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Kai Greene at age 21.
« on: June 22, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »
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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2011, 12:28:56 PM »
Good wheels for 21.
Must have been on since 17 or so.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 12:35:23 PM »
Good wheels for 21.
Must have been on since 17 or so.

It would seem that way.  I'm beginning to think that gear matters a lot less for strength [powerlifting, strongman] than for bodybuilding.

Today my bench was 335 and last Wednesday my deadlift hit 480 at around 160-170 pounds body weight.  I am completely confident that I will hit 350 and 500 within a week or two.  The fact is, strength is a lot more than just muscle size and I am going back to being unsure about Layne Norton's natural status.  If I can hit 500 with crap nutrition and less specific training, I don't see why he couldn't hit at least 600 as he has longer arms than me, better nutrition, and better training.

As for bodybuilding, I think when it comes to strictly building muscle tissue, steroids are very important.  But strength is a combination of things more than just muscle, i.e., ligament and tendon strength, joint resilience, ability to acclimate your central nervous system and more.

From personal experience I am inclined to believe that strength is more based on training while bodybuilding is more based on genetic response to gear.
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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2011, 12:46:14 PM »
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That waist has come a long way to where it's at now.   Terrible

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2011, 12:52:11 PM »
MattC, I can tell you from experience (my own) that your observations regarding strength reflect my own.  At 23, and only 2 years of consistent training, I hit a 500 pound deadlift at a weight of around 180-185.  
I learned thereafter (after years of training) that the deadlift was my best exercise, and somewhat to my detriment in other areas.  What I mean is that the deadlift is so taxing on the CNS (your hands are the most innervated part of your body, IIRC), that your body does not recover enough for you to grow in other areas.  I could deadlift and chin with the strongest guys in the gym, but my pressing was terrible.
So, I refocused my energy on being a very balanced lifter, and lo and behold my believed injuries all but disappeared.
I hated the squat, or any variation thereof, because I was not strong in the squat.  But I made myself love the squat and spent an inordinate amount of time perfecting my form with the Buffalo Bar, straight bar, front squats, etc.  I use the trap bar to deadlift in the higher rep range from time to time, but it is no longer my bread and butter exercise.
I am a better lifter, and look better for it.
Matt, if you have any aspirations of building a better physique, ditch the ultra low rep stuff.  Anything under six reps, in my experience, is inviting injury, and doesn't do too much in the way of muscle growth.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 12:54:59 PM »
MattC and SilverSpoon must be monsters hahahahha ..

Fact : Matt C looks like shit
Fact: Who the f*ck is SilverSpoon ...

I rather look big than actually lift big... which I do...
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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 01:05:20 PM »
I am hardly a monster.
6'1" and sitting at 205, and honestly about 18% bf, maybe a little less.
The heaviest I got up to, and also my strongest, was 225, but boy was I sloppy.  Felt strong as an ox, was squatting (doing a very similar program to Strossen's "Super Squats") and eating like a pig.  But, I looked gross.
I had a child a little over a year ago, and my training fell off, but it actually made me clean up my diet, as I wanted to start training again being leaner.  I was about 15%, but training makes me very hungry, and my job requires a lot of hours.  But at least my training is consistent.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 01:11:35 PM »
It would seem that way.  I'm beginning to think that gear matters a lot less for strength [powerlifting, strongman] than for bodybuilding.

Today my bench was 335 and last Wednesday my deadlift hit 480 at around 160-170 pounds body weight.  I am completely confident that I will hit 350 and 500 within a week or two.  The fact is, strength is a lot more than just muscle size and I am going back to being unsure about Layne Norton's natural status.  If I can hit 500 with crap nutrition and less specific training, I don't see why he couldn't hit at least 600 as he has longer arms than me, better nutrition, and better training.

As for bodybuilding, I think when it comes to strictly building muscle tissue, steroids are very important.  But strength is a combination of things more than just muscle, i.e., ligament and tendon strength, joint resilience, ability to acclimate your central nervous system and more.

From personal experience I am inclined to believe that strength is more based on training while bodybuilding is more based on genetic response to gear.
Dude,start entering power meets..........damn good lifts!!

How much can you squat breaking paralell?

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 01:12:11 PM »
I am hardly a monster.
6'1" and sitting at 205, and honestly about 18% bf, maybe a little less.
The heaviest I got up to, and also my strongest, was 225, but boy was I sloppy.  Felt strong as an ox, was squatting (doing a very similar program to Strossen's "Super Squats") and eating like a pig.  But, I looked gross.
I had a child a little over a year ago, and my training fell off, but it actually made me clean up my diet, as I wanted to start training again being leaner.  I was about 15%, but training makes me very hungry, and my job requires a lot of hours.  But at least my training is consistent.


SilverSpoon, is your real name Ricky Schroder?

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 01:14:59 PM »
SilverSpoon, is your real name Ricky Schroder?

Some friends of mine used to tease me that I grew up like Ricky did on that show, and that became a nickname of mine.  I only had a pinball machine, not a full arcade like Ricky did.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 01:15:59 PM »
solid natural foundation there before incorporating bodybuilding chemical compounds.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 01:17:44 PM »
Some friends of mine used to tease me that I grew up like Ricky did on that show, and that became a nickname of mine.  I only had a pinball machine, not a full arcade like Ricky did.

