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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 03:08:44 PM »
Quote from: Chick on July 07, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
had he followed command, there is no need to escalate....just another moron trying to be a tough guy, ultimately inviting to police to beat him (more) senseless....

No Man, there are a multitude of ways to subdue a person that does not involve beating them up.   Any well trained officer knows how to do this. In the military they taught how to subdue guys like that without resorting to punching and kicking them.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 03:13:24 PM »
Look at how many cops there are and they couldn't roll him over because they're too lazy and too fucking fat.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2011, 03:17:13 PM »
Quote from: snx on July 07, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
"ROLL OVER ON TO YOUR STOMACH!"


I have a feeling a few of those cops might be hearing that line in their cell after they get sentenced.

This was senseless and useless force. The man was no threat to the police or others around him. They beat him mercilessly and could have easily turned him on his stomach with so many of them, and properly restrained him without issue.

Why cops do this when they're being recorded is beyond me. You'd think they'd have thought at least that part through...
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2011, 03:26:00 PM »
Quote from: coltrane on July 07, 2011, 01:45:00 PM
Youre wrong ex "cop"

You only kick a suspect when he is using that same force or one notch below.  An officer is allowed to meet force with like force or one notch above.  Do I need to school you on the force continuum again???   
This guy was on the ground using zero force. 

And your statement that he was "inviting" the police to beat him is hysterical.  Moron you are Chick.

Funny....you never "schooled" anyone on anything....I went through the police academy, we spent a whole bunch of time on it...

That said, had he simply listened and followed command instead of being defiant...the rest never happens. 

it doesn't matter that he was the ground using zero force...he was given a command and decided to act like a retard...the police followed the textbook on giving voice command, repeating it over and over again...even after getting taser, he STILL wouldn't follow command...tells me he ain't all there, or is high, etc...even more reason to take no chances with handling him.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2011, 03:50:30 PM »
Quote from: Chick on July 07, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
Funny....you never "schooled" anyone on anything....I went through the police academy, we spent a whole bunch of time on it...

That said, had he simply listened and followed command instead of being defiant...the rest never happens. 

it doesn't matter that he was the ground using zero force...he was given a command and decided to act like a retard...the police followed the textbook on giving voice command, repeating it over and over again...even after getting taser, he STILL wouldn't follow command...tells me he ain't all there, or is high, etc...even more reason to take no chances with handling him.



Bingo.  Can't stand ppl blaming cops for violence etc.  Its simple, shut the fuck up and listen to what the officer tells you.  Guaranteed you will come out a little more pleased with the result.  Hell, out of the 5 times I've ever been pulled over for speeding, running red light etc, I only received a ticket once.  I simply chose to comply, said I was sorry and didnt give the officer a hard time.  Problem is that most ppl have massive ego's, so how DARE someone with authority over them exercise it without hearing about it ::)
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2011, 03:53:27 PM »
Quote from: Rami on July 07, 2011, 01:31:58 PM
"sustained cracked ribs and a punctured lung after he was stripped naked by deputies, beaten and shocked repeatedly with a Taser gun, according to a Wednesday court filing."






Well, I'm not sure why they did not roll him over for.  Although he didn't comply with the order, he was not resisting.  Looks pretty bad
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2011, 03:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Chick on July 07, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
had he followed command, there is no need to escalate....just another moron trying to be a tough guy, ultimately inviting to police to beat him (more) senseless....
kind of hard to take any thing you say seriously...      homo.....
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2011, 03:59:58 PM »
Quote from: Rami on July 07, 2011, 01:31:58 PM
"sustained cracked ribs and a punctured lung after he was stripped naked by deputies, beaten and shocked repeatedly with a Taser gun, according to a Wednesday court filing."






There are members of this forum that would pay to have this happen to them
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2011, 04:01:23 PM »
Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 03:53:27 PM
Well, I'm not sure why they did not roll him over for.  Although he didn't comply with the order, he was not resisting.  Looks pretty bad

Who gives a shit why they didn't roll him over.  The man was given very fair warning of what would happen if he didn't comply; the result was in his hands.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2011, 04:04:44 PM »
Quote from: Psyckle on July 07, 2011, 03:50:30 PM
Bingo.  Can't stand ppl blaming cops for violence etc.  Its simple, shut the fuck up and listen to what the officer tells you.  Guaranteed you will come out a little more pleased with the result.  Hell, out of the 5 times I've ever been pulled over for speeding, running red light etc, I only received a ticket once.  I simply chose to comply, said I was sorry and didnt give the officer a hard time.  Problem is that most ppl have massive ego's, so how DARE someone with authority over them exercise it without hearing about it ::)

Wow! Your keyboard reaches all the way under your bed.

It must be a terrible thing to live in fear.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2011, 04:06:51 PM »
I'm so glad I live in a free and democratic country where I can respect police and not fear they might assault my home in the middle of the night and start beating the shit out of me or my family.

When I see cop on the streets, I feel safe and I can thank him for his important job.
If I lived in USA, I would be scared when I see a cop and hope he doesn't start beating the fuk out of me when I pass him. Scary even to think that kind of life.


I hope some day all the people in the USA can also enjoy the freedom and live full, joyful, fearless life with their families!



