GH15 Slanders Alot Of People

[Big Worm]

Guest posings/appearances, contest winnings, video/photo sales, and most of all not blowing that money during his hayday and instead investing it and getting some great returns.

That would not ,make him rich.. Unless he has multiple endorsements.. No way can he save more than he spends while cycling year round,also when prepping for contests(more expensive).. Plus everyday necessities.. Food,rent/Mortgage,lights,gas and car payments.. Investments......? Yes.. Absolutely,but he'd have to have multiple investments,and sell them at one time to accumulate millions.. Unless they're huge investments.. Not many people can invest and make millions,it takes millions ,to make millions,maybe a few hundred thousand,but not much more than that.. Again,he'd have to have multiple investments,for that to happen..

[disco_stu]

He's a nobody. The guy doesn't know a damn thing about lifting weights.

totally agree. gh15 is a failed or ex pro, bitter and all twisted due to the G4P he chose to do to get his GH hands on drugs. He groupied with a load of other drug sponges and listened to the made up theories and watched the anecdotal evidence.

he seriously rejects knowledge about weight training and how to gain mass naturally and replaces it with drugs- because thats all he knows. i am certain he failed as a natural and even as a drug user his genetics were pretty average.

thats why i too think its nasser. the guy was a bag of bodyparts and only looked decent when he was drugged to the eyeballs- after years of drug abuse and G4P - where the mismatch of bodyparts didnt matter anymore.

the guy never won a contest on aesthetics..and ive no doubt never weight trained without drugs- probably doesnt even know anyone who doesnt do drugs.

[bigbobs]

That would not ,make him rich.. Unless he has multiple endorsements.. No way can he save more than he spends while cycling year round,also when prepping for contests(more expensive).. Plus everyday necessities.. Food,rent/Mortgage,lights,gas and car payments.. Investments......? Yes.. Absolutely,but he'd have to have multiple investments,and sell them at one time to accumulate millions.. Unless they're huge investments.. Not many people can invest and make millions,it takes millions ,to make millions,maybe a few hundred thousand,but not much more than that.. Again,he'd have to have multiple investments,for that to happen..

It was Kenny187 who stalked and posted a pic of a house which Nasser bought circa 1998 and sold in 2005 - I don't remember the exact #'s but he did make over a million in appreciation on this house alone



+ he owned/owns several other properties too.

Also true there is not much money in bodybuilding but if you are a top tier pro you can make in the low hundreds of thousands a year from bb alone.  If you're not one of the top 10-15 then its definitely a different story though.

Or of course one can believe the sarcastic pics he posts to get a rise out of others working a restaurants, gas stations, hardware stores, etc.

[Palpatine Q]

Well, I'm not an inbred Gypsy, scumbag.

you are fecal matter that achieved self awareness

[apply85]

haha

[Big Worm]

It was Kenny187 who stalked and posted a pic of a house which Nasser bought circa 1998 and sold in 2005 - I don't remember the exact #'s but he did make over a million in appreciation on this house alone



+ he owned/owns several other properties too.

Also true there is not much money in bodybuilding but if you are a top tier pro you can make in the low hundreds of thousands a year from bb alone.  If you're not one of the top 10-15 then its definitely a different story though.

Or of course one can believe the sarcastic pics he posts to get a rise out of others working a restaurants, gas stations, hardware stores, etc.

Okay Brotha.. I guess we'd put that under the large investments,no?  LOL..

[luvvsuNOT]

totally agree. gh15 is a failed or ex pro, bitter and all twisted due to the G4P he chose to do to get his GH hands on drugs. He groupied with a load of other drug sponges and listened to the made up theories and watched the anecdotal evidence.

he seriously rejects knowledge about weight training and how to gain mass naturally and replaces it with drugs- because thats all he knows. i am certain he failed as a natural and even as a drug user his genetics were pretty average.

thats why i too think its nasser. the guy was a bag of bodyparts and only looked decent when he was drugged to the eyeballs- after years of drug abuse and G4P - where the mismatch of bodyparts didnt matter anymore.

the guy never won a contest on aesthetics..and ive no doubt never weight trained without drugs- probably doesnt even know anyone who doesnt do drugs.

Since you have all this knowledge on how to gain mass naturally please show us the results you have achived. Give us something to aspire to.

[luvvsuNOT]

Well, I'm not an inbred Gypsy, scumbag.

