Author Topic: Obama Admn: New gun control measures coming soon. (Bring it on you commie POFS) (Read 1596 times)

Soul Crusher · « **on:** July 07, 2011, 03:30:17 PM »

Six months after the shooting in Tucson that killed six people and wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., the Obama administration has yet to move on new gun control legislation.

That could change soon.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said a special task force has been "working through these complex issues, and we expect to have some more specific announcements in the near future."

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"The president directed the attorney general to form working groups with key stakeholders to identify common-sense measures that would improve American safety and security while fully respecting Second Amendment rights," Carney said.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/20...

Kazan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:33:16 PM »

Now that's funny, they are going to preach to the law abiding citizen about common sense? Where was this common sense when they thought operation fast and furious/gun runner was being proposed. They must think we are all mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us shit

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:34:21 PM »

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/07/obama-aide-gun-legislation-in-near-future/1?csp=34news

Bring it on Zero - Midterms in 2010 will be nothing compared to the destruction you and your communist traitor ilk face in 2012.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:35:07 PM »

240?

240?

240?

240?

Kazan · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:36:32 PM »

I'm sure he'll be along shortly to inform us that this is for our own good

tu_holmes · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:40:02 PM »

I'm putting this out here 100 percent.

If the White house makes any announcements about taking away my rights to own firearms... I absolutely PROMISE to vote for WHOEVER the Republican nomination is.

I don't give a goddam how stupid they may be.

Fury · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:41:53 PM »

240 said Obama would NEVER try to touch the 2nd amendment.

Fail #859789759 from Getbig's Nostradamus.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:46:43 PM »

When he first got elected, I didn't think he would either, however, recently I've changed my stance.

I think he is certainly trying to make a push for eroding 2nd amendment rights and of all of the rights we have, I find that one the most important to be honest.

If need be, you should always be able to take up arms against oppression and the 2nd amendment lets us do that.

If Obama really does try to mess with it, I will not help to re-elect him... guaranteed.

Fury · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2011, 04:36:18 PM »

Ever since the gunwalker shit started coming out I, like 333, hypothesized that this entire endeavor was conducted to go after the 2nd amendment and everything I've seen since then only makes it look more like that's the case.

The typical douche bags on CNN were throwing around the need for the AWB because of the "flow of weapons" last week....all while not mentioning Gunwalker a SINGLE time.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2011, 04:38:13 PM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on July 07, 2011, 04:36:18 PM

Ever since the gunwalker shit started coming out I, like 333, hypothesized that this entire endeavor was conducted to go after the 2nd amendment and everything I've seen since then only makes it look more like that's the case.

The typical douche bags on CNN were throwing around the need for the AWB because of the "flow of weapons" last week....all while not mentioning Gunwalker a SINGLE time.

It is disgusting.

We are in agreement... When I first heard about gunwalker, I too was worried... and the more things are revealed, the worse it looks.

I think it's grounds for treason.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2011, 04:40:24 PM »

Now its expanding to hondurus!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2011, 04:47:29 PM »

Yeah - where is vince - straw - blackass - benny - mal - 240 - etc to defend this crap?

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:01:50 PM »

show me the legislation.

this is nothing more than floating an idea to gauge public response.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:07:57 PM »

Normal dudes like Tu now see this guy for what he is....240 look at his record. He has never ever ever stood for 2nd Amendment rights. A special task force..... Hey douchebag constitutional scholar dude....we have the founding fathers, there's your fucking task force. They wrote this thing called the Constitution...now praise god and pass the 5.56.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:12:44 PM »

I'm reposting because 240 doesn't get facts. This is your Presidents' history on guns. Its a big quacking duck dude...forget it. If u want examples of unarmed populaces look at Nazi Germany...u want to attend Obama rallies with burning torches, drive a friggen matchbox electric car and work for a "fair" wage under his lordship be my guest. I'll be in the woods wrapped in my don't tread on me flag with the other gun nuts plotting his overthrow.

