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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2011, 10:28:16 PM »
simple terms,,

you wont get bigger muscle from squating heavier! or lifting heavier!,, heavy lifting has a lot to do with the tendoin and with the bone strength,,

at the beggining of your lifting first few years the strangth will be paralel to muscle diameter growth ,, then after those few years....it will come to a stop and ONLY increasing the dose and changing the products and working it all together will MAYBE result in bigger diameter to the muscle ...depending if youre maxed from hormones or not

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
simple terms,,

you wont get bigger muscle from squating heavier! or lifting heavier!,, heavy lifting has a lot to do with the tendoin and with the bone strength,,

at the beggining of your lifting first few years the strangth will be paralel to muscle diameter growth ,, then after those few years....it will come to a stop and ONLY increasing the dose and changing the products and working it all together will MAYBE result in bigger diameter to the muscle ...depending if youre maxed from hormones or not

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Thanks...I agree with that. Genetics and training plays a huge role, more so than hormones. I remember Levrone at his best had huge, detailed legs then a year or two later they were undersized and no where near what they used to be. You're correct about squatting heavier (and I'm assuming with lower reps). Volume training has always been king when it comes to training + "hormones".....even without the "hormones".

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2011, 10:35:30 PM »
I favour doing high reps full-squats




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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2011, 10:35:45 PM »
i have to disagree with you gh15. i think some guys are simply not built for squatting...long legs ect but i think if you can squat without pain or injury you should. it hits the whole lower body. you sometimes even tell..especially on a local level who squats and who doesn't..perhaps it because they are not on as many or as much drugs...don;t know.

dorain said he stopped doing barbel squats because of his long legs he wasn't built for them..he felt the leg press and hacks were more benefical for growth for HIS body..but he said if you are able that you should do them
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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2011, 10:40:39 PM »
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Smith machine squats or bb squats?

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2011, 10:43:21 PM »
hack squats and legg press ,, mainly hack squats

smith machine is good if you load heavy weight and want to be more safe...barbel squats should hae spotter,,but in general im tellin you thiis again and again squats BUILD THE FUCKIN ASS,, hack squats is what you want,, and yes it is height dependent,, taller fellas hacks for sure,, shorter ones can do both squats and hacks

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2011, 10:44:46 PM »
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Smith machine squats or bb squats?

For bbing purposes.

years ago before I knew better I squatted on a smith machine for a show and my legs looked like shit (small). Switched back to regular squats and they blew back up.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2011, 10:46:29 PM »
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2011, 10:51:35 PM »
years ago before I knew better I squatted on a smith machine for a show and my legs looked like shit (small). Switched back to regular squats and they blew back up.

Are you shorter than 6'00? I am 6'2 ish and my fuckin legs are strong, but have very little size and i bust my ass on barbell squats. My ass just got bigger.  >:(
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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2011, 10:58:23 PM »
hack squats and legg press ,, mainly hack squats

smith machine is good if you load heavy weight and want to be more safe...barbel squats should hae spotter,,but in general im tellin you thiis again and again squats BUILD THE FUCKIN ASS,, hack squats is what you want,, and yes it is height dependent,, taller fellas hacks for sure,, shorter ones can do both squats and hacks

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Thanks big guy.

I have moved on to a new gym for holidays, and they dont have the "hardcore" squat rack. But I noticed they have a very good smith machine...so i will stick to it for 2 months..

p.s before leg training i always inject both quads.  :D ;D  ;)

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2011, 11:03:39 PM »
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

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Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2011, 11:07:47 PM »
Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.

Could be true, but you can wrap them, right?
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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2011, 11:11:36 PM »
Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.

biomecanic can kiss my ass,,together with canadian vince 2 dianabola tablets a day ,, together with your 200mg cyp a week lol
do me a favour and dont tell me what destroy what,, i did them for years and develop very big legs,, denise does them now and has humongus legs,, mishko the serb also favorite them ,,hacks are very good best for legs,, you think i will go put on my shoulder big heavy squats barbell when im loaded with 150-200mg of anapolona in my blood? what am i nuts? we go hacks it wotn fall on us and we can do the movement decent and our ass will not grow biger,,its enough the oil that is inside it no need to make it even biger

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2011, 11:13:04 PM »
Could be true, but you can wrap them, right?

