Author Topic: English Law:Burglar stabbed to death: Three arrested for murder (Read 2288 times)

Army of One · « **on:** June 23, 2011, 10:23:05 AM »

Oh Brother, should they invite them in so they can rape the daughter and take their possesions?

"A burglar has been stabbed to death and the householder arrested on suspicion of murder after an attempted break-in at his house in Salford.

Four masked men attempted to get into a house in Ethel Avenue before midnight on Wednesday.

The stabbed man, 26, is believed to have been carried away by the other intruders as they fled, before being dumped in a street in Pendlebury.

Peter Flanagan, 57, son Neil, 29, and his son's girlfriend are being held.

The men and the 21-year-old woman are being questioned on suspicion of murder.

A 999 call was made from the house, during which the caller said four masked men were trying to break in.

Police said the stabbed man was found on Hospital Road and died a short time later.

Ch Supt Kevin Mulligan, who heads Greater Manchester Police's Salford division, said the man suffered "at least one stab wound" during an altercation in the house involving at least one person from the address and four people breaking in.

He said he could not comment further on the injuries or the cause of death until a post-mortem examination had been carried out.

Ch Supt Kevin Mulligan reveals details of the alleged burglary which resulted in the death of a 26-year-old man.

He also refused to comment on whether the weapon had been taken into the property by the intruder or if it belonged to the householder.

The three people with the stabbed man at the time of the incident have yet to be traced, Mr Mulligan said.

He urged them, or anyone who knows of their whereabouts, to contact Greater Manchester Police.

Prime Minister David Cameron this week vowed to bring in stronger measures to protect homeowners defending their property.

He said: "We will put beyond doubt that homeowners and small shopkeepers who use reasonable force to defend themselves or their properties will not be prosecuted."
Police at the scene A 100m cordon has been put in place around the terraced house

When asked about whether householders should be able to defend themselves, Mr Mulligan said: "Within the existing legal framework, you can use reasonable force to protect yourself - the emphasis on reasonable."

"I don't see it as my position to speculate on possible legislation in the future," he added.

He urged people who thought they were being burgled to contact police.

Police have put up a 100m cordon around the terraced house in Pendlebury, which backs on to open scrubland.

Mr Mulligan said: "I can reassure the community that we will thoroughly investigate what happened last night and do not believe that members of the public are at risk.

"I would urge anyone who knows something to speak to officers from the major incident team and anyone else who has other concerns can speak to my officers, who will be providing an increased presence to provide the community with reassurance."

OptimusPrime1980 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:49:21 AM »

fucking sad!

these guys were not there for coffee or something!
they were breaking in!! to take whatever they wanted, maybe worse!
the people who stabbed these bastards should get medals!

the world is getting worse and worse, protecting the wrong people....
here in brasil, you do get a thumbs up from the police if you kill a burglar... lol!

mass243 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:50:29 AM »

Maybe sum' democracy should be spread into UK...?

pluck · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:22:49 AM »

UK is a fucked up place.

Anyone remember the story of Guy Ritchie ... he was rehabbing his townhouse in London and some squatters moved in.

Under UK law those squatters can not be evicted from that home because they are occupying it.

It's totally fucked

bigmc · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:03:18 PM »

they wont be prosecuted

but will have to live with the fear of it for the next year while british law plods its way to the right decision

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:10:40 PM »

Yes, either invite them in or kill them. There is no other ways of action.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:15:11 PM »

I wonder what the house owners police record looks like. I think a way to get around a lot of the BS if you do end up killing someone in your own home, is to stab yourself in the leg with something that can't be traced back to you before you make the 911 call

Griffith · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2011, 01:21:11 PM »

What a fucking joke.

If a group of guys have illegally entered a house, their intentions are not going to be good....

If someone is illegally on your property, especially entering your house, the law should be Shoot to Kill.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:18:01 PM »

Quote from: Griffith on June 23, 2011, 01:21:11 PM

What a fucking joke.

If a group of guys have illegally entered a house, their intentions are not going to be good....

If someone is illegally on your property, especially entering your house, the law should be Shoot to Kill.

Its happening all around the globe. The "Hierarchy" release these types of news clips to "foreshadow" the future for your children.

Parker · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:26:56 PM »

I know of a woman who shot a burglar with a shotgun...she was at the top of the steps and he was at the bottom and he started to come up...he lived, and he took her to court...

TRIX · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:31:10 PM »

its bullshit, but on the other hand, IF THE LAWS WERE CHANGED you can just say someone broke into your house (but you actually let them in) and killed them, and get away scott free

i would have just told the police that they (the criminals) said they were going to murder them and rape the girl

if it goes to a jury (im sure they will get off) unless the jury is human right activitists

lol

claymore · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:31:18 PM »

Quote from: OptimusPrime1980 on June 23, 2011, 10:49:21 AM

fucking sad!

these guys were not there for coffee or something!
they were breaking in!! to take whatever they wanted, maybe worse!
the people who stabbed these bastards should get medals!

the world is getting worse and worse, protecting the wrong people....
here in brasil, you do get a thumbs up from the police if you kill a burglar... lol!

"the world is getting worse and worse, protecting the wrong people...."...Sad but true

Largerthanlife · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:43:07 PM »

in the USA it would probably work the same way, unless the burglar is threatening with your life, you are expected to flee, so what did this guy expect to do just kill this guy? I don't see any part in the article that said the man who broke in had a weapon, totally unnecessary violence.

KevinP85 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:52:42 PM »

Quote from: Largerthanlife on June 23, 2011, 04:43:07 PM

in the USA it would probably work the same way, unless the burglar is threatening with your life, you are expected to flee, so what did this guy expect to do just kill this guy? I don't see any part in the article that said the man who broke in had a weapon, totally unnecessary violence.

Fuck off!! I hope you try to break in my house, I'll put a bullet in your skull!!

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2011, 04:54:44 PM »

Quote from: GangstaLean on June 23, 2011, 04:26:56 PM

I know of a woman who shot a burglar with a shotgun...she was at the top of the steps and he was at the bottom and he started to come up...he lived, and he took her to court...

She needs to take the law into her hands outside the house if she is forced to pay for any damages. Most of the governments of the world is made up of absolute pussies. I'd bet the house that Arnold S. himself has never been in a real fight. These aren't the types of people who are going to dictate who my life is going to begin or end.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2011, 05:45:31 PM »

In California if you shoot a burglar coming through your window to the inside of the house, you better make sure you drag him in because if you don't you're the one thats going to be charged.

Largerthanlife · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:54:38 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on June 23, 2011, 05:45:31 PM

In California if you shoot a burglar coming through your window to the inside of the house, you better make sure you drag him in because if you don't you're the one thats going to be charged.

x2 that is what I was trying to say in my above post, stuff isn't too much different here.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2011, 01:21:19 PM »

Quote from: Largerthanlife on June 23, 2011, 04:43:07 PM

in the USA it would probably work the same way, unless the burglar is threatening with your life, you are expected to flee, so what did this guy expect to do just kill this guy? I don't see any part in the article that said the man who broke in had a weapon, totally unnecessary violence.

I don't know man. If its 4 o'clock in the morning(witching hours) and I'm passed out in a drunken stupor but somehow am awaken by 3 or 4 guys in masks and shit like that, I'm grabbing anything I can and swinging for the fences until nothing is moving.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2011, 01:22:16 PM »

I bet if someone broke into a cops house and the cop killed the person, the cop would probably get a medal.

Nails · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »

All Part of the New World Order... citizens no longer have rights in their own homes