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The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« on: July 08, 2011, 03:54:11 PM »
The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
Posted: 7/8/11 06:05 PM ET

The GOP is the party of business and financial investments. This prowess might just translate into deciding to forego a risky investment, the 2012 presidential election. The fractured Republican field, together with Obama's fundraising freight train, may lead Republican donors to simply raise the white flag and wait it out till 2016.

The Republican money pie is getting sliced too thin. The lack of one, two or even three GOP consensus candidates will prevent the party from establishing a united front. Going up against a cash-rich Democratic candidate who excels at the campaign game requires bundled resources early on. The recent fundraising numbers for all Republican candidates are anemic. Altogether, the Republican candidates raised less than the projected $60 million that the President raised this quarter.

There is a power vacuum in the GOP field. There are a number of candidates with different distinguishable characteristics, but no superstar. Mitt Romney is the closest thing to a front-runner, but this is because of his name recognition and organizational head start. Romney may be in the lead, but in a Tea-Party-strong GOP, his more conservative counterparts will close the lead.

In primary elections candidates (Republicans and Democrats) run to the extremes to court the base. With the momentum of the Tea Party, the Republican candidate will be more extreme than in previous elections. General elections are won by capturing Independent voters. Base Republicans and Democrats will turn out for their respective teams. The real thrill and skill of winning an election is in wooing fence-sitters and partisan-leaners.

The Tea Party may be phenomenal at rallying the base, but they will not win crossover voters. On the flip side, Democrats will be able to capitalize on the nomination of a far-right candidate to mobilize the Democratic base. Whether with Perry, Bachmann, Cain, etc., Republican donors will refrain from pouring money into campaigns that may make it out of the primary but will sputter in the general.

Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are the strongest candidates in a match-up with President Obama in the general election. However, neither will be able to make it out of the primary election. Romney is dogged by his health care past, and Huntsman is too socially liberal. Republican donors know this, and they will hesitate to throw away their money.

The second-quarter fundraising figures for the Republican field underscore Republican donor hesitancy. Among the conservative Republican cohort, there was no monetary show of enthusiasm. Even Romney's first place among fellow GOP contenders is disheartening rather than inspirational; he's number one, and this is what he can come up with? The expansion of the Republican presidential field with a potential Rick Perry and/or Sarah Palin candidacy will only further divide the money pie and strengthen President Obama's campaign.

Republicans may just cut their losses and raise the white flag. Their strongest candidates will not make it out of the primary. The candidate who does make it out will be too extreme and position the party for an embarrassing loss in the general. The idea of developing the Republican farm team and focusing on Congressional and local races may not look so bad as the 2012 election nears.
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 03:57:28 PM »
Odd u don't post this bs on the politics board where it belongs....knowing full well you'll be forced to scurry away  without defending this drivel. Barry is doomed......
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 04:07:17 PM »
The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
Posted: 7/8/11 06:05 PM ET

The GOP is the party of business and financial investments. This prowess might just translate into deciding to forego a risky investment, the 2012 presidential election. The fractured Republican field, together with Obama's fundraising freight train, may lead Republican donors to simply raise the white flag and wait it out till 2016.

The Republican money pie is getting sliced too thin. The lack of one, two or even three GOP consensus candidates will prevent the party from establishing a united front. Going up against a cash-rich Democratic candidate who excels at the campaign game requires bundled resources early on. The recent fundraising numbers for all Republican candidates are anemic. Altogether, the Republican candidates raised less than the projected $60 million that the President raised this quarter.

There is a power vacuum in the GOP field. There are a number of candidates with different distinguishable characteristics, but no superstar. Mitt Romney is the closest thing to a front-runner, but this is because of his name recognition and organizational head start. Romney may be in the lead, but in a Tea-Party-strong GOP, his more conservative counterparts will close the lead.

In primary elections candidates (Republicans and Democrats) run to the extremes to court the base. With the momentum of the Tea Party, the Republican candidate will be more extreme than in previous elections. General elections are won by capturing Independent voters. Base Republicans and Democrats will turn out for their respective teams. The real thrill and skill of winning an election is in wooing fence-sitters and partisan-leaners.