1) In 1996, then Illinois state Senator Obama answered a gun control questionnaire. He wrote that he supported a complete ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of handguns and “assault weapons,” and also supported mandatory waiting periods and background checks. During the 2008 campaign, candidate Obama denied ever filling out the questionnaire, despite the fact that it was completed in his handwriting. FactCheck.org confirmed that he had, in fact, filled out the questionnaire. [source A]

(2) In 1998, Mr. Obama expressed his support for a complete ban on the sale or transfer of all semi-automatic firearms. He supported increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms — this in Illinois, one of the only two states that to this day bans concealed carry. [source A]

(3) The 1998 Joyce Foundation annual report revealed that Mr. Obama was a member of its board of directors. The Joyce Foundation is one of the largest sources of funding for anti-gun groups and for anti-gun “research.” [source 7]

(4) In 1999, the Chicago Defender reported that Mr. Obama wanted to ban the resale of police issued firearms, even for the purpose of buying new equipment. [source 4]

(5) In 1999, Mr. Obama endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition. This was obviously intended to increase the price of gun ownership so drastically as to make it unaffordable for most Americans. [source 4]

(6) In 1999, Mr. Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within five miles of a school or park. This was a reasonable sounding scheme that would have had the effect of banning nearly every gun store in America. [source 8]

(7) In 1999, the Chicago Defender also reported that Mr. Obama favored mandatory firearm training for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for everyone under 21. [source 4]

( In 2000, Mr. Obama cosponsored a bill that limited firearm purchases to one per month. The bill failed. He also voted against allowing citizens to violate local weapon bans where self-defense was involved. [source A]

(9) In 2004, Mr. Obama voted for an Illinois Senate bill that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. While this might seem to be at odds with every political stance he had taken on the issue, it was later revealed that at the time he was fighting his Republican opponent for the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police. His support for the bill was almost certainly cynical political pandering rather than an indication of any appreciation for police officers or for the rights of gun owners. [source A]

(10) In a 2004 Illinois Senate debate with Alan Keyes, Mr. Obama said: “I think it is a scandal that this president [Bush] did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.” [source A]

(11) In 2005, Mr. Obama voted in the U.S. Senate to ban nearly all rifle ammunition in common civilian use. [source 3]

(12) Mr. Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He said he would not have voted for Scalia or Thomas and voted against the confirmation of Alito and Chief Justice Roberts. [source 1]

(13) Mr. Obama voted to allow lawsuits against firearm manufacturers for the acts of third parties beyond their knowledge or control. Such suits were designed to destroy the domestic firearms industry. [source 2]

(14) Mr. Obama has consistently opposed right to carry laws. [source 6]

(14) A 2007 report revealed that Mr. Obama supported a ban on standard capacity magazines. [source 9]

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-future-of-obamas-stealth-gun-control/2/

(15) A 2008 report revealed that Mr. Obama was in favor of mandatory micro-stamping, a scheme which would significantly increase the cost of new firearms while simultaneously establishing a massive registry. Despite uniform scientific evidence that the scheme does not and cannot work, efforts to impose it continue today. [source 10]

(16) In 2008, ABC News reported Mr. Obama’s support for gun bans in major cities including Chicago and Washington, D.C. [source 5]

(17) Mr. Obama’s 2008 campaign website indicated his support for the repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the ATF from being used in nuisance lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers. This too is a battle anti-gun forces continue to fight. [source 11]

Fury · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:27:49 PM »

240 = Obama c0cksucker. You'll have to forgive him as he gets a little tipsy taking four to five loads off the face every day.

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:49:59 PM »

HH,

what legislation has obama approved SINCE TAKING OFFICE to hinder our gun rights?

Cause he rep'd shitbag ILL and chicago, a bastion of anti-gun prickery.

i live in FL. What has he done to steal my gun rights since Jan 20, 2009? Anything?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2011, 05:59:39 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 07, 2011, 05:49:59 PM

HH,

what legislation has obama approved SINCE TAKING OFFICE to hinder our gun rights?

Cause he rep'd shitbag ILL and chicago, a bastion of anti-gun prickery.

i live in FL. What has he done to steal my gun rights since Jan 20, 2009? Anything?

So you will wait for him to do it?

Honestly dude... come on... You have to see that this is a design.

When the administration DOES finally start talking about reducing gun rights, will you admit that we were snowed (me included) finally?

Kazan · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2011, 06:03:05 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 07, 2011, 05:49:59 PM

HH,

what legislation has obama approved SINCE TAKING OFFICE to hinder our gun rights?

