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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #100 on: June 27, 2011, 02:23:21 PM »
5ft5 morning weight 222. just a couple of shots for the thunderdome to tear apart..LOL im a big boy i can take it  ;)


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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #101 on: June 27, 2011, 02:31:38 PM »
HES STILL USING A LOT OF HORMONES + GH, BUT HE OBVIOUSLY RESPONDS BETTER. ID IMAGINE SOMEONE WITH WORSE GENETIC RESPONSE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE 150% OF THAT DOSE TO GET WHERE HE IS. SO ABOUT 3 GRAMS OF AAS. WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.

Exactly. Here is a question for some of you guys. If you were in Bboy's shoes would you tell the truth if you had a pro card on the line? I sure as fuck wouldn't. :D I'm not saying he is lying but there is always a chance he is playing everyone. Lately he is Acting like he's an "all drugs" guy but his doses are not that high. Kind of like Tom prince. Remember he posted his cycle and everyone was in love with the dude for being honest with his doses. But everyone knows the truth wasnt all there now was it :D
. I think take a look at Spike...and Okami's  doses in that mutation thread a while back and you start gettin closer to the truth with Bboy. Or he just responds very well and he really does take that much..only he knows. Personally,  really dont understand why a secure guy would lie about this shit on an internet board in the first place like  a Groink... dude has some serious issues.
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #102 on: June 27, 2011, 03:34:22 PM »
Exactly. Here is a question for some of you guys. If you were in Bboy's shoes would you tell the truth if you had a pro card on the line? I sure as fuck wouldn't. :D I'm not saying he is lying but there is always a chance he is playing everyone. Lately he is Acting like he's an "all drugs" guy but his doses are not that high. Kind of like Tom prince. Remember he posted his cycle and everyone was in love with the dude for being honest with his doses. But everyone knows the truth wasnt all there now was it :D
. I think take a look at Spike...and Okami's  doses in that mutation thread a while back and you start gettin closer to the truth with Bboy. Or he just responds very well and he really does take that much..only he knows. Personally,  really dont understand why a secure guy would lie about this shit on an internet board in the first place like  a Groink... dude has some serious issues.
bro i have told you the truth? thats all i can do, its the internet, i can't sit here and take a lie detector test or something for you, anyways whether you believe me or not isn't important, the increase in GH is fucking magic, its all that gh15 said it is, im truly floored by the way my body has responded. and those guys you have mentioned and their dosages, well when they are 39 yrs old and have been slinging iron nonstop since they were 13 yrs old then they shouldn't need super mega doses to have a pretty thick physique, i got more time under tension than 90% of the board (probably). also if i were truly worried about a pro card on the line then i wouldn't even talk about AAS.

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2011, 03:47:38 PM »
bro i have told you the truth? thats all i can do, its the internet, i can't sit here and take a lie detector test or something for you, anyways whether you believe me or not isn't important, the increase in GH is fucking magic, its all that gh15 said it is, im truly floored by the way my body has responded. and those guys you have mentioned and their dosages, well when they are 39 yrs old and have been slinging iron nonstop since they were 13 yrs old then they shouldn't need super mega doses to have a pretty thick physique, i got more time under tension than 90% of the board (probably). also if i were truly worried about a pro card on the line then i wouldn't even talk about AAS.

I told you the TRUTH..... GH15 told you the TRUTH, theres nothing more i can do for the doubters


good for you. You still may be lying but who cares. Good luck on that pro card :)
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2011, 03:49:09 PM »
also,, his genetic respond is very good,, remember friends being a bodybuildr dont mean having the biggest muscles always,, your genetic respond  and shape and how you sustain and body accept the drugs is key....still you as bodybuilder can get big and lean and ripped and thick,, will it be to this level? maybe yes maybe not,, but as i always say ,,if you have a physiqe that meant to look like frank zane...thats what you should go for...if you hav ephysiqe that meant to look like sergio...thats what you should go for ,, you should be able to recognize your weakneses faily early and your strength ,, again most physiqes can look impressive and its not always size dependent! in npc condition > size,,yes you need ENOUGH SIZE,, fella like leaf bug at 183lb wont win a national show ,,but put on him another 14lb and he will win it! mainly due to condition ,,


