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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2011, 02:34:37 PM »
chick ive never been arrested or seen the inside of a cell or police station...either but even i can see what the police did there was wrong.
they could have easily dogpiled him and cuffed him easily

you didnt answer my question btw

Yes, that's exactly what I would do...tell them to stop resisting, as any interference would only escalate the situation even further...now BOTH of you would be in the shit.

You think what you see is wrong..but you have no idea as to any of the hypotheticals I posted...or what led to this action...that's my entire point...which you STILL don't seem to get.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #126 on: July 08, 2011, 02:38:28 PM »
I've never had any family member in a situation like this...or even remotely close to it.  If any of them were...I would hope they wouldn't be stupid enough to not be able to follow a simple command, which could  escalate the situation into something completely avoidable....

I think most aren't smart enough to see the big picture here, which is that we don't know the circumstances which led to this altercation...tht there is back up on scene, and a reason the officers felt they needed to use force...which STILL could have been avoided had the idiot followed any one of the MULTIPLE commands given BEFORE force was used....
you re talking to society rejects, teens, guys in their 30 s who have no life other than internet, no families to take care of, no responsabilities and live in their mom's basements... or old geezers who ruined their marriages and families who re trying to find support from the first aformentionned...

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #127 on: July 08, 2011, 04:20:05 PM »
exactly my point...you're right, you dont crucify  him for spitting on the sidewalk...you crucify him for making a routine, simple procedure into one that was completely unnecessary.

same logic applies....

cop: excuse me sir...would you mind not spitting on the sidewalk?

Jerk off:  fuck you, Pig...you don't tell me what to do...I'll spit wherever and whenever I want...


Once again...a simple, No problem, Sir...would have sufficed...everyone moves on with their day

Rambo treated the cops with respect. All he wanted was a meal. And look how they treated him(sure its just a movie but not far from how some cops act) How many video's of bad cops do we all need to see to realize there's a problem.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #128 on: July 08, 2011, 04:22:15 PM »
Because police act as if they are in a constant warzone.  Not all members of the citizenry are packing heat waiting to shoot at an officer.  99% of the people police officers encounters are non-criminals.  In more and more precincts, police are being armed with military-style weaponry and equipment.  To many people, they appear to be a legitimized taxpayer paid gang rather than public servants.

Quick personal story:  I had applied to a local police agency where I was told during the official interview that they had more interest in a guy who had gotten an honorable discharge from the Army and had been serving in Iraq and Afghanistan the past 4 to 5 years.  I was floored.  I presumed(wrongly) that having a Bachelors in Criminal Justice, honorable discharge from the Navy, some LE work in the Coast Guard, and a former Corrections and Probation Officer would get me in a heartbeat.  I easily passed all the physical and written tests.  Instead, the agency wanted an Infantryman to pound the streets of a mostly upper middle class suburban neighborhood.  I appreciate what servicemen do for their country, but in my opinion, combat professionals have NO business in police work.


They don't want people smarter than them. They love people in the military because they can follow orders and follow a chain of command.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #129 on: July 08, 2011, 04:29:01 PM »
The problem usually lies with the Judges.  The city judge I deal with is SO pro-cop and pro=prosecutor that the cops get away with so much, from this type of behavior to violations of search/seizure.  Numerous defense attorneys have raised these issues in the court, but the judge just doesn't side with the defense.  And generally these petty criminals don't have to funds to sue a city over the brutality of the police force.  




THIS^^^

The court system is an utter and complete dog and pony show for the elite to rip off the have-nots or lock them in cages. Its fixed.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2011, 04:38:20 PM »

THIS^^^

The court system is an utter and complete dog and pony show for the elite to rip off the have-nots or lock them in cages. Its fixed.

The State Penitentiary is basically the 21st Century cotton field for the young black male.

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Re: This is police brutality, and probably not deserved
« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2011, 05:03:06 PM »
The State Penitentiary is basically the 21st Century cotton field for the young black male.

Here's a stat I posted elsewhere.

In the height of Stalin's reign in the Communist USSR, where he was sending people to the Gulags, there was 20 people per 100,000 incarcerated for NON-VIOLENT crime... Today, in the DEMOCRATIC USA, we incarcerate 19.7 people per 100,000 for NON-VIOLENT crimes.

Think about THAT.