Cause he rep'd shitbag ILL and chicago, a bastion of anti-gun prickery.

i live in FL. What has he done to steal my gun rights since Jan 20, 2009? Anything?

Dude, wake the fuck up, when he was running for POTUS the chicago hand gun ban case was being heard in the SCOTUS. Obama would not take a position on it when asked. He is as anti-gun as they comes. Besides why would anyone in their right mind move from Hawaii to Illinois?

240 is Back · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2011, 06:03:23 PM »

lol so will i wait for him to do it?

yes, IF he signs gun control legislation into law, I will happily admit I was wrong.

So far, though, if you compare their FIRST TERMS - Bush allowed brady bill for 90% of his term, and Obama enacted any kind of AWB or BB for just about 75% of his already.

So yes, I see this as nothing more than testing the waters and giving the anti-gun pricks a reason to donate

Oh, you do know that obama is shaking the far-left dem trees this month, right? 2 mil in philly in one night? lol! The far left suckers are buying into it.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #20 on:** July 07, 2011, 06:36:53 PM »

Shame on you.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:04:48 PM »

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Obama to unveil new Gun Control Measures
thetruthaboutguns ^ | 7/7/11 | Farago
Posted on July 8, 2011 4:48:57 PM EDT by pabianice

“Half a year after the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), the Obama administration is set to release a series of reforms to the current gun law, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said on Thursday.” The Huffington Post may not be rubbing its hands in glee, but they’re not offering any analysis of this move, either. Here’s the short version: Barak Obama has lost his base. Or his mind. Or both . . .

Alienating pro-gun independents in a fruitless effort to end-run Congress on gun control (the edicts will supposedly take the form of executive orders) may please the far left, but it’s nearasdammit political suicide. Wait. Hear that? Cha-ching! That’s the sound of the NRA cash register struggling to process tens of millions of dollars in contributions as its members hit the hustings.

Here’s the official WH announcement:

“The president directed the Attorney General to form working groups with key stakeholders to identify common sense measures that would improve American safety and security while fully respecting Second Amendment rights,” Carney said at Thursday’s briefing. “That process is well underway at the Department of Justice with stakeholders on all sides working through these complex issues and we expect to have more specific announcements in the near future.”

The Department of Justice? Carney’s kidding, right? The same federal agency that stands accused of conducting a major and ongoing cover-up of a gun-related program gone horribly wrong (the ATF’s literally fatal Gunwalker misegos) is going to draft regulations to control firearms sales? That’s insane.

As for “all stakeholders” having their say on these new regs, wrong. The gun rights side of the “debate” didn’t get a look in. The NRA boycotted the White House “gun summit” and Obama officials never responded to TTAG’s request for a seat at the table. (Can you believe it?)

The HuffPo reckons All the President’s Men will nibble The HuffPo reckons All the President’s Men will nibble away at existing laws rather than jump off the cliff marked “renew the assault weapons ban.”

The end result, one source close to the discussions said, was a package of reforms “not huge in scope.” They are largely expected to mirror the topics covered in the president’s op-ed. Gun control advocates have pushed for more, including legislation that would limit the size of magazines — such as the 32-round clip that Giffords’ shooter used — or a bill that would force private sellers to conduct background checks at gun shows — which may have prevented the Virginia Tech shooter from obtaining his firearms.

Maybe. Actually not. Mr. Cho bought his firearms at a gun dealer. (I guess the HuffPo’s Internet connection was down at the time of writing.)

All this—what this is—will occur “in the near future.” In other words, probably not at all. Any attempt to limit magazine capacity with a federal fiat will enrage, alienate and energize the President’s generally sleepy pro-gun followers. And not in a good way.

If this is a trial balloon, it’s holier than Benedetto XVI.

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1 posted on July 8, 2011 4:48:58 PM EDT by pabianice
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The “gun show loophole” fix is pure registration. It is nothing less than the requirement that every gun transfer be conducted through a dealer.

Get it throught the house Obamao,, i wanna see you try.

2 posted on July 8, 2011 4:54:34 PM EDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: pabianice
Here’s the short version: Barak Obama has lost his base. Or his mind. Or both . . .
Hussein never had much of a mind to loose in the first place. His filthy socialist left will never leave him. They will bitch a lot but vote for him.