some fellas lose lots of weight on the way to stage,, they tell you they are 240 then you see them on stage 202 and look like balonie,, some fellas walk around in gym 215 ....not that impressive 5'9 and then you see them on stage 200+ of shredded sculpted statue and they win! ,,

only thing that matter is ON STAGE ,,nothing else,, offstage its alot to do with how you hold water in the muscle,, how you hold water outside the muscle... how you take the picture,, do you hav eother fellas around you while takin the pics,, the lighting,, the bodyfat on the lower back and water on lower back that from the back is the most important thing,, you flip a bodybuild to its back liek a turtle on hsi shell and you can see everything that is lacking or not,, there are lines who got to be there inorder to know you are onthe right track ,,lines on the back! specific points of the back got to be dialed in even 10 weeks out they have to

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #105 on: June 27, 2011, 03:52:08 PM »
also,, his genetic respond is very good,, remember friends being a bodybuildr dont mean having the biggest muscles always,, your genetic respond  and shape and how you sustain and body accept the drugs is key....still you as bodybuilder can get big and lean and ripped and thick,, will it be to this level? maybe yes maybe not,, but as i always say ,,if you have a physiqe that meant to look like frank zane...thats what you should go for...if you hav ephysiqe that meant to look like sergio...thats what you should go for ,, you should be able to recognize your weakneses faily early and your strength ,, again most physiqes can look impressive and its not always size dependent! in npc condition > size,,yes you need ENOUGH SIZE,, fella like leaf bug at 183lb wont win a national show ,,but put on him another 14lb and he will win it! mainly due to condition ,,


some fellas lose lots of weight on the way to stage,, they tell you they are 240 then you see them on stage 202 and look like balonie,, some fellas walk around in gym 215 ....not that impressive 5'9 and then you see them on stage 200+ of shredded sculpted statue and they win! ,,

only thing that matter is ON STAGE ,,nothing else,, offstage its alot to do with how you hold water in the muscle,, how you hold water outside the muscle... how you take the picture,, do you hav eother fellas around you while takin the pics,, the lighting,, the bodyfat on the lower back and water on lower back that from the back is the most important thing,, you flip a bodybuild to its back liek a turtle on hsi shell and you can see everything that is lacking or not,, there are lines who got to be there inorder to know you are onthe right track ,,lines on the back! specific points of the back got to be dialed in even 10 weeks out they have to

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #106 on: June 27, 2011, 04:03:27 PM »
in bold.... SO FUCKING TRUE!!!!!

Bboy serious question. why the complete 180 recently? I mean you gotta admit you were a huge douchebag back in the day on promuscle pimping the importance of diet and how drugs did not matter much (: You have the physique to back it up , so Dante and those fags keep their mouth shut when you speak on there about "the truth" , fortunately. But did it really take you 10 or more years of juicing to figure out the truth? ;)
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2011, 04:23:04 PM »
How in the world would he be lying if he's under 225 at 5'5" looking the way that he does???

I could under stand if he was 250 and he looked like this at his height but you're really reaching calling him a liar.

Maybe he just decided to stop playing around and get serious about the dosages so when its time to sit down the response is "hey I did everything I could to do well" and not "oh what if bla bla bla"

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #108 on: June 27, 2011, 04:33:31 PM »
How in the world would he be lying if he's under 225 at 5'5" looking the way that he does???

I could under stand if he was 250 and he looked like this at his height but you're really reaching calling him a liar.

