Study - Diet Sodas are of no benefit to dieters - I call bullshit

[Coach is Back!]

a midget's opinion means nothing. Seriously I like Twister though he knows his stuff...just is picky about what to share

What am I supposed to share?

[Benny B]

How can something that provides ZERO calories be of no benefit to dieters? It's like the logic of voodoo economics...take in less revenue and somehow you'll end up with more money. 

There may be something to diet soda increasing appetite, but you just have to watch for a change in your eating habits. If you're drinking zero calorie soda and then pigging out on lot's of food, OF COURSE you are going to gain weight.

[OneMoreRep]

How can something that provides ZERO calories be of no benefit to dieters? It's like the logic of voodoo economics...take in less revenue and somehow you'll end up with more money. 

There may be something to diet soda increasing appetite, but you just have to watch for a change in your eating habits. If you're drinking zero calorie soda and then pigging out on lot's of food, OF COURSE you are going to gain weight.

Now you're sounding much smarter than what most of these guys pan you out to be.

I agree with benny here..

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[Benny B]

Now you're sounding much smarter than what most of these guys pan you out to be.

I agree with benny here..

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I'm not one to toot my own horn in real life, but since this is getbig..."Most of these guys" offering their opinion on me are complete idiots and butthurt racists with half the education and even less of the success in life that I've achieved. Consider the sources, bud. 

[Dr Kincaid]

Diet soda is the quickest way to being a fatty.
Sad they are now replacing the sugar in non diet drinks with artificial shit cause it;s cheaper.

[Coach is Back!]

How can something that provides ZERO calories be of no benefit to dieters? It's like the logic of voodoo economics...take in less revenue and somehow you'll end up with more money. 

There may be something to diet soda increasing appetite, but you just have to watch for a change in your eating habits. If you're drinking zero calorie soda and then pigging out on lot's of food, OF COURSE you are going to gain weight.

There's more to it than that my naive little liberal gnome.

[Coach is Back!]

Studies: Why Diet Sodas Are No Benefit to Dieters

By Meredith Melnick

http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/29/studies-why-diet-sodas-are-no-boon-to-dieters/?hpt=he_c2

More bad news, diet soda drinkers: data presented recently at the American Diabetes Association's (ADA) Scientific Sessions suggest that diet drinks may actually contribute to weight gain and that the artificial sweeteners in them could potentially contribute Type 2 diabetes.
 
In one study, researchers from the School of Medicine at The University of Texas Health Science Center San Antonio, looked at aggregate data from 474 older adults in the San Antonio Longitudinal Study of Aging, or SALSA. At the time of enrollment and at three follow-up exams thereafter, all participants reported their diet soda intake and were measured for height, weight and waist circumference. The researchers wanted to track any association between diet soda drinking and body fat over time.
 
What they found was that all participants saw their waistlines expand, but those who reported drinking diet soda had 70% greater increases in waistline growth than non-drinkers 9.5 years later. Among frequent drinkers — those who consumed two or more diet sodas a day — waistline growth was 500% greater than among non-drinkers. Researchers said their results were adjusted for other contributing factors like diabetes status, leisure-time physical activity level and age.
 
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The data didn't say why diet sodas might play a role in weight gain, but previous research suggests it has to do with the disconnect between the taste of artificial sugars and their lack of calories. The brain is wired to expect a big load of calories when foods taste sweet or fatty. But because diet foods fail to deliver, it throws the brain out of whack. Studies in animals suggest that artificial sweetener consumption may lead to even more eating and weight gain, perhaps in part because it triggers the body to start storing more calories as fat.
 
Excess weight, especially around the belly, as measured in the SALSA participants, is a risk factor for a variety of ills, including cardiovascular disease and diabetes.
 
In another study presented at the ADA meeting, researchers found an association between consumption of aspartame, an artificial sweetener found in many diet drinks, and elevated fasting glucose levels in mice.
 
The researchers, also from the School of Medicine at The University of Texas Health Science Center San Antonio, fed 40 mice their typical chow with added corn oil (to make the diet high-fat). For the half the mice, researchers also added aspartame to their food. After three months, researchers found that the mice in the aspartame group had elevated fasting glucose levels, an indication of a diabetic or pre-diabetic condition.
 
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Of course, the findings aren't directly translatable to humans, but the researchers think they're still meaningful. "These results suggest that heavy aspartame exposure might potentially directly contribute to increased blood glucose levels, and thus contribute to the associations observed between diet soda consumption and the risk of diabetes in humans," said Dr. Gabriel Fernandes, a University of Texas professor of rheumatology and clinical immunology, in a statement.
 
Maybe it's time to switch to water.



Whenever I get into serious dieting, I always switch to diet soda (the likes of Coke Zero or Diet Dr. Pepper) and it substitutes my regular sodas just fine.  As a matter of fact, they have a filling effect on me and can keep me from consuming other crap filled with calories.

Discuss..
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BTW, studies have been around like this for years, this is just resurrected. Years ago I had a debate with people on here. Some people understood and got while others just called me names. (what else is new )

[chaos]

Oh damn, "the coach" didn't think it was funny, what am I going to do?

 

Try suicide.

[flinstones1]

BTW, studies have been around like this for years, this is just resurrected. Years ago I had a debate with people on here. Some people understood and got while others just called me names. (what else is new )

explain in detail. You like to throw bits and pieces of info without any proof to make you sound smart and like you dont have time when in reality you dont know wat your talking about. Just like how you claim insulin messes up metabolic processes and leads to diabetes..

