Kai Greene at age 21.

[w8m8]

w8m8, my friend your posting, along with PT's has brought a wry smile to my bloated face

Indeed she did, one of the many reasons I have so much time for the lady.

Thank you kind sir 

I'm sure he was counting on you, the mellow giant, not chiming in here .. you showed more patience with him than any of us

He should have appreciated it

I hope your day today made up for that bit of an ass you had to deal with the other nite !!
That guy's not seeing how he lucky was either  .. lol  

[newmom]

lol too much Sustanon would be closer to the watery mark

Indeed she did, one of the many reasons I have so much time for the lady.

RUT ROH, careful with that shit. I know you know what ya doing. Just be careful.


That's very nice thing to say. He should of handed over that board to ya

[andreisdaman]

Good wheels for 21.
Must have been on since 17 or so.

try 13

[Evo]

I'm sure he was counting on you, the mellow giant, not chiming in here .. you showed more patience with him than any of us

He should have appreciated it

I hope your day today made up for that bit of an ass you had to deal with the other nite !!
That guy's not seeing how he lucky was either  .. lol  

Well I have a little spare time and what better way to spend it than fraternizing with some old friends, and outing yet another muggy girl that has wormed his way through an existence off the back of bodybuilding.  Looking back perhaps I did take it a little easy on Matt and placed too much faith in him, but people have done the same for me and had they not I would not know who and what I do now - quelle suprise young matthew lacked the intellect to capitalize on his last chance.

Thank you, I have had a great day with my girlfriend today as it happens, we enjoyed a very relaxing day in my newly landscaped garden and enjoyed some of the finer things on offer in this world Said wanker from the other night, I have on good authority he is nursing multiple injuries and wont be repeating his actions in a hurry

[Evo]

RUT ROH, careful with that shit. I know you know what ya doing. Just be careful.


That's very nice thing to say. He should of handed over that board to ya

I will, thank you for your concern

I offered to BUY the board off him, told him to basically name his price - that place, at one time had crazy potential, there was only one thing holding it back......

[newmom]

I will, thank you for your concern

I offered to BUY the board off him, told him to basically name his price - that place, at one time had crazy potential, there was only one thing holding it back......

that flipping ex of mine.. I KID I KID. All is good there.

I agree. It was a fun and very good board with lots of information on everything.

[apply85]

It sounded like I was trying to say that Dan was conning Matt. I was more trying to find an incentive for Dan to help Matt make a million bucks instead of helping himself make millions of bucks. Get it?

So Matt has a history of fucking people off, and Dan left him a long time ago, and then Matt begged him to come back, so he did. So that makes no sense, how stupid is Dan? But you then you imply Matt paid Dan to come back. Why do you say he begged him when all that matters is that he paid him, clearly Dan came back for the money. So if the bottom line is money, why don't y'all cut Matt out and make a website. Why did you guys keep giving Matt chances when he failed you over and over, why did Dan connect Matt with his UG friends when Matt had a history of being retarded. If these people aren't to be messed around with you did you connect them with a guy who loves to mess around.

[w8m8]

Well I have a little spare time and what better way to spend it than fraternizing with some old friends, and outing yet another muggy #girl that has wormed his way through an existence off the back of bodybuilding.  Looking back perhaps I did take it a little easy on Matt and placed too much faith in him, but people have done the same for me and had they not I would not know who and what I do now - quelle suprise young matthew lacked the intellect to capitalize on his last chance.

Thank you, I have had a great day with my girlfriend today as it happens, we enjoyed a very relaxing day in my newly landscaped garden and enjoyed some of the finer things on offer in this world Said wanker from the other night, I have on good authority he is nursing multiple injuries and wont be repeating his actions in a hurry

Enjoying life the way you do is most definitely one of the finest things in life .. I think your "easy ways" are a great thing so I'm glad no one ever affect a change in that part of you  .. but I can't say I also don't admire the way you handle the odd wankers who test you 

Cheers .. hope you get plenty more days of gorgeous weather to enjoy your new garden 

[w8m8]

It sounded like I was trying to say that Dan was conning Matt. I was more trying to find an incentive for Dan to help Matt make a million bucks instead of helping himself make millions of bucks. Get it?