Maybe he just decided to stop playing around and get serious about the dosages so when its time to sit down the response is "hey I did everything I could to do well" and not "oh what if bla bla bla"
WOW in bold.... EXACTLY!!!!!
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #109 on: June 27, 2011, 04:35:46 PM »
Bboy serious question. why the complete 180 recently? I mean you gotta admit you were a huge douchebag back in the day on promuscle pimping the importance of diet and how drugs did not matter much (: You have the physique to back it up , so Dante and those fags keep their mouth shut when you speak on there about "the truth" , fortunately. But did it really take you 10 or more years of juicing to figure out the truth? ;)
there is another reason and i can't say why on here, but lets just say i ventured to a message board and did some reading and someone really impressed me and made me rethink how i was going about things.   ;)
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #110 on: June 27, 2011, 04:42:24 PM »
bro i have told you the truth? thats all i can do, its the internet, i can't sit here and take a lie detector test or something for you, anyways whether you believe me or not isn't important, the increase in GH is fucking magic, its all that gh15 said it is, im truly floored by the way my body has responded. and those guys you have mentioned and their dosages, well when they are 39 yrs old and have been slinging iron nonstop since they were 13 yrs old then they shouldn't need super mega doses to have a pretty thick physique, i got more time under tension than 90% of the board (probably). also if i were truly worried about a pro card on the line then i wouldn't even talk about AAS.

I told you the TRUTH..... GH15 told you the TRUTH, theres nothing more i can do for the doubters

I do not follow this statement???

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #111 on: June 27, 2011, 04:57:05 PM »
Those ratios sound like what Brad would run.  He's always been a low dose guy....too low of a dose considering his genetics for the sport.  Those numbers are a nice jump up from what he was using 5 years ago.

Those aren't exactly twink doses either....If he said he was running 2g of test and 50mg dbol a day during the offseason, no one would consider that a low dose, but that dose with test and dbol is probably "less" than what he lists here when you consider the mg per mg strength of the different gear.

Plus, like a few have said....there is some kind of magic ledge at the 6-8iu/day of growth that makes you realize what all the GH hype is all about.  If you're only ran up to about 5-6iu doses, you'd think growth is a waste of money....but somehow adding a few more iu/day seems like a whole new drug. 
There is a similar jump around 12iu a day.....and then another "ledge" where you just turn to an acromegalic shitface around 20iu or so, but after that 8iu and 12iu response bump....it's hard for guys not to want to try going higher and higher.
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #112 on: June 27, 2011, 05:11:34 PM »
I do not follow this statement???
in response to flinstones1 #102 reply, first sentence of his reply.

he said "If you were in Bboy's shoes would you tell the truth if you had a pro card on the line? I sure as fuck wouldn't"

my response is " if i was worried about a pro card and saying what i use, then i wouldn't even talk about AAS."

does that explain??
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #113 on: June 27, 2011, 05:18:26 PM »
Exactly. Here is a question for some of you guys. If you were in Bboy's shoes would you tell the truth if you had a pro card on the line? I sure as fuck wouldn't. :D I'm not saying he is lying but there is always a chance he is playing everyone. Lately he is Acting like he's an "all drugs" guy but his doses are not that high. Kind of like Tom prince. Remember he posted his cycle and everyone was in love with the dude for being honest with his doses. But everyone knows the truth wasnt all there now was it :D
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IF I WAS BBOY ID ABSOLUTELY TELL THE TRUTH. THEY ALL BLANKET US FROM THE SECRET AND THATS USING MORE AND MORE HORMONES.

I MEAN IVE SEEN MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE GET RIPPED OR BULK UP FROM A KETO DIET TO A CARB CYCLING TO A LOW FAT/HIGHCARB/HIGH PRO DIET. SO MANY WAYS TO SKIN A CAT. IVE SEEN TONS OF GOOD TRAINING PROGRAMS...DOGGCRAPP, HIT, HIGH VOLUME. ETC. SO TONS OF WAYS TO BUILD MASS. BUT YOU CAN BRING THOSE ELEMENTS TO ANYBODY AND ANYONE...THE DIFFERENCE IS THE DRUGS.

