average 18-wheeler hauls would probably require 10 or 15 horse-drawn wagons, and they go so slow it would take weeks just to get from Chicago to New York. All of those drivers have to sleep at night! The motel business will skyrocket! 
And the horse over-population problem in the West would be solved overnight! We wouldn’t need to kill horses anymore! As a matter of fact, we would probably have to start importing horses! And the horses have to eat, so America’s farmers would have an enormous new market to service.  
And all of those worthless kiosks and ATMs? Hollow ‘em out and make horse troughs out of ‘em. Horses have to drink, right?
Obama’s vision for America, finally revealed in all of its technicolor glory: 
You tie your horse up to the hitching post at your local bank, dismount carefully, and walk inside. You’ll get to talk to a real live human being. And when you throw your saddle-bags on the counter so the teller can fill ‘em up with federal reserve notes, y’all can talk about the price of corn, or the latest bridle technology, or a new tip on how to keep your horse from bucking. 
Wouldn’t that be better than waiting in line at a dehumanizing drive-thru?
I will never doubt my President








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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 10:12:53 AM »
ATM industry not happy about Obama comments
Washington Examiner ^ | 06/15/11 | Philip Klein






The Automated Teller Machine industry is not happy about President Obama's comments that the development of ATMs has cost jobs. Here's a sampling of some of the feedback I've been getting.

Mike Lee, CEO of the ATM Industry Association, emailed me the following response:


‘President Obama should never use ATMs as an example of how technology replaces human labor because ATMs today play a critical role in providing extensive employment in the ATM and cash-in-transit industries. In addition, ATMs provide an indispensible range of services to customers, including all-hours access to their own banked cash. With over 400,000 in America alone, ATMs have become the main distribution channel for the distribution of cash in all modern economies and cash remains by far the most popular form of payment by US consumers. The whole purpose of the invention of the ATM back in 1967 was to make cash available outside of bank hours, liberating citizens to access their banked money 24 x 7, a huge increase in convenience.  Given these major roles of the ATM, it would be quite irrational to turn the clock back to the 1960s to a time before ATMs.

Aimee Leeper, a spokeswoman for ATM manufacturer Triton Systems, which makes its machines in America and employees 200 people here, told me over the phone, "We're not in the business of taking American jobs. What I wish President Obama had thought of is that people want convenient access to their money. How crazy is that?"



























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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 10:20:59 AM »

Yeah... perish the thought that people should have access to THEIR money when THEY want it. Or perish the thought that a company should want to reduce THEIR salary overhead at the same time as giving customers 24/7 access to their own money.  Obama would no doubt have preferred that banks have 24/7 staffing (to handle the customers' need for access to their money outside banking hours), thus adding workers at the expense of profit and efficiency.  And then moan when banks increase their fees to cover the added overhead.

This is a classic example of someone ignorant of true cost accounting -- in this case, Obama -- making uninformed comments. More people have found jobs in the ATM industry (mechanics, programmers, manufacturing, transportation, engineers, to name but some) than have ever been put out of work by ATMs.

On a deeper level, however, this points to another problem. If Obama uttered this foolishnness as an off-the-cuff comment, then he's truly ignorant of how the market works. If his statement was part of a prepared speech, then his staff is incompetent and likewise ignorant.  Or he was just pandering to Labor.

I'll take "all the above" for $400, Alex.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/06/atm-industry-not-happy-about-obama-comments#ixzz1PScjl26j


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Re: Obama Blames ATMs for High Unemployment - Video
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 05:22:14 AM »
Obama vs. ATMs: Why Technology Doesn't Destroy Jobs
Doing more with less is what economic growth is all about.
By RUSSELL ROBERTS
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304070104576399704275939640.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop





The story goes that Milton Friedman was once taken to see a massive government project somewhere in Asia. Thousands of workers using shovels were building a canal. Friedman was puzzled. Why weren't there any excavators or any mechanized earth-moving equipment? A government official explained that using shovels created more jobs. Friedman's response: "Then why not use spoons instead of shovels?"

That story came to mind last week when President Obama linked technology to job losses. "There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers," he said. "You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."

The president calls this a structural issue—we usually call it progress. And it isn't exactly a new phenomenon. It's been going on for centuries, and its pace has accelerated over the past 50 years. Businesses relentlessly look for ways to replace workers with machines. The machines get better and smarter. We go from spoons to shovels to excavators, not the other way around.

Telephone switchboard operators lose jobs to automated switching. Toll collectors get replaced by E-ZPass. Auto workers get replaced by robots.

The magnitudes are stunning. As the Washington Post reported in 2007:

"The textile industry has been particularly aggressive in replacing people with machines. A half-century ago, a typical North Carolina textile worker operated five machines at once, each capable of running a thread through a loom at 100 times a minute. Now machines run six times as fast, and one worker oversees 100 of them."

That's a 120-fold increase in output per worker. When a worker is 120 times more productive, you usually don't need as many workers as you did before.

Or look at eggs. Today, a couple of workers can manage an egg-laying operation of almost a million chickens laying 240,000,000 eggs a year. How can two people pick up those eggs or feed those chickens or keep them healthy with medication? They can't. The hen house does the work—it's really smart. The two workers keep an eye on a highly mechanized, computerized process that would have been unimaginable 50 years ago.

But should we call this progress? In a sense it sounds like a deal with the devil. Replace workers with machines in the name of lower costs. Profits rise. Repeat. It's a wonder unemployment is only 9.1%. Shouldn't the economy put people ahead of profits?

Well, it does. The savings from higher productivity don't just go to the owners of the textile factory or the mega hen house who now have lower costs of doing business. Lower costs don't always mean higher profits. Or not for long. Those lower costs lead to lower prices as businesses compete with each other to appeal to consumers.

The result is a higher standard of living for consumers. The average worker has to work fewer and fewer hours to earn enough money to buy a dozen eggs or a pair of shoes or a flat-screen TV or a new car that's safer and gets better mileage than the cars of yesteryear. That higher standard of living comes from technology. It isn't just the rich who get cheaper TVs and cars, plus the convenience of using an ATM at midnight.

Somehow, new jobs get created to replace the old ones. Despite losing millions of jobs to technology and to trade, even in a recession we have more total jobs than we did when the steel and auto and telephone and food industries had a lot more workers and a lot fewer machines.

Why do new jobs get created? When it gets cheaper to make food and clothing, there are more resources and people available to create new products that didn't exist before. Fifty years ago, the computer industry was tiny. It was able to expand because we no longer had to have so many workers connecting telephone calls. So many job descriptions exist today that didn't even exist 15 or 20 years ago. That's only possible when technology makes workers more productive.

It's true, there are some structural issues in the labor market. New jobs are being created but not at the usual pace and not fast enough to soak up the unemployed. But President Obama is wrong to blame innovation. A bigger problem is housing, where hundreds of thousands of workers have lost their jobs. The source of that problem isn't technology but an over-reaching housing policy and distorted finance. The solution is to let the housing market clear—let interest rates rise, stop subsidizing mortgages, and clean up the foreclosure mess. That would let housing starts return to something like normal.

The other challenge is simply confidence. Businesses aren't hiring because they're uneasy about the future. There's no easy way to instill confidence, but we know how to kill it—create uncertainty about taxes and regulations. Reducing that uncertainty would certainly help.

In the meanwhile, enjoy the ATM machine and the kiosk at the airport with a clear conscience. Doing more with less is the road to prosperity. When confidence returns, even more Americans will share in the bounty from innovation.

Mr. Roberts is a professor of economics at George Mason University and a research fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution.



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