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Re: Just 3 anadrol a day..........
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2011, 09:54:25 AM »
I think I got gh15 on the anadrol bandwagon he is now mentioning it along side trenbolona, eqiopona, testerona

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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2011, 10:41:15 AM »
I think I got gh15 on the anadrol bandwagon he is now mentioning it along side trenbolona, eqiopona, testerona

I think he forgets about stuff sometimes, needs a reminder now and again. Advancing age most likely.  ;D

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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2011, 11:30:34 AM »
false. dbol is harder on the liver than anadrol

Nope, the hepa toxicity of Oxymetholone is the highest of all oral steroids. There are plenty of studies stating this.

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« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2011, 11:47:49 AM »
This was 12 years ago, 1999, legit Anapolon from Turkey, silver foil blister packs, if you think anadrol and tren are not harsh then you're crazy :)  those are the two harshest steroids (side effect wise) that exist.


what else exactly aside from trenbolona add you 1/2-1 inch on arms in a matter of coupel weeks? only anapolon and trenbolona and even trenbolona is more hardening effect and drying effect and over all quality effect,, but when it come to actualy muscle diameter size...what other drug aside from anapolona/legit anadrola,,what other drug aside from this make you grow in size of muscle while remaining same body weight or higher?

the only drug who get you to increase muscle to a point you look in the mirror and say SHIT IM THICKER IN THE RIGHT PLACES ,,the only drug who you take 100-150mg of it and you wake up 3 day later with 18 inch arm insted of 17.5 inch arm.... is anadrola,, legit anadrola,,that drug blow you up from the inside out...its not like you wake up with extra size on waist....no no friend,, you wake up with abds pushing out.....waist tight and dense...and muscles that not only appear bigger but are! bigger,, you look to the left look to the right and smile because you know that you grew you can see it!  thats why we love anadrola so much and with testosterona and with equipona and with hgh and with trenbolona when needed trenbolona ....it creates big time professionals,,

we love absolitly love anadrola when low bodyfat because iti work the muscle from within,, the best SEO and it look real! because it is REAL anabolic steroid muscle builder,,

100mg of anapolona make bgi diff on physiqe...200-300mg creates dillets along with other compounds but the anapolona is there bgi time my friend


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Re: Just 3 anadrol a day..........
« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2011, 01:48:42 PM »
Nope, the hepa toxicity of Oxymetholone is the highest of all oral steroids. There are plenty of studies stating this.


I don't think so. Anadrol is most known for the correlation with peliosis hepatitis - blood filled cysts within the liver (not that this can't happen with other orals too). These are mostly benign and go away once you drop the drug. Problem is that this may not show through blood work, so a cyst might rupture and you could die from blood loss. As far as liver enzyme elevations, there's studies showing little to no enzyme elevations from 100mg/drol/day for six months. And then there's studies showing signs of liver stress on much lower Anavar doses, supposedly the most liver friendly oral out there... I mean it's used on alcoholics with cirrhotic livers.

Let me ask you this. Let's say you had to either take 100mg of Halotestin for six months or 100mg of Anadrol? Are you confident the Halo would stress the liver less? I don't know which would be worse but I'd pick the Anadrol to run for 6 months (mostly based on a hunch).

BTW, Patrick Arnold says Superdrol is an extremely liver toxic oral, much worse than Anadrol. M1T was another liver killer, again worse than all the steroids that have been used in medicine in the US.

Here's the article I mentioned on another page. It's neither pro-anadrol or against but shows how studies haven't always shown it to be very toxic. It's mainly studies on HIV+ patients though.

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Gorilla Steroid Anadrol Returns To U.S.A.
by Michael Mooney (from Medibolics, V. 2, N. 2, November, 1998. See also Anadrol Update July, 1999 below.)