SO NO, ITS NOT THE "RIGHT" DIET AND TRAINING. IT'S THE RIGHT HORMONE USAGE WITH DIET & TRAINING. YOU CANT EAT MORE FOOD AND UTILIZE IT PROPERLY WITHOUT HORMONES, AND YOU CANT GET SO PROGRESSIVE WITH WEIGHT TRANING WITHOUT HORMONES.

ITS WHAT IM LEARNING. IM JUST A POOR GUY SO I STICK TO MY CURRENT DOSAGE OF 375MG TEST/WKLY + 25MG PROVIRON/DAILY. ILL UP THE DOSE SOON ENOUGH THOUGH.
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #114 on: June 27, 2011, 05:19:07 PM »
in response to flinstones1 #102 reply, first sentence of his reply.

he said "If you were in Bboy's shoes would you tell the truth if you had a pro card on the line? I sure as fuck wouldn't"

my response is " if i was worried about a pro card and saying what i use, then i wouldn't even talk about AAS."

does that explain??

You are saying admitting to use has nothing to do with your chances to win?

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #115 on: June 27, 2011, 05:23:55 PM »
What do you guys mean keep the waste small or make it tighter or smaller, how do u do that?

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #116 on: June 27, 2011, 05:28:06 PM »
there is another reason and i can't say why on here, but lets just say i ventured to a message board and did some reading and someone really impressed me and made me rethink how i was going about things.   ;)
I remember reading about the world championships where buselmo was talking about the middle eastern guys and then seeing them and thinking...hmm...maybe they're onto something.  :)

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #117 on: June 27, 2011, 05:33:47 PM »
You are saying admitting to use has nothing to do with your chances to win?
LOL im saying that is if was sooooo hell bent on a pro card and i actually thought that telling what I "might" take if it was legal was going to effect my chances at a pro card then i wouldn't even have mentioned AAS... pretty much im not worried about it. this sport is chemical warefare plain and simple, why lie?
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #118 on: June 27, 2011, 05:39:18 PM »
It really is who can use the amounts without blowing out organs and even then some guys blow out organs and still try to compete (why I have no clue). Just a tip though, if you mess around and have a heart attack or liver failure you really need to think about your health and put the pin down my man!

GH15 explained that you pretty much have to be a fuck up or a druggie and either go doing recreational drugs or bombing out on orals like several pros we've heard about who liked to do 3+ orals plus superdrol and halodrol for months on end plus tren and other fun goodies. Now if you're dumb enough to do some shit like this, you don't deserve your liver as far as im concerned...

Oh and food for thought. gh15 always talks about ice cream before bed...well watch that video with steve kuclo and his wife and listen to what she eats everyday before bed. Coincidence, I think not....

and shes a pro just for the record  ;)

b-boy will be just fine. He's been through more than a few battles which should prove pretty useful at north americans.

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #119 on: June 27, 2011, 05:40:00 PM »
HEY BBOY WHY DO YOU THINK MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION...BORDERLINE PRO STATUS OR ON THE VERGE PRO STATUS ARE SO DISCREET ABOUT THE USAGE? WHY DO YOU FEEL THEY ARENT AS OPEN AS YOU?

I KNOW THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, BUT...
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #120 on: June 27, 2011, 06:07:59 PM »
HEY BBOY WHY DO YOU THINK MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION...BORDERLINE PRO STATUS OR ON THE VERGE PRO STATUS ARE SO DISCREET ABOUT THE USAGE? WHY DO YOU FEEL THEY ARENT AS OPEN AS YOU?

I KNOW THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, BUT...
don't know, maybe cause they are so hell bent on a pro card that it consumes them and they think that talking about AAs is going to somehow piss off the powers to be and keep them from their dream, also they fear they may not get that big money supplement contract they want and need so badly by saying their accomplishments came from a needle instead of a protein jug?
HONESTLY.... I have no fucking idea?