You start a thread whining about gh15. He hurts your feelings. Then you say he's a nobody until he post a pic. Why don't you prctice what you preach and post a pic "Bodybuilder" Lex Reeves.

[Howard]

most fellas do take steroids to look 205 10% ,,the growth come with hgh and insulina,, this is what push them into the singles and higher in lean muscle ....205 10% is nothing to be ashamed of ,,ofcourse it needs to look good but its nothing to be ashamed of!

gh15 approved

GH15, you are capable of posting some really useful interesting posts on bodybuilding stuff:
1. You have made excellent posts on effective training for muscle stimulation ( not needing barbell benches for chest growth)
2. Give some interesting insights on actual drug cycles hardcore bodybuilders use.

Your recent natty limit of 205 and 10% is pretty reasonable for a hard training avg 6 ft man, no question.
My only issue is you seem to promote the idea that this is the absolute limit for EVERY drug free guy.
To me, this is like putting EVERY juiced bodybuilder in with the top guys in the Olympia.
To me it is reasonable to think the very top, gifted 0.0001% of all drug free bodybuilder would be a FREAK compared to the vast majority.

[Max B]

lex reeves is a gimmick its not that hard to realize, jesus

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

The angrier I make the shitstain 'groink', the happier I get. Now he brags about losing 20 lbs, but only because he does drugs. I would love to see him get arrested or maybe lose a kidney. All to impress the redbox crowd.

[Palpatine Q]

The angrier I make the shitstain 'groink', the happier I get. Now he brags about losing 20 lbs, but only because he does drugs. I would love to see him get arrested or maybe lose a kidney. All to impress the redbox crowd.

LOL....angry....i pity you. 

reduced to playing make believe people on a message board.....impressive 

[cephissus]

GH15, you are capable of posting some really useful interesting posts on bodybuilding stuff:
1. You have made excellent posts on effective training for muscle stimulation ( not needing barbell benches for chest growth)
2. Give some interesting insights on actual drug cycles hardcore bodybuilders use.

Your recent natty limit of 205 and 10% is pretty reasonable for a hard training avg 6 ft man, no question.
My only issue is you seem to promote the idea that this is the absolute limit for EVERY drug free guy.
To me, this is like putting EVERY juiced bodybuilder in with the top guys in the Olympia.
To me it is reasonable to think the very top, gifted 0.0001% of all drug free bodybuilder would be a FREAK compared to the vast majority.

wow howard good post.

either way, i think gh15's harsh natural limitations are doing the world a lot of good... maybe a few "true freaks" will get slandered in the process, but the majority of kids still think people like kiyoshi moody are natural, and this has to end.  these guys hide under the "genetic elite" mask, along with many others, and are allowed to do so because no one likes to hear about natural limits.

[BILL ANVIL]

most fellas do take steroids to look 205 10% ,,the growth come with hgh and insulina,, this is what push them into the singles and higher in lean muscle ....205 10% is nothing to be ashamed of ,,ofcourse it needs to look good but its nothing to be ashamed of!

gh15 approved

Thats mostly 205-210 5'8" of upper body with so so legs and no calves with an extremely puny frame and puny joints, and NOT all drugs and NOT a bodybuilder. Just always lifted heavy went for strength and always liked training as a hobby and built a fair amount of real solid muscle over 12 years. I can maintain 197 with just running creatine and training 4X per week eating 3X a day, but thats it. I look 215-220 after a back or chest workout, but then look 197 without a pump. Thats whats brutal about training without drugs, I only feel great 4X a week after training instead of everyday if I was juiced 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Thats mostly 205-210 5'8" of upper body with so so legs and no calves with an extremely puny frame and puny joints, and NOT all drugs and NOT a bodybuilder. Just always lifted heavy went for strength and always liked training as a hobby and built a fair amount of real solid muscle over 12 years. I can maintain 197 with just running creatine and training 4X per week eating 3X a day, but thats it. I look 215-220 after a back or chest workout, but then look 197 without a pump. Thats whats brutal about training without drugs, I only feel great 4X a week after training instead of everyday if I was juiced  

Creatine is a waste bro. It will fuck your kidney's up. Just do the real dope or nothing at all.

[BILL ANVIL]

Creatine is a waste bro. It will fuck your kidney's up.