As bad as it sounds, these kind of incidents remind me how lucky I am I was born here in Finland and not in Africa, America or North Korea...

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2011, 04:09:49 PM »
Soveriegn Citizen > Public Servant

There can be no police state without police.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2011, 04:10:02 PM »
Quote from: Psyckle on July 07, 2011, 04:01:23 PM
Who gives a shit why they didn't roll him over.  The man was given very fair warning of what would happen if he didn't comply; the result was in his hands.


People can die when getting tasered. If a man isn't listening to commands with thousands of volts going through him, he may be in cardic arrest. Not only that, muscles can seize up etc. It may have been that the taser didn't allow him to actually roll over on his stomach. Anyone who thinks thats text book is a fcking retard. Any one of those cops should have been on the ground with at least one of the guys wrist already cuffed.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2011, 04:11:09 PM »
Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on July 07, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
The problem is that "they want us to retaliate". Because when we do, that's the shit that's going to run on our government run media. And all the little scared shitless(you must follow the rules at all time arm chair quarterbacks) are going to want more of our freedoms taken away because the government media is going to use Fear to scare the shit out of them.

Man, you said it.  These guys really enjoy pushing buttons in these situations, and it always comes back to supporting (and of course increasing) the money-making industry known as crime.  I wish more good citizens would finally catch on to this huge scam.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2011, 04:11:13 PM »
Quote from: Psyckle on July 07, 2011, 03:50:30 PM
Bingo.  Can't stand ppl blaming cops for violence etc.  Its simple, shut the fuck up and listen to what the officer tells you.  Guaranteed you will come out a little more pleased with the result.  Hell, out of the 5 times I've ever been pulled over for speeding, running red light etc, I only received a ticket once.  I simply chose to comply, said I was sorry and didnt give the officer a hard time.  Problem is that most ppl have massive ego's, so how DARE someone with authority over them exercise it without hearing about it ::)
You make it sound like some people were born as officers. The almighty "officer". When I finished high school all the fuckups and assholes went to join the police. They are given authority by the system. Not because they are leaders. Why are you putting these yoyos on a pedestal?

I will agree you're better off being nice to a cop but really they had no need to kick him in the ribs, especially since he really posed no threat. That is pathetic on their part.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »
Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on July 07, 2011, 04:10:02 PM

People can die when getting tasered. If a man isn't listening to commands with thousands of volts going through him, he may be in cardic arrest. Not only that, muscles can seize up etc. It may have been that the taser didn't allow him to actually roll over on his stomach. Anyone who thinks thats text book is a fcking retard. Any one of those cops should have been on the ground with at least one of the guys wrist already cuffed.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2011, 04:26:58 PM »
Quote from: tommywishbone on July 07, 2011, 04:04:44 PM
Wow! Your keyboard reaches all the way under your bed.

It must be a terrible thing to live in fear.
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2011, 04:43:45 PM »
Quote from: quadzilla456 on July 07, 2011, 04:11:13 PM
You make it sound like some people were born as officers. The almighty "officer". When I finished high school all the fuckups and assholes went to join the police. They are given authority by the system. Not because they are leaders. Why are you putting these yoyos on a pedestal?

I will agree you're better off being nice to a cop but really they had no need to kick him in the ribs, especially since he really posed no threat. That is pathetic on their part.

I'm not putting them on a pedestal.  The reality is that these ppl have tons of power and can ruin your lives if they want.  Yes it may not be fair sometimes, but life isn't fair and ppl just need to accept that.  Sure the rules might be unfair, but they are still rules to follow.  If you decide to be a "rebel" and go against the flow, whatever happens is your own damn fault. 
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2011, 04:46:13 PM »
Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on July 07, 2011, 04:10:02 PM

People can die when getting tasered. If a man isn't listening to commands with thousands of volts going through him, he may be in cardic arrest. Not only that, muscles can seize up etc. It may have been that the taser didn't allow him to actually roll over on his stomach. Anyone who thinks thats text book is a fcking retard. Any one of those cops should have been on the ground with at least one of the guys wrist already cuffed.

LOL..please.

he can be heard blatantly defying the  officers command...

he deserved what he got
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2011, 04:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Chick on July 07, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
LOL..please.

he can be heard blatantly defying the  officers command...

he deserved what he got
you're a goof , end of story
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2011, 04:52:12 PM »
Quote from: Chick on July 07, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
LOL..please.

he can be heard blatantly defying the  officers command...

he deserved what he got
999 out of 1000 cops would have the brain to simply roll him over and cuff him no need to circle boot him, and your argument about him being high or something is more of a reason not to beat him up....also your argument about if he listened....well if they would have shot him would the same argument apply?... sorry chick I am usually on your side against these clowns that dis bodybuilding yet they live on bodybuilding forums all day long but this is irrational thinking
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2011, 04:52:45 PM »
184 deaths in 10 years from tasers

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f35_1180404904
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2011, 04:58:38 PM »
taser international order to pay millions in wrongful death lawsuit from a guy who was high on meth. Jury found Taser Int. to be only 15% responsible for the death. And aquitted the police. However had to pay 7million.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2008/06/10/20080610biz-taser0610.html
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2011, 05:00:37 PM »
sign the petition to outlaw the use of tasers for police

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ban-tasers-from-police/
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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2011, 05:02:29 PM »
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