What I like about you GH15, is how you use real drug tests and blood work on EVERY bodybuilder you talk about for proof. Some guys would just make shit up and talk out there ass with no proof , but not you. 
I would try and debate you with facts but when talking to a GOD it is futile when I am a mere mortal.
atleast you realized your place,,thats an achievment!
there is nothing to debate ,,you are among bunch of lieing scambags over in muscular develop try to get out your love of bodybuild when in reailty you should know whats up and not only in ifbb but every single day in npc and in local mr shmoe in your local no where to be found town in wisconsin americana...
gh15 approved