Thom Hartmann: Name ONE! shared sacrifice by the wealthy?

[blacken700]

[Soul Crusher]

Geithner, Summers, Rubin, Romer, Ratner, Big Ben, Cohen, Pritzger, et al agree with you! 

[whork25]

Nothing new the rich gets spared and the poor pays

Thats republican policy

[Kazan]

Nothing new the rich gets spared and the poor pays

Thats republican policy

Really? How exactly do the poor pay when about 50% don't even pay income tax? You notice how the democrats are always screaming about raising income tax? Look at most of the "rich" and see what actual income they are taxed on. It's an empty argument and more feel good bullshit that only ends screwing the middle class, just like everything else the democrats do.

[blacken700]

Really? How exactly do the poor pay when about 50% don't even pay income tax? You notice how the democrats are always screaming about raising income tax? Look at most of the "rich" and see what actual income they are taxed on. It's an empty argument and more feel good bullshit that only ends screwing the middle class, just like everything else the democrats do.

the middle class, todays new poor

[MCWAY]

Really? How exactly do the poor pay when about 50% don't even pay income tax? You notice how the democrats are always screaming about raising income tax? Look at most of the "rich" and see what actual income they are taxed on. It's an empty argument and more feel good bullshit that only ends screwing the middle class, just like everything else the democrats do.

And how much moolah are all these blubbering progressives/liberals coughing up, since they're so hot under the collar about "shared sacrifice"?

As I said on HP, Arrianna "Zsa Zsa" Huffington just dumped her site on AOL for $315 million. How much of that loot is she sharing?

[Soul Crusher]

the middle class, todays new poor

Yeah - paying more for health care, getting their $$$ devalued, more obama induced inflation in food due to his energy policies, new mexican trucking bullshit putting truckers out of work, killing off the fishing industry, etc.  


Obama, like those you accuse of this, is making this terribly worse.  

[blacken700]

Yeah - paying more for health care, getting their $$$ devalued, more obama induced inflation in food due to his energy policies, new mexican trucking bullshit putting truckers out of work, killing off the fishing industry, etc.  


Obama, like those you accuse of this, is making this terribly worse.  

the difference between you and me is that i think just about all politicians are crooks and you think only the dems are,what you have to do is get a life, your on here 24/7. go get yourself a girlfriend or boyfriend, depending how you swing and enjoy yourself. the world does not revolve around getbig

[MCWAY]

the difference between you and me is that i think just about all politicians are crooks and you think only the dems are,what you have to do is get a life, your on here 24/7. go get yourself a girlfriend or boyfriend, depending how you swing and enjoy yourself. the world does not revolve around getbig

Where you get that deduction? 333386 loathes anything with the last name of "Bush". He can't stand Romney (though he'd vote for Jack the Ripper or Casey Anthony over Obama at this point). And, he ain't all that fond of Newt.

[whork25]

Really? How exactly do the poor pay when about 50% don't even pay income tax? You notice how the democrats are always screaming about raising income tax? Look at most of the "rich" and see what actual income they are taxed on. It's an empty argument and more feel good bullshit that only ends screwing the middle class, just like everything else the democrats do.

Who are these 50% you keep talking about?

[Kazan]

Who are these 50% you keep talking about?

How about taking a look at the tax code, earned income tax credit........, sure money comes out of the check every week but at the end of the year it all comes back in the tax return, and depending on deductions some actually get more back than they paid in. Actually doing a little research on the subject goes a long way, you are exactly what the government is depending on. People that don't bother to verify the bullshit they are spreading. Get those rich bastards

[whork25]

How about taking a look at the tax code, earned income tax credit........, sure money comes out of the check every week but at the end of the year it all comes back in the tax return, and depending on deductions some actually get more back than they paid in. Actually doing a little research on the subject goes a long way, you are exactly what the government is depending on. People that don't bother to verify the bullshit they are spreading. Get those rich bastards

The people who get in more that they pay is companies so yeah those are rich people

Again who are these 50% who doesnt pay taxes?

[Kazan]

The people who get in more that they pay is companies so yeah those are rich people

Again who are these 50% who doesnt pay taxes?

Again look at the tax code, I mean WTF, you need everything spoon fed to you? Go on believing all the BS the government feeds you. In a few more generations we will be just like Europe because you fuckers are to lazy to do any verification. Aren't you the same guy who said I was full of shit that the US is a representative republic and not a democracy?

[GigantorX]

The people who get in more that they pay is companies so yeah those are rich people

Again who are these 50% who doesnt pay taxes?

Kazan is right, just do a little research.

About 50% of the population of ZERO LIABILITY concerning income taxes, in that they pay but get most or all of it back when the tax returns come in and as Kazan mentioned many people even get more money back than they paid in.

Add that to 64% of Americans getting some form of transfer payment from the govt, either welfare, other assistance, food stamps etc and things aren't what they seem when people talk about "shared sacrifice".

There needs to be massive tax reform. Close the loopholes, shelters, credits etc, broaden the tax base, cut the number of brackets and then lower the overall rates.

Just screaming to drive tax rates higher on the upper income tax brackets is pure distraction and class warfare at it's best. You won't raise much revenue at all, if any and the upper brackets capital/cash is highly mobile they will be able to dodge the increased rates if there isn't any reform. The rate hikes will end up hurting small business and such which is a bad thing.

[whork25]

Kazan is right, just do a little research.

About 50% of the population of ZERO LIABILITY concerning income taxes, in that they pay but get most or all of it back when the tax returns come in and as Kazan mentioned many people even get more money back than they paid in.

Add that to 64% of Americans getting some form of transfer payment from the govt, either welfare, other assistance, food stamps etc and things aren't what they seem when people talk about "shared sacrifice".

There needs to be massive tax reform. Close the loopholes, shelters, credits etc, broaden the tax base, cut the number of brackets and then lower the overall rates.

Just screaming to drive tax rates higher on the upper income tax brackets is pure distraction and class warfare at it's best. You won't raise much revenue at all, if any and the upper brackets capital/cash is highly mobile they will be able to dodge the increased rates if there isn't any reform. The rate hikes will end up hurting small business and such which is a bad thing.

Exaple please

[Kazan]

Exaple please

You see all these millionaires coming out supporting income tax increases for the rich, you want to know why? Take a look at these guys and find out what their actually taxable income is. The government is not taxing their wealth, simply their income. This goes back to the tax code and the loop holes that these people pay accountants big money to shelter their money. So go ahead raise taxes on the rich, it would be like adding a thimble of water to the ocean. Why are there all these loop holes? Who makes the tax codes? The government, and most if not all of them are rich.

[whork25]

You see all these millionaires coming out supporting income tax increases for the rich, you want to know why? Take a look at these guys and find out what their actually taxable income is. The government is not taxing their wealth, simply their income. This goes back to the tax code and the loop holes that these people pay accountants big money to shelter their money. So go ahead raise taxes on the rich, it would be like adding a thimble of water to the ocean. Why are there all these loop holes? Who makes the tax codes? The government, and most if not all of them are rich.

Thank you sir thats was the answer i was looking for. Very informative

[tonymctones]

whork(mons anus/benny)

please educate yourself....