So Matt has a history of fucking people off, and Dan left him a long time ago, and then Matt begged him to come back, so he did. So that makes no sense, how stupid is Dan? But you then you imply Matt paid Dan to come back. Why do you say he begged him when all that matters is that he paid him, clearly Dan came back for the money. So if the bottom line is money, why don't y'all cut Matt out and make a website. Why did you guys keep giving Matt chances when he failed you over and over, why did Dan connect Matt with his UG friends when Matt had a history of being retarded. If these people aren't to be messed around with you did you connect them with a guy who loves to mess around.

shut up Matt I'm ignoring your new ghey gimmick  

If no homo, why am I so wet.

go down to the sex board and look up Schmoe Daddy .. it's better for you to use your little head

[Matt C]

Alright, alright.  I was making the story up about my dad being sued for posting a YouTube clip.  It was all part of an elaborate ruse to expel Dan from my site.  It never happened and there was never a possibility that some of my dad's assets may have had to be moved to my name to protect from this litigation.  I made it all up!

My dad was never sued:

http://www.expertulpc.com/tech/this-dmca-notice-got-runover-by-a-reindeer-18017775
http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/copyright-lawsuits/california-northern-district-court/58416/elmo-shropshire-v-aubrey-canning-jr/summary
http://ca.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20110407_0000708.NCA.htm/qx
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/01/13/Grandma%20Got%20Run%20Over%20By%20A%20Reindeer%20Ruling.pdf

Simultaneously I wasn't receiving e-mail and registered legal letters FROM THREE SEPARATE COMPANIES/PERSONS in the mail with statements to the effect of:

Hi,

This thread here:

*deleted link*

Throws you open to a whole bunch of legal issues including libel and defamation, with potential damages being high considering the number of firms mentions without:

1) Showing they've done anything wrong
2) Any firm facts from anything that's going on

The issue (to my understanding) presently going on, is that certain companies **** supplied have claimed on their supplements [*false label claim*] when they're not. That's it. Our protein, and those of ****, **** and others...don't claim to be [*false label claim*], they just claim to be great value, high-protein and tasty.

The way contract manufacturing works is that the client asks for a product with certain features (i.e. 80% whey concentrate, 5g's creatine mono per serving etc.)...and this is supplied by the manufacturer. It is the brands responsibility to label correctly as they'll be the ones supplying the end consumer. Almost all supplement companies use contract manufacturers - including the bulk suppliers, for example **** use **** for many of their supplements.

[...]


[*more legal explanations/threats*]

I mean, what the hell, risk a million dollars of my parent's assets as well as my own assets to allow a free-for-all bodybuilding board to run?  Put my family's well-being and future on the line?  No big deal!  Running the board was obviously much more important!

And it's not like I didn't explain all this when everything was cleared up and invite Dan back to post on my board.  No you see, as said it was all an elaborate ruse to expel Dan from my site.  I wanted my traffic to drop as a result of all this.  Yes, that was my grand plan.  

Lastly, I did not have two small babies whom I wanted to protect as best as possible by shutting down my website until everything got resolved.  No, that wasn't my concern at all.  Again, it all revolved around me wanting to remove Dan from my site.

[WillGrant]

Matt C being smashed like Bay's asshole in a San Fran bath house 

[Natural Man]

how inconceivably dumb you ve got to be to post pics of your children on an internet message board -even worse; getbig-to get some sympathy.  What an attention whore. Bah.

[Palpatine Q]

just breezing thru...sounds to me like Dan needed Matts Board, Matt needed Dan's connect, and they are both scumbags.... they tried to fuck each other, and nobody got anything

[Matt C]

Matt C being smashed like Bay's asshole in a San Fran bath house 

I verified my side of the story probably no less than a dozen times by now, with multiple of those times being in this thread.  I don't think there's much more that can be done at this point.  Believe what you will.  For everyone else, check out the links I posted and you will see I'm telling the truth.

At least Anthony Roberts has the balls to attach his name to the controversial matters he discusses on his site.  I can respect that.

how inconceivably dumb you ve got to be to post pics of your children on an internet message board -even worse; getbig-to get some sympathy.  What an attention whore. Bah.

Yet another nameless account who would never attend an expo and approach anybody on any matter ever.  Lots of credibility from the anti-Matt C camp here folks.  

