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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 06:52:20 PM » |
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it's funny how far wrestlers need to push themselves to make it in today's industry
30 years ago a guy like Hogan became immortal with charisma and a leg drop
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2011, 08:10:36 PM » |
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I think a big problem was that guys kept taking it to a higher & higher level.
The more you give the fans, the more they want...and pretty soon, they demand it - unsatisfied with the older stuff.
Notwithstanding today's general lack of talent, I think a major drawback is that just about everything within the realm of human possibility has been done and seen.
They've reached a point where they can't fall from any higher or land any harder.
They've exhausted the well of angles & story lines.
Pretty much all of the best stuff has been done, and the cookie-cutters of today lack any imagination & creativity because they never needed to or had the chance to develop it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2011, 08:16:29 PM » |
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Cornette had a quote like "30 years ago it was soft, and people thought we were killing each other. Today, guys are killing themselves and no one is buying it."
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 07:43:35 AM » |
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Andy Griffin
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 02:23:08 PM » |
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Next to Michael Hickenbottom (Shawn Michaels), DDP had the worst real name in wrestling (Paige Falkenburg).  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 03:42:11 PM » |
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Next to Michael Hickenbottom (Shawn Michaels), DDP had the worst real name in wrestling (Paige Falkenburg). sounds like a writer from new england. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 03:44:47 PM » |
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sounds like a writer from new england.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2011, 02:15:50 PM » |
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I'm a big fan..He was incredibly over and the crowd loved him. He worked his ass off to put on good matches unlike most of the clowns in WCW. A lot of people don't like him because he they believe he got pushed because of his connections with Bischoff.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2011, 02:19:27 PM » |
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I'm a big fan..He was incredibly over and the crowd loved him. He worked his ass off to put on good matches unlike most of the clowns in WCW. A lot of people don't like him because he they believe he got pushed because of his connections with Bischoff.
I remember in WCW he had an angle with Savage and came out for a match disguised as one of the "New Japan" stars...stopped a Savage elbow drop with a foot to the face then won with a Diamond Cutter before he unmasked. The fans went nuts because unlike so many of these, people didn't see it coming. I had no idea it was DDP under there (unlike Dusty Rhodes as The Midnight Rider...oh, brother) |
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 02:29:54 PM » |
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I remember in WCW he had an angle with Savage and came out for a match disguised as one of the "New Japan" stars...stopped a Savage elbow drop with a foot to the face then won with a Diamond Cutter before he unmasked. The fans went nuts because unlike so many of these, people didn't see it coming. I had no idea it was DDP under there (unlike Dusty Rhodes as The Midnight Rider...oh, brother)
Like when Kevin Nash Sting grew a foot and no one seemed to notice? |
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 02:36:11 PM » |
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Like when Kevin Nash Sting grew a foot and no one seemed to notice?
Yep... Although I always think of Dusty/MR and remember Jim Ross' overselling it so badly... "The Midnight Rider looks familiar, but I just can't place him!!!"  Most five-year-olds could. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 03:18:14 PM » |
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Yep... Although I always think of Dusty/MR and remember Jim Ross' overselling it so badly... "The Midnight Rider looks familiar, but I just can't place him!!!" Most five-year-olds could. Not to mention big Dust had used the exact same angle in Florida when fueding with Sullivan. As Tully once said....."Dusty, every man in Austin knows the color of the inside of your moms bedroom...." Now that is a promo. As for DDP, I went to a Nitro in Atl at the height of the monday night wars and DDP was THE most over guy as for a pop and sustained pop.....more than Hogan, nWo, Hall/Nash, Goldberg, etc.... He was WAY over and like Mass said, I know DDP got a break because of Bischoff, but he certainly ran with it. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 04:18:37 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 04:20:54 PM » |
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DDP does Yoga in the park by my place every weekend.
I've run into him a couple of times... Really nice guy.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2011, 06:45:27 PM » |
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He was crazy over in WWF, too. He got a huge pop when he was revealed as the stalker and got that crappy motivational speaker gimmick to work.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2011, 09:28:53 PM » |
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Next to Michael Hickenbottom (Shawn Michaels), DDP had the worst real name in wrestling (Paige Falkenburg). I always liked him, even more after reading Mick Foley's book, when Foley, DDP and Austin would travel together LOL at the name!!! you could mispronounce it to sound like Page F*cken-Berg or F*ck a Berg |
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2011, 10:06:27 PM » |
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met him and booker t's wife at the Hard Rock in Vegas.....seemed like a nice guy.
I snuck a diamond cutter sign in on him when he was talking to the valet...he laughed
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2011, 10:22:39 AM » |
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I wish he'd come back as an announcer and give some enthusiasm to the product, something that the announcers, namely on Raw don't do. King has become god awful.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2011, 12:15:55 PM » |
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I wish he'd come back as an announcer and give some enthusiasm to the product, something that the announcers, namely on Raw don't do. King has become god awful.
I don't think he was ever good with that high pitched voice. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 09:51:22 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2011, 09:46:24 AM » |
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Raven is also quite intelligent - at least as far as IQ is concerned. It sounds as if he pocketed some good coin while in WCW. Of course, I'll always maintain that his best work was in the original ECW. A long way since this: |
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2011, 02:05:16 PM » |
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 "I was Emo before Emo was cool." |
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oderus
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2011, 03:53:12 AM » |
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"I was Emo before Emo was cool." looks like avesher |
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2011, 04:58:47 AM » |
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looks like avesher
IIRC, Av dabbled in a little pro-wrestling a few years back. Never mentioned it much, though. |
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