The Tea Party may be phenomenal at rallying the base, but they will not win crossover voters. On the flip side, Democrats will be able to capitalize on the nomination of a far-right candidate to mobilize the Democratic base. Whether with Perry, Bachmann, Cain, etc., Republican donors will refrain from pouring money into campaigns that may make it out of the primary but will sputter in the general.

Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are the strongest candidates in a match-up with President Obama in the general election. However, neither will be able to make it out of the primary election. Romney is dogged by his health care past, and Huntsman is too socially liberal. Republican donors know this, and they will hesitate to throw away their money.

The second-quarter fundraising figures for the Republican field underscore Republican donor hesitancy. Among the conservative Republican cohort, there was no monetary show of enthusiasm. Even Romney's first place among fellow GOP contenders is disheartening rather than inspirational; he's number one, and this is what he can come up with? The expansion of the Republican presidential field with a potential Rick Perry and/or Sarah Palin candidacy will only further divide the money pie and strengthen President Obama's campaign.

Republicans may just cut their losses and raise the white flag. Their strongest candidates will not make it out of the primary. The candidate who does make it out will be too extreme and position the party for an embarrassing loss in the general. The idea of developing the Republican farm team and focusing on Congressional and local races may not look so bad as the 2012 election nears.

Hey Benny, how did those jobs numbers come out today? LOL. Another failed Benny thread. hahaha.

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 04:09:12 PM »
Barry is doomed......

How?

The GOP refuse to give America a candidate.

We're all doomed.

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 04:12:52 PM »
It does not matter who the Republican candidate ends up being....

The Democrats will be crushed in 2012 by a landslide that we will never again see in our lifetime.

It will make Reagan/Mondale pale in comparison.


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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 04:13:16 PM »
How?

The GOP refuse to give America a candidate.

We're all doomed.

No president in history has ever been re-elected with UE this high being this close to an election (meaning the third year of a presidency) at this point I doubt if he knows what 2+2 equals.

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 04:25:08 PM »
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 04:25:20 PM »
It does not matter who the Republican candidate ends up being....

The Democrats will be crushed in 2012 by a landslide that we will never again see in our lifetime.

It will make Reagan/Mondale pale in comparison.

I suspect you're grossly underestimating DNC dominance in the states which matter most.  Even if the GOP nominee wins Florida, NC, and VA, that still isn't enough to put him/her over the top.  The GOP isn't winning PA or OH or any other state in the upper midwest.    

That'll make for a closer election, true, but until the GOP gets off its collective lazy ass and brings forth a world-beater rather than this cast of fringe rustlers it keeps trotting out there, it will be next-to-impossible to unseat the incumbent.  

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 07:15:21 PM »
No president in history has ever been re-elected with UE this high being this close to an election (meaning the third year of a presidency) at this point I doubt if he knows what 2+2 equals.
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 07:17:45 PM »
F.D.R.

kill yourself, dingle-berry
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 07:20:16 PM »
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Yes, real "effete."  ::)
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 07:44:02 PM »
Yes, real "effete."  ::)
Obama's Afghanistan Troop Levels are 5X Bush's





He got lucky. I bet you any money he was a coward in the whole process. He had to think it over for a week before he made a decision. He's a gutless chump. I give Bush and the cia intergators most of the credit.

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 07:45:10 PM »
The Funky President would be defeated if the election were today, according to 3 seperate polls.
Presidential polls SIXTEEN MONTHS OUT are always highly accurate.  ::)
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 07:46:33 PM »
Odd u don't post this bs on the politics board where it belongs....knowing full well you'll be forced to scurry away  without defending this drivel. Barry is doomed......

Benny knows that on the pol board we will eat him alive w this crap. 

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 07:51:46 PM »
The Funky President would be defeated if the election were today, according to 3 seperate polls.

Defeated by whom? 

I can't tell you to an absolute certainty that, right now, there is no current GOP candidate capable of taking down the dems.  You've got to look at the way the GOP leadership - or lack thereof - has behaved these last 4+ years.  They're completely out-of-touch, didn't even TRY to win the White House in 2008 (not a bad move, given how bad the economy was about to collapse), and have not devoted any time to developing an electable candidate in the new America.
 

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 07:54:01 PM »
Defeated by whom? 