3 posted on July 8, 2011 4:55:55 PM EDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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“Here’s the short version: Barak Obama has lost his base. Or his mind. Or both . . . “

You can’t lose what you don’t have.

4 posted on July 8, 2011 4:58:29 PM EDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: DesertRhino
He is already trying to make all interstate transactions FFL to FFL by having the ATF lean heavily on dealers to not accept guns from non-FF holders. It is pure intimidation by the BATF

5 posted on July 8, 2011 5:00:02 PM EDT by BobinIL
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Get it throught the house Obamao,, i wanna see you try.
der 0berFuhrer Hussein 0bama will merely issue a decree and along with his legion of corrupt judges, Holder and the criminals at ATF, it will be enforced as law. He don't need no stinkin' House of Representatives.

6 posted on July 8, 2011 5:03:53 PM EDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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They are all collectively thinking "What the hell is he saying?"

7 posted on July 8, 2011 5:06:57 PM EDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: pabianice
Obama to unveil new Gun Control Measures
I agree. Something has to be done about the Oboma administration shipping arms to the worlds criminal drug dealers.

Oh wait. He's taking about taking rights away from us average American citizens again, isn't he? He's only going to allow criminal foreign drug dealers to be publicly funded and armed, right?

I feel safer already - NOT !!!!

8 posted on July 8, 2011 5:09:37 PM EDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Exactly. That’s the country we’re living in right now. No such thing as the Constitution, law enforcement, separation of powers, or checks and balances. Money by fiat. Rule by fiat. That’s where we’re at.

9 posted on July 8, 2011 5:10:05 PM EDT by butterdezillion
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To: pabianice
...Obama administration is set to release a series of reforms to the current gun law....
And he gets this legislative power how, exactly? He just appropriates it?

I can´t believe the slew of cowards we elected to the House. Elections matter, eh? Like hell.

10 posted on July 8, 2011 5:11:32 PM EDT by onedoug (If)
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To: pabianice
measures that would improve American safety and security while fully respecting Second Amendment rights,
Like the ATF not forcing dealers to sell guns to people they suspect are criminals? That would be a step in the right direction.

11 posted on July 8, 2011 5:11:46 PM EDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: butterdezillion
In other words, we are closer to a revolution then a few years ago.

12 posted on July 8, 2011 5:12:50 PM EDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Here’s another story on this:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-expected-boost-gun-safety-executiv

13 posted on July 8, 2011 5:14:17 PM EDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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But since now the “fast and furious” scandal has broken out, this will blow things up to sky high.

14 posted on July 8, 2011 5:14:21 PM EDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: onedoug
Obama administration is set to release a series of reforms to the current gun law....
The "president" (or current commie dictator) can't write law. Congress has to write the laws.

15 posted on July 8, 2011 5:15:11 PM EDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Forgetting the 2nd Amendment for just a moment, under what authority can the President unilaterally ban magazines over a certain capacity? Doesn't there have to be, you know, an actual BILL passed by Congress that he then signs before this (abomination) becomes law of the land?
Now, of course, I don't propose to forget the rights protected by the 2nd Amendment - such bans are outright restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms. Such an Executive Order or regulations would wind up in court very quickly, and there'd be a Temporary Restraining Order slapped on to prevent enforcement until the courts could get a look.

Oh, and let's say that all of this passes muster - how is this enforced? We all know the answer...someone goes to jail. Now, who would that be? Mainly middle class and upper middle class people, the backbone of the economy. Go to jail on what is likely to be a federal felony charge, and you can NEVER hold a federal job, work as a federal contractor, get a security clearance or a bond, etc. - i.e. your future economic prospects are significantly dampened. This is, in addition to being an outright assault (pun intended) on our rights, but also an attack on the economic prospects of those likely to oppose Obama and the Dems (oh, and let's not forget that you'd lose your right to vote in most states).

FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO. FUBO.

16 posted on July 8, 2011 5:20:25 PM EDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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Sounds like a personal problem to me.
I am actually pretty satisfied with my representative, Blackburn.

Or as Tonto said when he and the Lone Ranger were surrounded by Indians, “What do you mean WE white man?”