They are the only two photos of my children that I have online and they were already posted publicly on my site.  Pedophiles aren't going to have some vested in molesting newborns.    Ron and numerous others have photos of their children on their Facebooks.  You can search high and low for photos of me online and you will find plenty, but far less than even the average Facebook user, including photos of family.  This isn't 1980.

What the pictures do prove once again is that I am telling the truth about having family to protect.  I didn't make that up and once again my claims can be easily verifiable.

The only "owning" that has happened to me is in the minds of people who like seeing a thread where I'm being called out on something - anything.  It's like saying Layne Norton has been "owned" by people who claim he uses who offer no evidence to support those claims.

I like the comments like "Prove this DIDN'T happen."

LOL.

The burden of proof is on the one making the positive claim.  It's not up to me to DISPROVE every allegation against me, it's up to the one making the positive claim to positively prove it.

Ok w8m8, prove that your mother is not a one-armed prostitute.  Post her photo, occupation, etc, to disprove this.

Oh you don't want to do that?  It must mean she's a one-armed prostitute!  

See how that works?  I think some people need some basic lessons in logical fallacies.

As suggested by apply85, Dan and his friends should start a website if they think they can do such a great job with it.  I honestly don't know what's so difficult about that.

[Matt C]

just breezing thru...sounds to me like Dan needed Matts Board, Matt needed Dan's connect, and they are both scumbags.... they tried to fuck each other, and nobody got anything

The fact is that Dan knew a lot of people in the industry and I'm sure could fairly quickly set up a complete set of paid banner ads on my forum - no doubt Dan could have contributed a lot had he been patient and allowed me to wait until the lawsuit was resolved.  I could see Dan bringing in an easy 5K to the site in banner ads, and quite possibly over 10K given his networking ability.  Instead he chose to leave, bitter by the allegation that I booted him from the board - which I have by now proven I did not do.  I just wanted to wait for the lawsuit to clear up before risking more litigation.  A perfectly reasonable position.  I invited him back, at which point presumably he still believed I was lying - even though everything I have stated is easily verifiable.  If not, I really don't know why he refused to come back to my board.  But hey, I tried.

[Matt C]

how inconceivably dumb you ve got to be to post pics of your children on an internet message board -even worse; getbig-to get some sympathy.  What an attention whore. Bah.

Plus it was a photoshopped photo anyway.  Here is the original:

[apply85]

shut up Matt I'm ignoring your new ghey gimmick  

go down to the sex board and look up Schmoe Daddy .. it's better for you to use your little head

So you went through my post history and realized I wasn't Matt. Remember all those words you called me, and you didn't think how stupid you would look if you were wrong? All of it because I asked you to explain something in your story which you still haven't. You're making your story look even fishier than it is by being so belligerent.

[w8m8]

I verified my side of the story probably no less than a dozen times by now, with multiple of those times being in this thread.
 
I like the comments like "Prove this DIDN'T happen."

ROARING WITH LAUGHTER!!!

Look at Matt Canning, using his kids on a public forum ? ? ? Not to mention wheeling out his many gimmick accounts LOL... I bet the disgusting grease ball - Matt Canning - has all manner of 'photos' on his HDD???

Matt... you're all over the place... getting gang raped by those of us that were there. You're the equivocator in this equation... fabricating allegations that you have singularly failed to substantiate.

To wit:
The screen shot was NOT doctored, there were 2 secret forums where you talked shit, and you swore you would get the website up to par for the "deals" you were anxious to benefit from .. BTW adding that we would not gain money from such but were working on to help YOU

Conversely, and as said, there are first hand witnesses corroborating EVERY claim on our side!

Additionally, and as seen in this thread, we even have other, long term, respected members - from "gh15" thru "willgrant" who are anonymous and you assume have never been to an expo as well - of whom, have likewise concluded you to be an outright liar! .

As said... you are SHIT at PR .. and have NO integrity ... YOU HAVE BEEN RAPED!

But do carry on... you're making yourself look more of a feeble minded fuckwit than we could ever dream to!

Honestly, just fuck off... or authenticate your authenticity !