With the publication of the HIV study (Henge, 1996) that employed the oral anabolic steroid called oxymetholone (see the May 1996 issue of Medibolics), the stage was set for oxymetholone's return to the U.S. market. Trade-named Anadrol-50, oxymetholone is the world's most powerful oral anabolic steroid. Unimed Pharmaceuticals (Buffalo Grove, Ill.) announced that Anadrol will return in January of 1998, and ads have already been appearing in the U.S. HIV press. While we welcome access to another anabolic steroid for HIV use, especially one that is so effective for lean body mass increases, it is best to express our reservations, and call your attention to some potential points of interest about Anadrol-50's possible use by HIV-positive people.

First, BioTechnology General's misinformation about their oral steroid, oxandrolone (Oxandrin) that exaggerates its anabolic potency as "13 times as anabolic as testosterone" will be brightly highlighted when the two oral steroids are compared in the real world of doctor/patient experience. Anadrol is probably several times as "anabolic" as Oxandrin, and this will become obvious immediately when oxymetholone begins to be used in the AIDS community.

With all due respect to the author of the study on Anadrol that showed no liver toxicity or side-effects, upon close review, I find this very hard to believe, especially since the dosage was very high at 150 mg., three times the dose most bodybuilders would consider using. Anadrol can be "toxic" to a great percentage of any population, so its side-effects will become apparent very quickly when it is used by HIV-positive patients. I predict that hair loss, water retention, high blood pressure, enlarged prostate, mood swings, tiredness resulting from liver-burden, and a lot more will be seen in a majority of HIV-patients who use it, and some of these side-effects will be seen quickly, for some people on the very first day. I also think that a few people will be able to tolerate Anadrol and experience a powerful anabolic effect. I am also curious about what effects Anadrol will have on liver metabolism when used by people who are using liver-burdening medications like the protease inhibitor - cocktails. Anadrol can have a pronounced effect on complicating healthy liver function all by itself, much less in combination with these powerful drugs.

Of course, one consideration is that with its anabolic "power", Anadrol may be a worthwhile option for people who are having a hard time gaining weight and who are not responding to other less powerful steroids like Oxandrin (and even testosterone and nandrolone). In the Henge study, even those people who suffered from infections during the study continued to gain weight with Anadrol. This is something I know is possible, as I have seen Anadrol's effectiveness while observing many years of (illegal) use by athletes and bodybuilders.

Doctors and patients can get more information about Anadrol-50 by calling Unimed at (847) 541-2525.

Anadrol Update - July, 1999

Anadrol has been on the market for over one and one half years now, and we have been surprised that we have not had even one report of elevated liver enzymes from HIV(+) men who call our hotline. We have had males who have had some side effects, including primarily water retention and acne, but we have also had males who have had no problems, only glowing praise that Anadrol was the only steroid that helped them gain weight after severe weight loss, and it was the only steroid besides testosterone that improved their libido and energy. (August, 1999: We now have one report of a negative effect on the liver that appears to have been caused by an interaction with specific AIDS medications. To see the details, go to the article on Oxandrin.)

Doses
Reported doses used have varied from 25 mg per day to 150 mg per day, and as with almost all drugs, side effects are dose related, so a lower dose has less potential for side effects. While the most commonly prescribed dosage is 100 mg per day, Anadrol is a powerful anabolic steroid and a 25 mg daily dose will still elicit a significant effect on muscle growth while having much less potential to cause problems than higher doses, so if you choose to employ Anadrol, work with your doctor to find the lowest dose that gets the desired effect. As with any oral steroid, dividing the daily dose and taking it several times per day will produce the best overall effect with less chance of side effects. Anadrol comes in 50 mg tablets and they are scored so they can be split in two, but some people split them in fourths and take as little as 1/4 tablet twice per day.

Comparison To Oxandrin
In comparison, while we haven't had a lot of males report side effects with the standard 20 mg daily dose of Oxandrin, the other oral steroid that is commonly used in HIV, we have had a few reports of water retention, irritability and acne. Perhaps more important, we have had many reports from HIV(+) people and doctors that Oxandrin can cause elevations of SGOT and SGPT, which may indicate liver problems.