Yes, it slows the process but will eventually still catch up.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2011, 11:18:50 PM »
biomecanic can kiss my ass,,together with canadian vince 2 dianabola tablets a day ,, together with your 200mg cyp a week lol
do me a favour and dont tell me what destroy what,, i did them for years and develop very big legs,, denise does them now and has humongus legs,, mishko the serb also favorite them ,,hacks are very good best for legs,, you think i will go put on my shoulder big heavy squats barbell when im loaded with 150-200mg of anapolona in my blood? what am i nuts? we go hacks it wotn fall on us and we can do the movement decent and our ass will not grow biger,,its enough the oil that is inside it no need to make it even biger

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LOL...I didn't say they didn't help in size, I said they would eventually fuck up your knees. See, this is the problem with bodybuilding and it's training, 90% know nothing about training and could careless how it fucks up joints as long as they get big. Here's a little fact son...........you can't squat, do hacks or even play on your little machines if you compete and your knees are jacked up. Just to add about Milos....his knees are fucked. (and not because he's in jail.)

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2011, 11:23:32 PM »
but MINE ARE NOT AND I DONE HACKS FOR MANY MANY YEARS ,, lol what are you talkin about im tellin you my knees are ok ,,maybe when i get a cane after i have been tried to get assasinated ill thikn diffrently ,, but i can assure you my knee problem will probably be from the bullet and not from the hacks lol

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2011, 11:24:35 PM »
jesus i have been tried to get assasinated lol i really buchered that sentence haha lol how the fuck did i come up with this grammer shit lol

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2011, 11:50:58 PM »
Hacks are f**king knee destroyers!!

Only if you're wreckless. Hacks almost promote bouncing at the bottom and that will kill your knees doing it often enough and heavy enough. Go slow and controlled.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2011, 11:59:06 PM »
Only if you're wreckless. Hacks almost promote bouncing at the bottom and that will kill your knees doing it often enough and heavy enough. Go slow and controlled.

That too, but just sheer force from the femur coming off the tibia on an angled plain (45 degrees depending on the machine) creating more force on the patella tendon. Remember the patella is a sesamoid or "floating" bone.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2011, 12:03:42 AM »
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

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Shorter guys develop anything better or at least better illusion...

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2011, 01:22:47 AM »
THANKS DUTCH !!!!


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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2011, 01:40:41 AM »
My best squatting poundages and reps:
225 - 27 reps at about 155 pounds bodyweight
275 - 20  about 165 pounds bodyweight
315 - 2 sets of 10 reps at about 165 pounds bodyweight
370 - for a triple at about 165 pounds bodyweight
405 - 1 rep max at about 165 pounds bodyweight

All done slightly below paralell................ ...........result,zero quad size and a fucked up lower back!!

My legs don`t grow for shit, but look better now with me doing mostly leg presses or unilateral leg presses......still my worst bodypart and I train them hard as hell.

We don`t have a hack machine at our gym (on a college campus......only gym in town),but heavy hacks are what originally fucked up my back..........but I was ego training and I do love hacks as a quad movement if you have a good machine that lessens the pressure on the knees.

Some older model hack machines are just knee wreckers..........PERIOD :(

My legs look like shit to this day......no size,my knees are fine,but my back should be hospitalized.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2011, 01:49:03 AM »
My best squatting poundages and reps:
225 - 27 reps at about 155 pounds bodyweight
275 - 20  about 165 pounds bodyweight
315 - 2 sets of 10 reps at about 165 pounds bodyweight
370 - for a triple at about 165 pounds bodyweight
405 - 1 rep max at about 165 pounds bodyweight

All done slightly below paralell................ ...........result,zero quad size and a fucked up lower back!!

My legs don`t grow for shit, but look better now with me doing mostly leg presses or unilateral leg presses......still my worst bodypart and I train them hard as hell.

We don`t have a hack machine at our gym (on a college campus......only gym in town),but heavy hacks are what originally fucked up my back..........but I was ego training and I do love hacks as a quad movement if you have a good machine that lessens the pressure on the knees.

Some older model hack machines are just knee wreckers..........PERIOD :(

My legs look like shit to this day......no size,my knees are fine,but my back should be hospitalized.
Thats the only thing that matters..stay healthy.  8)

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2011, 01:50:46 AM »
True,at least my back problems come and go in spurtz and aren`t contstant anymore.

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Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2011, 01:55:15 AM »
maybe your back doesnt believe in squats wes? haha