I can't tell you to an absolute certainty that, right now, there is no current GOP candidate capable of taking down the dems.  You've got to look at the way the GOP leadership - or lack thereof - has behaved these last 4+ years.  They're completely out-of-touch, didn't even TRY to win the White House in 2008 (not a bad move, given how bad the economy was about to collapse), and have not devoted any time to developing an electable candidate in the new America.
 

Bernie madoff would beat Obama at this point. 

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 08:00:55 PM »
He got lucky. I bet you any money he was a coward in the whole process. He had to think it over for a week before he made a decision. He's a gutless chump. I give Bush and the cia intergators most of the credit.
It's like when fighters get knocked out by a "lucky punch." LOL Yep, bin Laden was unlucky in having those Seal Team Six operatives SENT BY OBAMA shoot him in the head. Yes, what "luck."  ::)
Clearly Obama's thinking it over caused him to make the right decision, did it not? Yeah, let's criticize the president for "thinking"...you know, being all "contemplative" before he launches the most important military strike of his president. Not like that shoot-from-the-hip bad ass in GWB. 

A gutless chump...lol Ok, "makaveli25."  ::) You're an idiot still reading from the repube playbook that clearly does not apply to THIS dem president with balls of steel, that is far more aggressive...in far smarter ways, than your Moron-In-Chief George W. Bush.


Let's go down memory lane...WITH THIS CLIP:  ;D

A 9/11 Reminder from a 2004 BuzzFlash Editorial: "Minutes of Silence That Should Live in Infamy: As Americans Leapt to Their Deaths from the Twin Towers, George W. Bush Sat Cluelessly in a Florida Classroom, Endangering the Lives of the Children Around Him, Until His Handlers Could Figure Out What to Do With Him." (Includes Booker Elementary School "Pet Goat" Video.)

 

Or how about...THIS!:  ::)
Remember, this is just SIX MONTHS after 9/11. In response to a reporters question, President Bush tells the world that he is "truly not that concerned" with catching the man who murdered 3,000 Americans just six months and two days earlier because "we've marginalized him."

Please note that he ALMOST says "I don't know where he is, nor do I... (really care)." but catches himself in mid-sentence.

"He hides in caves while sending young people off to die."





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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 08:04:02 PM »
Bernie madoff would beat Obama at this point. 
Only he's not running.  ::)

 We know that your Obama derangement syndrome has led you to state that you'd vote for a CHILD MURDERER over Obama (wow do you need psychological help!), but we all know PEA BRAIN that in the end you'll be voting for the same PHONY you voted for in 2008...Mitt Romney.  ;)
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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 08:12:34 PM »
Anybody who thinks that Obammy is going to carry ANY state in 2012 is delusional. Even with the bullshit Dem amesty program to garner more welfare votes the Dems are getting run out of town on a rail.

Then I'd arrest the Obama Administration and their Liberal lamestream media lackeys and try all of them for treason.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 08:14:51 PM »
Only he's not running.  ::)

 We know that your Obama derangement syndrome has led you to state that you'd vote for a CHILD MURDERER over Obama (wow do you need psychological help!), but we all know PEA BRAIN that in the end you'll be voting for the same PHONY you voted for in 2008...Mitt Romney.  ;)

I would vote for the btk killer or Charles Manson over Obama. 

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 08:30:41 PM »
I would vote for the btk killer or Charles Manson over Obama. 
That's right, and that is why we call you PEA BRAIN. You are a lying, crazed, pathological racist that would be willing to swear in a convicted serial killer into the Oval Office as long as it means you don't have to see that guy in the White House anymore.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 08:33:03 PM »
That's right, and that is why we call you PEA BRAIN. You are a lying, crazed, pathological racist that would be willing to swear in a convicted serial killer into the Oval Office as long as it means you don't have to see that guy in the White House anymore.

I would vote for condo rice, Alan west, Cain,Powell, bolden, sowell, walt Williams, Thomas , over Obama any day. 
 

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Re: The GOP 2012 White Flag Strategy
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 09:07:09 PM »
Apparently Dems think the color of Obama's skin acts as a cloaking device for his incompetence. Never thought I'd see the day where someone could be so clueless they make Janet Napolitano seem competent.

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