Data from a multi-site dose-ranging study of Oxandrin presented by Dr. Carl Grunfeld at the Geneva AIDS Conference stated that Oxandrin caused elevations of SGOT and SGPT when used in 40 and 80 mg doses. It has been suggested that Oxandrin may interact with the 3A4 P450 enzyme system that metabolizes protease inhibitors while this does not appear to be the case with Anadrol.(1) In comparison, Anadrol did not cause elevations of these enzymes in the Hengge study at a daily dose of 150 mg.(2) It may be that Oxandrin has more potential for liver toxicity than Anadrol when a person is using protease inhibitors.

The Grunfeld study looked at 40 and 80 mg doses of Oxandrin because the standard 20 mg dose appears to be too low to be effective for some HIV(+) men. While some studies have shown good muscle growth with 20 mg per day, this low dose was shown in a study by Salvato to produce little if any muscle muscle growth(1), and we wonder if at comparable milligram doses Anadrol may be a stronger anabolic agent.

Oxandrin produces more muscle growth when it is used in combination with testosterone, and Oxandrin used without testosterone can lower libido, while Anadrol is more androgenic and does not appear to require testosterone for anabolic effects and healthy libido. We suggest that for people who are more prone to side effects, it might be better to use Anadrol alone rather than with testosterone as both are strong androgens so there is more potential for androgenic side effects when they are combined.

References:
1. Thacker DL, et al. Metabolism of an anabolic androgenic steroid, oxymetholone by human cytrochrome p450s. Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics. 1999;65(2): Abstract number 75.
2. Hengge, UR, et al. Oxymetholone promotes weight gain in patients with advanced human immunodeficiency virus infection. Brit J Nutr (1996) 75:129-138.
3. Salvato, P, et al. Conference on Nutrition and HIV Infection Cannes, France (1997) April 23-24; Abstract No. 0-003.


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Re: Just 3 anadrol a day..........
« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2011, 01:56:36 PM »
I don't think so. Anadrol is most known for the correlation with peliosis hepatitis - blood filled cysts within the liver (not that this can't happen with other orals too). These are mostly benign and go away once you drop the drug. Problem is that this may not show through blood work, so a cyst might rupture and you could die from blood loss. As far as liver enzyme elevations, there's studies showing little to no enzyme elevations from 100mg/drol/day for six months. And then there's studies showing signs of liver stress on much lower Anavar doses, supposedly the most liver friendly oral out there... I mean it's used on alcoholics with cirrhotic livers.

Let me ask you this. Let's say you had to either take 100mg of Halotestin for six months or 100mg of Anadrol? Are you confident the Halo would stress the liver less? I don't know which would be worse but I'd pick the Anadrol to run for 6 months (mostly based on a hunch).

BTW, Patrick Arnold says Superdrol is an extremely liver toxic oral, much worse than Anadrol. M1T was another liver killer, again worse than all the steroids that have been used in medicine in the US.

Here's the article I mentioned on another page. It's neither pro-anadrol or against but shows how studies haven't always shown it to be very toxic. It's mainly studies on HIV+ patients though.


Is sdrol as "bad" as they say?

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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2011, 01:58:09 PM »
Anadrols toxicity is blown out of proportion....

From a medical insert type PDF...

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The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

Average weight of a male 80-90 Kgs....

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« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2011, 02:03:31 PM »
Is sdrol as "bad" as they say?

Never tried it. But there several reports of jaundice from it. Sure, a ton of kids used it so it's bound to happen to a few, but OTOH how many get jaundice from Dbol or Drol, say if you put it in percentages? I don't know but experts such as Pat think Superdrol is very toxic compared to the common pharmacy orals.
It was developed and tested by Syntex (makers of Anadrol) back in the day but they never marketed it. Maybe because it was too toxic? Who knows?