I think your right man, I currently have bad kidney pains daily! I used a ton on the shit over the years too, especially when I was in my teens and mono and ester was popular. Dont wanna gear and speed up inherent baldness though god damn  im at a brutal crossroad right now. Need deca to heal my broken down body too, but wanna keep my hair!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I think your right man, I currently have bad kidney pains daily! I used a ton on the shit over the years too, especially when I was in my teens and mono and ester was popular. Dont wanna gear and speed up inherent baldness though god damn  im at a brutal crossroad right now. Need deca to heal my broken down body too, but wanna keep my hair!

The shit goes straight to the kidneys. The only people who say it doesn't are the guys who are hanging on to natural bodybuilding and they'll believe anything this is printed. The fucking shit is sand for the organs. Useless and down right will take years off your life. I'd rather do a gram of Test for a year then take a gram of creatine for a year(health wise)

[BILL ANVIL]

The shit goes straight to the kidneys. The only people who say it doesn't are the guys who are hanging on to natural bodybuilding and they'll believe anything this is printed. The fucking shit is sand for the organs. Useless and down right will take years off your life. I'd rather do a gram of Test for a year then take a gram of creatine for a year(health wise)

Damn now that makes me feel great      The best I can do is hold 7-8 lbs on the stuff anyways, then when I stop training most of its gone.

Some strong words bro, and well said at that. Thanks for the advice, and making me feel like shit lol.

[gh15]

Thats mostly 205-210 5'8" of upper body with so so legs and no calves with an extremely puny frame and puny joints, and NOT all drugs and NOT a bodybuilder. Just always lifted heavy went for strength and always liked training as a hobby and built a fair amount of real solid muscle over 12 years. I can maintain 197 with just running creatine and training 4X per week eating 3X a day, but thats it. I look 215-220 after a back or chest workout, but then look 197 without a pump. Thats whats brutal about training without drugs, I only feel great 4X a week after training instead of everyday if I was juiced  

nonoo friend,,5'8 210 is big in terms of bodybuild if conditioned,, really big fella,, the key point is condition,, you do realize that everything in bodybuild is condition right? size only counts if it is conditioned size,, bulk of fat water and muscle dont count for nothing,, it sonly the lean muscle that count,,when youi are 5'10 220 lb ...6-7% there is no ifs or buts ,,if you are on gh and aas and sculpted 6-7% there is no guessing,, you will know it and you and its not easy to maintain with out hormones,, its very hard to ,, the weight is easy to maintain but not the size! not the conditioned size! ,,a true 7% fella that enter the room  220 5'10 will get immidiate respond from his girl or the girl he is fuckin about how impressive he look it wont have to ask for it ,, it will be immidiate owe in the girl eyes and immidiate wetness in her pussy ,, and im not joking ,, she wil even admit it if you are her boyfriend,,especialllllly is you are hairless and tan or evrn fake tan like spray tan ,, if you are 6-7% and only hold water 220 5'10 sculpted the woman dont ask too many questions abotu why you are not shaved and why your beard is not trimmed and why you didnt brush teeth ....the woman just FUCK YOU ON THE SPOT ,,RAPE YOU and come for moe!

this is why fellas hormonize themselves to be 210 5'8 ....this is why most do it not for comeptition ,, bodybuild competition come with the teritory because when you are there you already into bodybuild so much that comeptition come with it  and some never compete they just want to look 5'10 220 6% ,, it is invinsible look it is a a very very big fella very very very big fella if its 6% not to forget....arnold was 6'1 230 on stage,,before fellas starteed abusing insulina and i say insulina because this is what take you to 220+ at 5'10 or under on stage ... before this happened  fellas were considered big at 185 5% 5'9 ,, 200 6% 5'8 ,,230 5% 6'1 ..,

its all in the condition ,, conditioned size is the most important thing in bodybuild and most important thing inorder for fellas to know you are bodybuild,, if its not conditioned you dont look like a bodybuild...you look like a fatzo that work out ,, or a fella that is always offseason lol ,,

there is nooo off season my friends    ,,none ...there is no off season from 6% to 4% we dont walk around 10% we always walk around sub 8 % friends,, even when you thin kwe are 12% we are not we hold water and its estrogen related water and thick skin from gh ....we are always close to the zone because if we dont stay in the zone ...we become TREY BROWER and quit it all !

gh15 approved

[Tyr]

Okay Brotha.. I guess we'd put that under the large investments,no?  LOL..