17 posted on July 8, 2011 5:20:41 PM EDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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“Gun control advocates have pushed for more, including legislation that would limit the size of magazines — such as the 32-round clip that Giffords’ shooter used—”

keep wondering if Giffords’ shooter’s gun was one of the ones that ‘walked’

18 posted on July 8, 2011 5:24:47 PM EDT by famousdayandyear
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And what exactly is Blackburn doing to light a fire under the rest of the bums?

19 posted on July 8, 2011 5:24:56 PM EDT by onedoug (If)
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It was a 33 round magazine, not a clip and not 32 rounds, but who’s counting?

Glad I bought some before they get outlawed.

20 posted on July 8, 2011 5:27:26 PM EDT by Clint N. Suhks (Liz Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
This regime is already operating outside the boundaries set by the Constitution and the rule of law. From their point of view: why stop now?

We’ve already said “NO!” to 0bamacare - the monsters final solution for the young and the old.

We’ve already said “NO!” to bailouts, tax increases and the further confiscatio nof what belongs to us.

We’re at the point where the only “NO!” they’ll understand will be the one coming at them at muzzle velocity.

21 posted on July 8, 2011 5:30:33 PM EDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

22 posted on July 8, 2011 5:33:44 PM EDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Time to get that shitty former NFL football washout Ray Schoenke off the floor of whatever bar he's currently sleeping in and parade him and his phony 'American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA)' around like the Obama campaign did in 2008 to fool gun owners into thinking Obama wasn't going to take their guns and bibles away.
"Hi! I'm former Washington Redskin Ray Schoenke, and if you're an outdoorsman like me, I want to talk with you a moment about Barack Obama!"

Nobody but a handful of ex-BATFE agents were executives in that phony organization, and there was never any membership numbers produced.

It wasn't even a few months after the 2008 elections ended that the 'AHSA' website went offline permanently and the domain name 'www.huntersandshooters.o rg' is now being parked at one of those fly-by-night website hosting services that buys up old expired Internet top-level DNS names.

See for yourself:

http://www.huntersandshooters.org/

23 posted on July 8, 2011 5:36:18 PM EDT by The KG9 Kid
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GREAT pic!!!! VERY appropriate. I’m a major LOTR fan.

24 posted on July 8, 2011 5:43:09 PM EDT by Wonder Warthog
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I bet he’s thinking he can bypass Congress. Again.

25 posted on July 8, 2011 5:46:13 PM EDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: DesertRhino
Exactamundo! As I posted on another thread on this suject:
Let’s Translate the Bovine excrement and gains some insights on what the National Socialist Democrats have in store for US:
Quoting Obama: “

Most gun owners know that the word ‘commonsense’ isn't a code word for ‘confiscation,”
Translation: This is just a step toward my ultimate goal of confiscation, but I’m trying to sucker punch your sense of logic with a falsehood that is 180 degrees out of phase with my true intentions.

Quoting the National Socialists some more:

If it does, perhaps a look at the president's op-ed issued the day before Carney's remarks will offer insight as to what kind. “The National Instant Criminal Background Check System is the filter that's supposed to stop the wrong people from getting their hands on a gun. Bipartisan legislation four years ago was supposed to strengthen this system, but it hasn't been properly implemented,” he noted.
[Isn’t it nice of them to telegraph their true intentions? But how do they define ‘stop the wrong people’?]

Translation: We can’t implement our ultimate goal of grabbing your guns without a couple of intermediate steps, namely having Feral Government oversight on every gun transfer. Therefore we’re going to pretend to protect your rights while we incrementally take them away.

Having governmental control of how you buy and sell private property will get you used to the idea of getting our permission in owning a gun and it will facilitate grabbing them later on after we rescind that permission (Registration).

26 posted on July 8, 2011 6:01:52 PM EDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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The parallels are becoming uncanny. As previosuly posted, 2012 is coming down to will the GOP candidate have the courage and fortitude to cast the "One Ring" into the fire of the Constitution, or be seduced by it's power yet again?
Or will We the People be required to march on and destroy Mordor-on-the-Potomac?