I got a real job, a great retirement and not hell bent on a pro card that will probably do nothing but cost me money and not make me shit. if i get one fine, if not it was fun trying. I compete cause i like to watch my body turn into freak status when i diet down, I will always lift weights.


besides i don't take AAS, it is illegal, i just type out what i would take if i lived in another country and didn't have to compete natural.
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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #121 on: June 27, 2011, 06:13:39 PM »
HEY BBOY WHY DO YOU THINK MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION...BORDERLINE PRO STATUS OR ON THE VERGE PRO STATUS ARE SO DISCREET ABOUT THE USAGE? WHY DO YOU FEEL THEY ARENT AS OPEN AS YOU?

I KNOW THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, BUT...

why should he let anyone know what he does in his private life- what business is it of yours, mine or anyone elses what chemicals he chooses to use?

its a very personal and private thing for a lot of guys for many reasons.

i give him props for even posting openly what he uses. its one thing for me, for example, to say i use *this* *this and *this* cause i am a name with no face. bboy doesnt have that luxury.

takes a lot of balls to stand up and say fuck yeah this is what i use when your face is out there.

props for that.


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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #122 on: June 27, 2011, 06:16:14 PM »
why should he let anyone know what he does in his private life- what business is it of yours, mine or anyone elses what chemicals he chooses to use?

its a very personal and private thing for a lot of guys for many reasons.

i give him props for even posting openly what he uses. its one thing for me, for example, to say i use *this* *this and *this* cause i am a name with no face. bboy doesnt have that luxury.

takes a lot of balls to stand up and say fuck yeah this is what i use when your face is out there.

props for that.



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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #123 on: June 27, 2011, 07:22:45 PM »
Heard BD was over here posting

Bboy serious question. why the complete 180 recently? I mean you gotta admit you were a huge douchebag back in the day on promuscle pimping the importance of diet and how drugs did not matter much (: You have the physique to back it up , so Dante and those fags keep their mouth shut when you speak on there about "the truth" , fortunately. But did it really take you 10 or more years of juicing to figure out the truth? ;)

Really? Didnt I say already I agreed with him in principle? I think I said that a multiple of times. Dont I sponsor him? LOL 98% of the time Brad and I agree on pretty much everything. My problem with that thread is you had 5'10" 195 pound guys saying "yea im going to load up 12ius of gh a day"..... Anyone read my posts lately on pro muscle where ive repeatedly said GH is the dramatic difference maker and Ive seen some people react to it incredibly (some as low as 3ius a day)....Everyone gets bigger from AAS with very differing results....but some rare gifted individuals explode on GH and Ive seen it more than a few times now. (Sidenote: These guys who explode off GH for some reason.... Ive noticed also get a rather distinct nose growth...seen that too many times to count now also...check M.R's nose in his early years compared to now if you want to see what Im talking about)

I digress: Didnt this board over the years repeatedly accuse Brads friend (in another country) of being loaded to the gills and that he was lying when he reported his friends usage over the last few years at PM? Yes everyone called him a liar. He wasnt lying. For the last few years Brad's friend was using the low dosages he reported (and many people know/knew that except apparently this boards members). So with those low dosages of previous years Brads friend was repeatedly a top contender at national level shows. So much for the 5 grams of test a week, 25ius of insulin, 1000mg a week of deca, tren, equipoise, and 4 Abombs he supposedly was accused of using ("AND EVERYONE MUST USE THAT MUCH") LOL that you repeatedly see on these boards.
    Brads friend is taking a step up this year with GH and is again being truthful.  (and he still isnt using insulin)...so now he is telling the truth to everyone but previously he was lying? The guy has told the truth the whole way.

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Re: 10 weeks out north americans
« Reply #124 on: June 27, 2011, 07:26:46 PM »
who is Brad's friend ?  ???