[Coach is Back!]

Look up my old posts from like 4-5 years ago. I'm not going to rehash it. Its there.

[jmt1]

You do realize that is irrational.  There is nothing wrong whatsoever with aspartame.

Irrational?   

There are a number of health issues that can be linked directly to the use of aspertame.  When I was drinking diet pepsi and crystal light I started to get frequent headaches and eventually migraines almost everyday.  I cut the aspertame out completely and my headaches were gone within days.

[The Grim Lifter]

Does this mean Slurpee's are bad too? Fuck it i burn them off in 5 minutes

[OTHstrong]

BS BS BS,.... no amount of diet soda can make you gain fat PERIOD, the most shredded I've been in my life with striations in my glutes, was drinking 2 litres of diet soda per day, maybe even more, still lost 40 lb in 10 weeks, in fact diet soda is great for dealing with hunger.

[Army of One]

Complete nonsense article, the only people who drink diet soda are the health conscious (10%) and the already overweight  (90%) who delude themselves that drinking Diet Soda will somehow benefit them while they chug down their daily 4000 calories.So is it any shock the findings are skewed to the slobs?

[freespirit]

Water, thee, and 1 or 2 glasses of whine. Trying to drink less coffee.

[The True Adonis]

Water, thee, and 1 or 2 glasses of whine. Trying to drink less coffee.

You would be doing yourself a better favor health wise if you increased the coffee consumption.

[tbombz]

i remember coach's argument about diet soda. it was that because we tasted something sweet, our bodies respnded as if we did eat soemthing sweet.. ie .. release insulin...

but the only issue is... insulin doesnt have calories lol..   insulin release in absence of caloric intake (glucose intake) would actually be a positive thing so long as bg didnt drop into dangerous levels..



i think stavios said he drinks 2 2liters of diet soda everyday during his prep...   

[loco]

There are a number of health issues that can be linked directly to the use of aspertame.  When I was drinking diet pepsi and crystal light I started to get frequent headaches and eventually migraines almost everyday.  I cut the aspertame out completely and my headaches were gone within days.

Interesting!  Got any links to any medical articles or scientific studies?  I am not aware of any health issues having been linked to any artificial sweetener. 

[dyslexic]

BTW, studies have been around like this for years, this is just resurrected. Years ago I had a debate with people on here. Some people understood and got while others just called me names. (what else is new )

This is exactly what I was gonna say. These diet soda vs. regular soda studies been around a long fucking time now.



Here's the rub: Youre' in a caloric deficit. Your'e scared shitless of carbs. You drink diet soda thinking you got no carbs, no sugar, all is cool, right?


Well, for some yes, and others "no"-- the body still senses the EXTREME sweetness of the fake sugar and for some people, their bodies are tricked into thinking that they are getting a big burst of sugar--so the insulin responds anyway (before it has a chance to realize it was a "trick")


There is also some question as to the toxicity and reaction of certain hormones to these fake/synthetic sugars that the body cannot negotiate- also the effect in diabetics- I guess I'll stop now. The page keeps hiding my sentences. WTF is that all about? Typing blind here

[True]

It's nonsense to say diet soda can make you fat.  I've dieted for shows and kept diet soda in the mix until about 5 days out.  The only reason I don't touch the diet stuff anymore is because of the aspertame. 

Exactly! I do the same thing. Keep my diet soda in check aaaaaall throughout the diet. No problem what so ever. Its all about cals in and cals out. And since most diet sodas are as low as 0.1 cals, there is no way in hell its going to make you fat... So mind the retards.

True...yes it can.

^^Like this one.

[JP_RC]

What's so wrong with insulin? In a deficit it won't matter at all imo.

[dyslexic]

I'll start another "reply" -- these studies have been somewhat "controlled" but not enough to my liking. Too many variables.


Here's some more shit, but not "controlled" - more theoretical than anything:

"There was a 41 percent increase in risk of being overweight  for every can or bottle of diet soft drink a person consumes each day," Fowler says.

Ok, as if we didn't already know how bad regular soda was for us, and now they're showing us studies that diet soda makes us even fatter than the already bad stuff!

There's a lot of complicating factors as to why this occurs...

One reason is that the artificial sweeteners in diet sodas create a negative hormonal response in the body that increases fat storing hormone production and increases cravings for more sweets and refined carbohydrates in the time period after consuming the diet drink.

Another reason is that people may subconsciously think that because they are drinking a diet soda, that gives them more leeway to eat more of everything else, hence consuming more calories overall.

[True]

How can something that provides ZERO calories be of no benefit to dieters? It's like the logic of voodoo economics...take in less revenue and somehow you'll end up with more money. 

There may be something to diet soda increasing appetite, but you just have to watch for a change in your eating habits. If you're drinking zero calorie soda and then pigging out on lot's of food, OF COURSE you are going to gain weight.

That is an EXCUSE to blame diet sodas for fat gain and nothing more. People need to get their head of their asses and realize its not the diet sodas fault, its their own damn fault for lacking in incredible willpower to stay away from other junk resources. Show me a REAL article that states that diet soda and DIET SODA ONLY makes you fat. I am patiently waiting................. .............

[GroinkTropin]

What about diet Snapple? I love that shit. Crystal light???

[The Abdominal Snoman]

What about diet Snapple?

To fruity. But refreshing.