27 posted on July 8, 2011 6:02:30 PM EDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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28 posted on July 8, 2011 6:07:18 PM EDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: pabianice
BTW USA today has similar article (Curious they're all coming out right now..)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-07-08-obama-gun-control-safety-giffords_n.htm

Note the passage:

Whatever is proposed is not expected to involve legislation or take on major issues like banning assault weapons but could include executive action to strengthen the background check system or other steps.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:06:13 PM »

Oh no 240 barry's the greatest ever!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2011, 07:07:02 PM »

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Obama expected to take 'executive action' on 'gun safety'
GOPUSA.com ^ | July 8, 2011 | Erica Werne
Posted on July 8, 2011 8:20:10 PM EDT by Iam1ru1-2

WASHINGTON (AP) - Six months after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot, the White House is preparing to propose some new steps on gun safety, though they're likely to fall short of the bold measures activists would like to see.

Spokesman Jay Carney said that the new steps would be made public "in the near future." He didn't offer details, but people involved in talks at the Justice Department to craft the new measures said they expected to see something in the next several weeks. Whatever is proposed is not expected to involve legislation or take on major issues, like banning assault weapons, but could include executive action to strengthen the background check system or other steps.

"The president directed the attorney general to form working groups with key stakeholders to identify common-sense measures that would improve American safety and security while fully respecting Second Amendment rights," Carney said Thursday. "That process is well under way at the Department of Justice, with stakeholders on all sides working through these complex issues, and we expect to have some more specific announcements in the near future."

Anti-gun groups have been disappointed to see no action so far from President Barack Obama, who supported tough gun control measures earlier in his career but fell largely silent upon becoming president. Some activists were using the opportunity of the six-month anniversary of the Giffords shooting on Friday to speak up.

The shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz., killed six people and wounded more than a dozen others, including Giffords. Two months later, Obama wrote an opinion piece in Giffords' local paper, the Arizona Daily Star, calling for "sound and effective steps" to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, including strengthening background checks. So far the president has done nothing and administration officials have signaled that no major steps should be expected, given the climate in Congress against gun legislation of any kind.

That's not stopping activists from pushing Obama. The group Mayors Against Illegal Guns, headed by Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, sent Obama a letter calling him to act.

"To prevent the next Tucson, we need a comprehensive background check system, which is what the president called for in April," said the director of the mayors' group, Mark Glaze. "That said, there are many steps the president can take on his own authority, without new laws, that could make a very real difference."

The group's suggestions included enforcing reporting laws that could have stopped the Tucson shooter from getting a weapon.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2011, 09:04:29 AM »

Government
Obama Executive Orders Impose New Gun Rules
Posted on July 12, 2011 at 6:51am by Buck Sexton

The Blaze reported on the low-key plans of the Obama administration to increase the penalties for certain gun law violations, and add steps to the background checks for legal gun ownership.

Today the administration’s plans are beginning to come into effect. Through an Executive Order, the Obama administration is implementing new restrictions on the sale of certain weapons in border states, and increasing the penalties for violating certain firearms laws.

Fox News is reporting on the purpose of the gun control executive orders:

“In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles.

Under the new policy, federal firearms licensees in Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico must report purchases of two or more of some types of rifles by the same person in a five-day span. The requirement applies to purchases of semi-automatic rifles that have detachable magazines and a caliber of greater than .22.

ATF estimates it will generate 18,000 reports a year. ATF will retain the information and if no investigative leads have been realized after two years, it will be purged.”

The Daily Beast seems to have the inside track on more Executive Orders, however, claiming recent conversations with administration officials. TDB says the upcoming Executive Orders will have more impact than what Fox outlines above, including:

“A national electronic system designed to make background checks for handgun buyers simpler and faster, leaving an electronic paper trail. [And] Tougher sentencing guidelines for straw buyers that Holder’s department pushed through procedural hoops at the U.S. Sentencing Commission earlier this year.”

The Executive Orders come in the middle of the “Fast and Furious” scandal currently plaguing the administration. Already, there is talk on Capitol Hill of a cover-up at the highest levels of government, and it appears to some that the administration was feeding the lethal problem of firearms trafficking it ostensibly intended to address with “Fast and Furious.”

The question remains- if these Executive Orders are ‘common sense’ measures as the administration claims, why not let Congress enact them as laws? And if they are minor tweaks to existing law as others claim, are they necessary at all?

As background, here is a short clip of then-candidate Obama in 2008 on gun control. He agrees that the second amendment means…something, but beyond that, the details get hazy.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-executive-orders-impose-new-gun-rules