Ha ha  Don't believe bobs hype machine. He was the one who spent years denying nasser sells thongs until proof was posted. He'll lie left right and center to cover up Nassers faults/insecurities. I  guess nasser posts sarcastic pics on his own website of himself working in a hardware store    

Fact is Nasser is no longer rich. He invested in real estate just like every other bodybuilder did/does. His so called investments eventually deteriorated  so now he's stuck doing minimum wage jobs to pay bills - because that's all he's qualified to do.  He begged for accommodation and a plane ticket in order to attend the Arnold Classic winners Night and was turned down. The bloated one then threw a hissy fit and refused to attend.  No one else who was honored that night felt the need to ask for a similar handout.

 When Nassers real job situation was posted the "team" decided to over-exaggerate it to downplay the brutal truth about their god of soiled thongs.

Team nasser has its very own baghdad pakistani bob(er).

[BILL ANVIL]

nonoo friend,,5'8 210 is big in terms of bodybuild if conditioned,, really big fella,, the key point is condition,, you do realize that everything in bodybuild is condition right? size only counts if it is conditioned size,, bulk of fat water and muscle dont count for nothing,, it sonly the lean muscle that count,,when youi are 5'10 220 lb ...6-7% there is no ifs or buts ,,if you are on gh and aas and sculpted 6-7% there is no guessing,, you will know it and you and its not easy to maintain with out hormones,, its very hard to ,, the weight is easy to maintain but not the size! not the conditioned size! ,,a true 7% fella that enter the room  220 5'10 will get immidiate respond from his girl or the girl he is fuckin about how impressive he look it wont have to ask for it ,, it will be immidiate owe in the girl eyes and immidiate wetness in her pussy ,, and im not joking ,, she wil even admit it if you are her boyfriend,,especialllllly is you are hairless and tan or evrn fake tan like spray tan ,, if you are 6-7% and only hold water 220 5'10 sculpted the woman dont ask too many questions abotu why you are not shaved and why your beard is not trimmed and why you didnt brush teeth ....the woman just FUCK YOU ON THE SPOT ,,RAPE YOU and come for moe!

this is why fellas hormonize themselves to be 210 5'8 ....this is why most do it not for comeptition ,, bodybuild competition come with the teritory because when you are there you already into bodybuild so much that comeptition come with it  and some never compete they just want to look 5'10 220 6% ,, it is invinsible look it is a a very very big fella very very very big fella if its 6% not to forget....arnold was 6'1 230 on stage,,before fellas starteed abusing insulina and i say insulina because this is what take you to 220+ at 5'10 or under on stage ... before this happened  fellas were considered big at 185 5% 5'9 ,, 200 6% 5'8 ,,230 5% 6'1 ..,

its all in the condition ,, conditioned size is the most important thing in bodybuild and most important thing inorder for fellas to know you are bodybuild,, if its not conditioned you dont look like a bodybuild...you look like a fatzo that work out ,, or a fella that is always offseason lol ,,

there is nooo off season my friends    ,,none ...there is no off season from 6% to 4% we dont walk around 10% we always walk around sub 8 % friends,, even when you thin kwe are 12% we are not we hold water and its estrogen related water and thick skin from gh ....we are always close to the zone because if we dont stay in the zone ...we become TREY BROWER and quit it all !

gh15 approved

Totally gh, conditioned size is the only size. Mass with class. I meet regular juicers at the gym that are 5 8 200 with big waists thick lower bodies and so so upper bodies alot,  that really arent all that impressive to me and rely solely on drugs to keep it . You take a 5 8 guy with a 38" waist who weighed 175lbs before he ever touched a weight, then hormonizes to 200 theres really nothing special about that and thats what 90% of the gym rats are and is why they never look all that great or have any wow factor. Nobody seems to realize its all about quality over quantity, density over phony inflation. Only a few people seem to be able to tell the difference and thats a damn shame.!

[reppingfor20]

whitewidow you attack the God of Hormones, history is not on your side :|

[Coach is Back!]

History has shown gh15 is 50/50 at best.

[whitewidow]

Accuses natural bodybuilders of lying, calls American women whores. Yet who is he? Where are his pictures? He knows the names of three or four drugs, knows nothing about lifting weights. Deliberately mispells certain words in some posts and spells the same words correctly in others. I say he's a nobody and until he posts a valid pic he needs to go fuckhimself.

nasser el sonbaty or a gimmick such as special ed. one of the 2. could be nasser. If it is nasser he has really gone down hill

[gh15]

^^^ whitewidow showing his soft side...
i want that name still ,, bann him so i can have this name whitewidow15 ..sound chilling,, i like it

gh15 approved