I hope you beat the fuck out of everyone that did that. Then shove a silverspoon in their ass. The word would have gotten around not to go there with you.   ;D

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2011, 01:21:45 PM »
I hope you beat the fuck out of everyone that did that. Then shove a silverspoon in their ass. The word would have gotten around not to go there with you.   ;D

No need to.  Life beat them up. 
Take my 8th grade all city basketball team.  Two murderers, and one guy serving a 50 year sentence on a 3 strike rule (3 indictable convictions in 10 years = exetended sentence.  Extended sentence on 1st degree crime is 20 to life in NJ).
It was all said in good fun.  I did fight the biggest guy on that team, but he was real cool, and he is now a school teacher.  Fight was broken up before either of us harmed each other badly.  I hit him in the mouth and he missed me with two haymakers.  He was 6'5" in the 8th grade.  We became best friends as a result of that scuffle, all the way through high school.  We still get together for a beer and a cheesesteak now and then.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2011, 01:26:45 PM »
No need to.  Life beat them up. 
Take my 8th grade all city basketball team.  Two murderers, and one guy serving a 50 year sentence on a 3 strike rule (3 indictable convictions in 10 years = exetended sentence.  Extended sentence on 1st degree crime is 20 to life in NJ).
It was all said in good fun.  I did fight the biggest guy on that team, but he was real cool, and he is now a school teacher.  Fight was broken up before either of us harmed each other badly.  I hit him in the mouth and he missed me with two haymakers.  He was 6'5" in the 8th grade.  We became best friends as a result of that scuffle, all the way through high school.  We still get together for a beer and a cheesesteak now and then.

Isn't it amazing that years ago when you got into a fight with someone at school you would usually end up best friends. That doesn't happen now because the loser of the fight is normally shot to death now.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2011, 01:29:44 PM »
sick genetics.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2011, 01:38:54 PM »
The potential was always there. Aside from his chest in that particular pose, he looks pretty damn good. ESPECIALLY the quads ! Unreal development !

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 01:41:24 PM »
MattC, I can tell you from experience (my own) that your observations regarding strength reflect my own.  At 23, and only 2 years of consistent training, I hit a 500 pound deadlift at a weight of around 180-185.  
I learned thereafter (after years of training) that the deadlift was my best exercise, and somewhat to my detriment in other areas.  What I mean is that the deadlift is so taxing on the CNS (your hands are the most innervated part of your body, IIRC), that your body does not recover enough for you to grow in other areas.  I could deadlift and chin with the strongest guys in the gym, but my pressing was terrible.
So, I refocused my energy on being a very balanced lifter, and lo and behold my believed injuries all but disappeared.
I hated the squat, or any variation thereof, because I was not strong in the squat.  But I made myself love the squat and spent an inordinate amount of time perfecting my form with the Buffalo Bar, straight bar, front squats, etc.  I use the trap bar to deadlift in the higher rep range from time to time, but it is no longer my bread and butter exercise.
I am a better lifter, and look better for it.
Matt, if you have any aspirations of building a better physique, ditch the ultra low rep stuff.  Anything under six reps, in my experience, is inviting injury, and doesn't do too much in the way of muscle growth.
Good post...but sometimes you gotta go for low reps...to test your current strenght...

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2011, 01:44:21 PM »
Sick wheels...

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2011, 01:47:37 PM »
Isn't it amazing that years ago when you got into a fight with someone at school you would usually end up best friends. That doesn't happen now because the loser of the fight is normally shot to death now.

That doesn't happen now because one of the kids gets jumped by 10 guys and gets stomped on.
Ain't no such thing as "kicking a fair one" any more.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2011, 02:07:40 PM »
Isn't it amazing that years ago when you got into a fight with someone at school you would usually end up best friends. That doesn't happen now because the winner of the fight is normally shot to death now.
Fixed, because many times the loser goes and "pops the trunk", his pride has been hurt and be has been "disrespected"....

On a side note, women tend to scrap more than men do, these days.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2011, 02:34:30 PM »
He was pretty good even back then.

Me when I turned 21.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2011, 02:36:56 PM »
He was pretty good even back then.

Me when I turned 21.

nice pic of an academy award!

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2011, 02:56:59 PM »
He was pretty good even back then.

Me when I turned 21.
Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips.
Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2011, 05:17:51 PM »
It would seem that way.  I'm beginning to think that gear matters a lot less for strength [powerlifting, strongman] than for bodybuilding.

Today my bench was 335 and last Wednesday my deadlift hit 480 at around 160-170 pounds body weight.  I am completely confident that I will hit 350 and 500 within a week or two.  The fact is, strength is a lot more than just muscle size and I am going back to being unsure about Layne Norton's natural status.  If I can hit 500 with crap nutrition and less specific training, I don't see why he couldn't hit at least 600 as he has longer arms than me, better nutrition, and better training.

As for bodybuilding, I think when it comes to strictly building muscle tissue, steroids are very important.  But strength is a combination of things more than just muscle, i.e., ligament and tendon strength, joint resilience, ability to acclimate your central nervous system and more.

From personal experience I am inclined to believe that strength is more based on training while bodybuilding is more based on genetic response to gear.

All things considered equal, muscle mass and strength have a correlation of 1.

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Re: Kai Greene at age 21.
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 05:31:01 PM »
it's pathological with you; you are loaded with steroids; no doubt your asshole took a turn for the decidedly supra-saltus when Axio went up shit creek... what with you having an Axio loyalty card that would make Dave Palumbo shit! ya dirty cunt:



Oh and, shit for brains, let's see you deny this, because, and as we all know, you can quite easily show the world your forum database containing this post; we wont wait though, mongoloid!

Don't worry, here is where you can manifest your gimmick account "Primemucsle" aka "Matt's oily daddy" to cum protect you!

You've no doubt been wanking off about men - big oily men - your entire life!

Hell, as a grown man, I bet the public toilets of Canada can tell many a tale? Fly on the wall, old mans fingerprints on your balls!

You had better pray that the CIA never creates a vaseline, AIDS and mulatto dildo based technology similar to that observed in the movie "Minority Report".

You are a fucking sickening, hatemongering cunt!

LOL. Now, we're cooking with gasoline. Carry on.   ;D