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« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2011, 03:28:58 PM »
same damn final result,,they BLOW THE MUSCLE FROM WITHIN while tighten the skin around muscle,, big visual changes due to increase in muscle diameter,, look at silvio he is addicted to anadrolas ,,straight out the look of anapolona abuser and trenbolona abuser

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« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2011, 04:11:11 PM »
ive been on test prop for two weeks and anapolon for one , and in that tiem frame ive added 5 lbs and in since taking anadrol i notice i am little more water weight but new veins/muscle pop more, and of course strength increase in one week! 50 mg/day and i think though i am about to trade it in for some tren to run alongside prop. because i just am too nervous of my liver even though i don't drink or party i don't wanna be fucked up from the inside lol.

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« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2011, 04:45:44 PM »
same damn final result,,they BLOW THE MUSCLE FROM WITHIN while tighten the skin around muscle,, big visual changes due to increase in muscle diameter,, look at silvio he is addicted to anadrolas ,,straight out the look of anapolona abuser and trenbolona abuser

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« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2011, 06:38:26 PM »
gh 15, can anadrol alone be run as an oral only first time cycle for the average gym rat?  Or not a wise idea?  thanx.

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« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2011, 07:00:30 PM »
gh 15, can anadrol alone be run as an oral only first time cycle for the average gym rat?  Or not a wise idea?  thanx.

Fine to run alone. Of course coming off cold turkey will result in loss of gains fairly quickly, but who in this day and age ever does.

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« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2011, 07:09:53 PM »
Fine to run alone. Of course coming off cold turkey will result in loss of gains fairly quickly, but who in this day and age ever does.

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« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2011, 07:19:36 PM »
what you use for PCT if one was to do anadrol only....Nolva 4 weeks?  Is this even needed? I will research this out, but opinions please. thanx.

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« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2011, 07:26:45 PM »
gh 15, can anadrol alone be run as an oral only first time cycle for the average gym rat?  Or not a wise idea?  thanx.

you dont need to run anapolona is you are nto lean ,,if you are 6-8 % you have to run it to get places ...no way behind it ,, anadrol is favorite favortie drug among ALL COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD,, very very very favortie drug and the reason is....it will blow you up from the inside out....muscle will go up in diameter...while weight can remain same ...yes you hear this right,,, you will get tighter...you will get larger ...and you will either climb in weight or stay same depending on few factoes mainly competition weight

fellas do not understand that while all those old geezer tell you they used 250mg of testosterona which is ofcourse a lie,,but while they say it and mean 500-1 gram...they also mean that the reason they needed 500mg was that they had 150mg anadrola running in their orange juice every morning 50 50 50 ...or some even took all at once,,yes you hear it right

anadrola is fine for first cycles as long as you are lean enough! ! !  it give major impact on phsyiqe to a point you will be called A FREAK even if before you looked like a normal inshape gym rat

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Re: Just 3 anadrol a day..........
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2011, 07:30:44 PM »
you dont need to run anapolona is you are nto lean ,,if you are 6-8 % you have to run it to get places ...no way behind it ,, anadrol is favorite favortie drug among ALL COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD,, very very very favortie drug and the reason is....it will blow you up from the inside out....muscle will go up in diameter...while weight can remain same ...yes you hear this right,,, you will get tighter...you will get larger ...and you will either climb in weight or stay same depending on few factoes mainly competition weight

fellas do not understand that while all those old geezer tell you they used 250mg of testosterona which is ofcourse a lie,,but while they say it and mean 500-1 gram...they also mean that the reason they needed 500mg was that they had 150mg anadrola running in their orange juice every morning 50 50 50 ...or some even took all at once,,yes you hear it right

anadrola is fine for first cycles as long as you are lean enough! ! !  it give major impact on phsyiqe to a point you will be called A FREAK even if before you looked like a normal inshape gym rat

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« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2011, 07:37:21 PM »
ofcourse,, anadrola is known to reduce bodyfat% while preping,, it tightens you up and you really see the low singles coming out,, every muscle start looking isolated and blown from within ,, how do you think philsulina grow into a show? yes lots of insulina but anadrola was always there see kevin philsulina ruined the magic when he listened too much to jason but then again this all bodybuild now is fucked

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« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2011, 07:38:46 PM »
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« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2011, 07:39:44 PM »
what should you expect if using anadrol at 12 - 14% ?

