Author Topic: Macho Man bad heart killed him (Read 3844 times)

Largerthanlife · « **on:** June 30, 2011, 03:33:51 PM »

Ok how many times do steroid users who are lifetime users have to die of heart related deaths for you people to accept steroids are bad and will kill you eventually?

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/30/macho-man-randy-savage-cause-of-death-medical-examiner-heart-problem-cardiac-event-car-crash-death/

Hulkotron · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:38:04 PM »

Too many Slim Jims.

Disgusted · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:38:52 PM »

Pain killers and alcohol had nothing to do with it.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:40:08 PM »

Hmm. TMZ(!?) article notes "According to the medical examiner, Savage suffered from cardiovascular disease -- and the deadly "cardiac event" resulted from the condition."

Doesn't say anything about steroids.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:41:28 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 03:38:52 PM

Pain killers and alcohol had nothing to do with it.

Of course they had something to do with it. But do you have the credentials to say steroids didn't have anything to do with it?

Disgusted · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on June 30, 2011, 03:41:28 PM

Of course they had something to do with it. But do you have the credentials to say steroids didn't have anything to do with it?

If you are so worried about credentials then find a guy with credentials that said steroids were the cause of death.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:56:11 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 03:54:29 PM

If you are so worried about credentials then find a guy with credentials that said steroids were the cause of death.

You hinted that there is no way that steroids had an effect.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:01:08 PM »

During the commercial break they are probably running HRT commercials.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:02:15 PM »

Daily does of 40,000 to 90,000 HU's of Cayenne pepper may have really helped him.

Disgusted · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:08:10 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on June 30, 2011, 03:56:11 PM

You hinted that there is no way that steroids had an effect.

No I didn't. I hinted that pain killers and alcohol DID. Steroids had ZERO to do with it.

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:13:43 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 04:08:10 PM

No I didn't. I hinted that pain killers and alcohol DID. Steroids had ZERO to do with it.

how do you know this?

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:15:41 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Magoo on June 30, 2011, 04:13:43 PM

how do you know this?

He has Blue Stars.

Largerthanlife · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:16:11 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on June 30, 2011, 03:56:11 PM

You hinted that there is no way that steroids had an effect.

x2

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:16:33 PM »

Quote from: Doug_Steele on June 30, 2011, 04:15:41 PM

He has Blue Stars.

Largerthanlife · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:17:06 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 04:08:10 PM

No I didn't. I hinted that pain killers and alcohol DID. Steroids had ZERO to do with it.

bwhwahhahahhahhahahahhah ahhaahahahahhahahahwhahw hahwhhahwha, it's called denial.

Disgusted · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:20:29 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Magoo on June 30, 2011, 04:13:43 PM

how do you know this?

Been around many guys the last 30 years who have used steroids. Some are drugs users as in rec drugs and alcohol. These guys always have probs. Other guys for example I'll give you two who I know personally and have talked into having an EBT scan within the last year.

First guy 42 done steroids for 15 years straight 800 mgs daily. Almost never off. Never done rec drugs rarley drank. EBT scan showed 10% block in one artery rest were clear.

Second guy 49 been using for almost 30 years. On average uses 1500 mgs test weekly almost never takes breaks. NEVER DRINKS and NEVER uses rec drugs. EBT scan shows zero blockage in all arteries. This is real life no BS medical tests on real life steroid "abusers". All other tests show healthy individuals. Both had high cholesterol, but no blocks. That kinda makes one woner doesn't it?

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:25:42 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 04:20:29 PM

Been around many guys the last 30 years who have used steroids. Some are drugs users as in rec drugs and alcohol. These guys always have probs. Other guys for example I'll give you two who I know personally and have talked into have an EBT scan within the last year.

First guy 42 done steroids for 15 years straight 800 mgs daily. Almost never off. Never done rec drugs rarley drank. EBT scan showed 10 block in one artery rest were clear.

Second guy 49 been using for almost 30 years. On average uses 1500 mgs test weekly almost never takes breaks. NEVER DRINKS and NEVER uses rec drugs. EBT scan shows zero blockage in all arteries. This is real life no BS medical tests on real life steroid "abusers". All other tests show healthy individuals. Both had high cholesterol, but no blocks. That kinda makes one woner doesn't it?

You need to reword your original statement. You do not KNOW that steroids had ZERO impact on macho man. Maybe the two you know personally are the abnormal. Maybe Macho Man was the first human ever to be affected by steroids. That is the problem with induction, it doesn't deliver necessary conclusions, only probable ones. You cannot claim a certain conclusion, only a probable conclusion. You do not know that steroids had zero impact, you can only say "it is probable steroids did not have a large impact."

Hulkotron · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:25:48 PM »

Who the fuck takes 800 mg of steroids daily?

Disgusted · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:27:48 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Magoo on June 30, 2011, 04:25:42 PM

You need to reword your original statement. You do not KNOW that steroids had ZERO impact on macho man. Maybe the two you know personally are the abnormal. Maybe Macho Man was the first human ever to be affected by steroids. That is the problem with induction, it doesn't deliver necessary conclusions, only probable ones. You cannot claim a certain conclusion, only a probable conclusion. You do not know that steroids had zero impact, you can only say "it is probable steroids did not have a large impact."

OK maybe he was the first human ever to be affected.

Disgusted · « **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on June 30, 2011, 04:25:48 PM

Who the fuck takes 800 mg of steroids daily?

A lot of guys do. This guy would use 500 test daily with roughly 300 mgs of an anabolic. I'm not condoning it, but they are out there.

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:38:27 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on June 30, 2011, 04:27:48 PM

OK maybe he was the first human ever to be affected.

maybe you don't know the difference between induction and deduction

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WillGrant · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:11:18 PM »

Quote from: Largerthanlife on June 30, 2011, 04:17:06 PM

bwhwahhahahhahhahahahhahahhaahahahahhahahahwhahwhahwhhahwha, it's called denial.

STFU Fa99ot

cephissus · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:18:00 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Magoo on June 30, 2011, 04:25:42 PM

You need to reword your original statement. You do not KNOW that steroids had ZERO impact on macho man. Maybe the two you know personally are the abnormal. Maybe Macho Man was the first human ever to be affected by steroids. That is the problem with induction, it doesn't deliver necessary conclusions, only probable ones. You cannot claim a certain conclusion, only a probable conclusion. You do not know that steroids had zero impact, you can only say "it is probable steroids did not have a large impact."

Good post.

Cliff Clavin · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:24:14 PM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on June 30, 2011, 04:02:15 PM

Daily does of 40,000 to 90,000 HU's of Cayenne pepper may have really helped him.

how so my brother?