You've sidelined and ignored everything you were shown to have done except for an asinine lawsuit story over a Grama got ran over by a Reindeer video on youtube that your father REFUSED to just take down .. million dollar risk .. children in danger .. omfg  

Take your gay gimmicks and go have have a gang bang SPAMMER

[WillGrant]

Plus it was a photoshopped photo anyway.  Here is the original:

Cute kid 

[Matt C]

Matt... you're all over the place... getting gang raped by those of us that were there. You're the equivocator in this equation... fabricating allegations that you have singularly failed to substantiate.

I validated all of my claims in the post above.  My family was undergoing a lawsuit that there was a very real possibility of me getting caught up in.  I was in turn being threatened for some of the posts on my board at the time.  I decided to close things down temporarily and wait until things got resolved.  I closed things down, the legal threats went away and my dad's lawsuit [which YouTube was named in as well] was eventually settled in his favour and life went on.  I don't need to sit here and justify the measures I take to protect my family.  If a few anonymous online user names don't like me for that, that's fine.

Prove to me you don't take legal threats seriously.  Post the Gaspari Myofusion lab assay under your real name and a domain name that you own and report that to Gaspari.  If he sues you, leave the assay online.  Will you do that?  No, you prefer to post everything anonymously using layers of proxies while giving others flak for taking million dollar lawsuits seriously.

And if you think you can create a great board and take on legal responsibility for it then go for it.  My family comes before my board.

Cute kid  

Hey thanks WillGrant!!  At the end of the day, my family is what matters the most for me.

[Matt C]

By the way, Gaspari is doing over $110 million a year in business.  Over $2 million dollars a week.

I'm sure Rich is seriously scared about Ron Kramer and his lawsuit.  

[w8m8]

I'm a tiresome dimwit...

Matt, this is our final reply on this matter; your circuitous rambles are decidedly dull. Whilst it has been fun gang raping you, one does have a life to attend. You have lost this one, PR disaster that you are, so just give it up.

I appreciate the following facts are not sinking into that shit-stained brain of yours; however, and in succinct fashion, here they are again, just for you:

- You have the database to the secret and moderator forums at your website; a database, of which, verifies each and every claim we have made! If we were in court, we could subpoena said database and screw you to the wall, ironic really given your whiny crap about your fathers Youtube affair.

- re the above: this is why you will not release said forum database to the public, by virtue that to do so will vindicate each of our claims. Conversely, if the claims you have made held water, you could make us look stupid by releasing said database; doh, idiot!

- The Gaspari analysis was contracted by one Spencer Clark of STC Nutrition, thru ILS labs in the United Kingdom; contact them and verify that yourself, if the fancy takes you - all the data to do so is public domain; mongol.

Oh and, lastly, well done for revealing you know FUCK ALL about Ron Kramer LOL; honestly it just gets better and better with you.

Matt Canning... "like Santa Claus... only retarded and fond of toilet sex";  one comedy gift another another...

Anyhoo Matt, thanks for playing.

Cue more discursive waffle about "danger to your ugly kids" and "Youtube lawsuits".

Honestly, get a life; you're fuck all in in this game, and never will be.

ciao.

[Palpatine Q]

You keep going on and on about the same stuff.....right, wrong or indifferent it's apparent no one here really gives a shit except you an your  cohorts

[whitewidow]

It would seem that way.  I'm beginning to think that gear matters a lot less for strength [powerlifting, strongman] than for bodybuilding.

Today my bench was 335 and last Wednesday my deadlift hit 480 at around 160-170 pounds body weight.  I am completely confident that I will hit 350 and 500 within a week or two.  The fact is, strength is a lot more than just muscle size and I am going back to being unsure about Layne Norton's natural status.  If I can hit 500 with crap nutrition and less specific training, I don't see why he couldn't hit at least 600 as he has longer arms than me, better nutrition, and better training.

As for bodybuilding, I think when it comes to strictly building muscle tissue, steroids are very important.  But strength is a combination of things more than just muscle, i.e., ligament and tendon strength, joint resilience, ability to acclimate your central nervous system and more.

From personal experience I am inclined to believe that strength is more based on training while bodybuilding is more based on genetic response to gear.
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I CALL BULLSHIT ON YOUR CLAIMS! IF IMM WRONG POST UP A VIDEO OF YOU AT YOUR GYM WITH DATE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. sorry about the caps but when i hear bullshit i get hyped up. you maybe able to lift that much weight with like 4 spotters helping you.