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« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2011, 07:44:09 PM »
kevin looooooved anadrol

rumour has it it was also dorian's favorite too !

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« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2011, 07:45:30 PM »
ive been on test prop for two weeks and anapolon for one , and in that tiem frame ive added 5 lbs and in since taking anadrol i notice i am little more water weight but new veins/muscle pop more, and of course strength increase in one week! 50 mg/day and i think though i am about to trade it in for some tren to run alongside prop. because i just am too nervous of my liver even though i don't drink or party i don't wanna be fucked up from the inside lol.

anadrola come AFTER trenbolona ,,,first you want the trenbolona then when take it out at 6% you want to put in the anadrola and bring it all into mutation ...

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« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2011, 07:51:09 PM »
by the way ,,, philsulina has one thing in mind and it is to win the o ,, and he will do very well ,,he dont care what was supposed to be and how much insulina is balonie muscle ,,he only care to beat up jason and he is profesional bodybuild and this is the only thing he should care about ,,so rest assure i dont talk about the way someone make living and his ability to advance in the profession ,, i talk in general when it come to hormone usage,, philsulina has very very good chance to win the o ,, and he will come again with everything developed eventhough lack foudation ,,he will come with thickness and seperation and good muscle shape...and he may very well win it ,,the problem is the generation and what considered best ...not philsulina himself ,,he is just doing what he needs to do period,,he make money off bodybuild the end!

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« Reply #98 on: July 04, 2011, 08:33:53 PM »
what it causes when legit ....is the skin to tighten around the muscle,,blowing up the muscle from the inside out with water but inside the muscle,, its not the weight gain persay ,,its the look that changes,,ofcourse the weight gain wil be there after a while especialy with other compounds in ,, but the main thing is the muscle dimention that increase from inside,,you look tighter! ,,your skin stretches better,, you  just look full and tight ,,tigh guet and full,,

anapolon can cause diareaah yes but it really nto a major deal ,,it can causs less hunger but with hgh it wont hgh is prime hormone that cancel all other sides of other hormones ,,with hgh you wil be hungry ,,it causes lethargy yes but bodybuild need sleep whats wrong with sleep,,1-2 hours here and there  of a nap is good ,,blood pressure is dose dependent with anapolon ,,it really is depending on the individual ,,


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« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2011, 08:49:07 PM »
I don't think so. Anadrol is most known for the correlation with peliosis hepatitis - blood filled cysts within the liver (not that this can't happen with other orals too). These are mostly benign and go away once you drop the drug. Problem is that this may not show through blood work, so a cyst might rupture and you could die from blood loss. As far as liver enzyme elevations, there's studies showing little to no enzyme elevations from 100mg/drol/day for six months. And then there's studies showing signs of liver stress on much lower Anavar doses, supposedly the most liver friendly oral out there... I mean it's used on alcoholics with cirrhotic livers.

Let me ask you this. Let's say you had to either take 100mg of Halotestin for six months or 100mg of Anadrol? Are you confident the Halo would stress the liver less?
I don't know which would be worse but I'd pick the Anadrol to run for 6 months (mostly based on a hunch).

BTW, Patrick Arnold says Superdrol is an extremely liver toxic oral, much worse than Anadrol. M1T was another liver killer, again worse than all the steroids that have been used in medicine in the US.

Here's the article I mentioned on another page. It's neither pro-anadrol or against but shows how studies haven't always shown it to be very toxic. It's mainly studies on HIV+ patients though.



You'd have to be batshit crazy to take 100mg's of halo, I don't know anyone that takes more then 20-30mg
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