Cool article on T-Nation

[Stavios]

does it apply to bodybuilding in some ways ?

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/max_out_on_squats_every_day#.Tgq9Tyqg55w.facebook

Slow movements don't help any athlete in any sport. Going slow with light weights is a big no-no
I tend to agree with that

[_bruce_]

Sounds good.

[OptimusPrime1980]

does it apply to bodybuilding in some ways ?

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/max_out_on_squats_every_day#.Tgq9Tyqg55w.facebook

Slow movements don't help any athlete in any sport. Going slow with light weights is a big no-no
I tend to agree with that

i think for a powerlifter yes....
bb not, slow and correct movements are good for hypertrophy.
and the article mentioned training every day, and overtraining not being an issue... i think that is bullshit.
i addopted a trainingstyle from a dude i knew years ago, Boris Kleine, 3 times a week, and 30 minutes.. thats it!
every 4th week a rest week....
works for me, i could not train every day man....

[lvtolft]

To each his own is what I say.  Progressive overload is the name of the game.  There are many bodybuilders with great physiques that train exclusively with heavy weights and lower reps.  There are others that do higher reps and lighter weights and achieve great builds also.
Whatever keeps you going back is what is best for you.

[JP_RC]

To each his own is what I say.  Progressive overload is the name of the game.  There are many bodybuilders with great physiques that train exclusively with heavy weights and lower reps.  There are others that do higher reps and lighter weights and achieve great builds also.
Whatever keeps you going back is what is best for you.

This.

[jedibrat]

At one point, didn't Mentzer recommend slow negatives past failure?

[Stavios]

Well, some of my weightlifter friends do train 5 days a week 2 times per day, not always heavy but they do some kind of squat movements every day and they all have HUGE legs for their size. But they all have fucked up joints and have to ice their knees after every workout

[johnnynoname]

Stavios,

Have you ever met Christian Thibideau?

He's one of the better tnation writers and I think he is around your area?

[#1 Klaus fan]

Moving fast doesn't make you fast, strength makes you fast. 

[Stavios]

Stavios,

Have you ever met Christian Thibideau?

He's one of the better tnation writers and I think he is around your area?

Yop he made me a training program a few years ago but he is a very busy guy.

he trained my good friend Kevin in colorado (you can see Kevin in the videos of the anaconda protocol)

[Stavios]

Moving fast doesn't make you fast, strength makes you fast. 

of course but moving fast with a weight = more power

[lvtolft]

of course but moving fast with a weight = more power

On the concentric part of the movement, yes.

[Stavios]

On the concentric part of the movement, yes.

I say that because I see a lot of "personal trainer" who make their client do a 3-0-3 tempo

I think it's useless

[lvtolft]

I say that because I see a lot of "personal trainer" who make their client do a 3-0-3 tempo

I think it's useless

I think a lot of "personal trainers" are useless
But, for the general population, a normal tempo is fine.  Training powerlifters or bodybuilders is a different story, but they would both have a completely different regimen to achieve the best results.

[Coach is Back!]

does it apply to bodybuilding in some ways ?

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/max_out_on_squats_every_day#.Tgq9Tyqg55w.facebook

Slow movements don't help any athlete in any sport. Going slow with light weights is a big no-no
I tend to agree with that

Except for first step speed.

[#1 Klaus fan]

of course but moving fast with a weight = more power

If you desire to build power, you better move DAMN fast. 3 mph doesn't cut it (max squat).

[Coach is Back!]

I don't know how many of you know of or follow Bret Contreras but very little of what he writes about usually doesn't apply to bodybuilding.

[Stavios]

I don't know how many of you know of or follow Bret Contreras but very little of what he writes about usually doesn't apply to bodybuilding.

never heard of him, i'll google him tonight (no homo) .  Thanks !

[Captain Equipoise]

does it apply to bodybuilding in some ways ?

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/max_out_on_squats_every_day#.Tgq9Tyqg55w.facebook

Slow movements don't help any athlete in any sport. Going slow with light weights is a big no-no
I tend to agree with that

This is how you build up stabilizer muscles, slow twitch fibers, etc.

what do you propose?! to just throw the weight around with momentum?

[Stavios]

This is how you build up stabilizer muscles, slow twitch fibers, etc.

what do you propose?! to just throw the weight around with momentum?

No I am talking about the concentric part !

let's say you do bench press, I am all for lowering the bar in a controled manner, but the pushing part should be done as fast as possible imo

 

[Stavios]

So this guy who trains powerlifters goes against decades of study supporting what luminaries such as Tudor Bompa have developed?

Tell you what, maybe a few of you young turks can take this "max out everyday" routine for a test drive for a year, and come tell me how your knees/hips/ankles are doing. See if they aren't completely torn to shit.

Anyone else but me realize that T-Nation will publish anything as long as its shocking enough to generate traffic and water-cooler talk?
I'd like to see a genetically average guy train like this for a year and not absolutely destroy his body. What a load....

I don't know who's worse...the coach who claims this shit, or Conteras for parroting it for the great unwashed masses so a bunch of pimply-faced teenagers who wipe each other's asses on those forums jizz about "maxing out every day bro" with Anaconda and Mag10.

Oh brother indeed....

I agree to some extent, there are some good articles on there but there are a lot of shitty ones too

[Coach is Back!]

Snx, wtf are you talking about? What shit are you referring to with me? And what is contreras parroting? Do you know bret contreras is? Do you know his credentials?

[Coach is Back!]

1. You mentioned me by name, if I misread, I apologize.

2. Not really Alwyns thing, Nick not really his thing either, Cressy is a baseball guy and could careless about other powerlifting gyms or there methods. I don't know Nick, I read some his stuff, I do know (personally) Alwyn and Eric. Love what Alwyn writes and my wife follows Rachel (his wife)