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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2011, 11:11:05 PM »
"I USED TO BE YOUR SIZE WHEN I WAS YOUNG"
hahaha yes.

Why the fuck are they doing this?  :-\

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2011, 11:22:11 PM »
hahaha yes.

Why the fuck are they doing this?  :-\

Exactly, they need to keep that pain bottled deep inside and then cry into their pillow at night.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2011, 11:43:26 PM »
the old timers who 'used to' be great ( in there own mind ) are even worse, then when u actualy see an old pic, u shake your head in disbelief at the delusional clowns..........

I am a real "old timer" at the gym where I work out. I have been a member there since 1985. Moreover, I have been working out since 1961. There are a couple of us real old timers at the gym. Most of us spend more time actually working out then do the youngsters who train in groups of four or five, shooting the shit, talking on their cell phones and clowning around. So, don't even bother talking garbage about old timers at the gym. We rock! I stopped offering advice years ago...it's not worth the effort it takes. If someone asks me for advice, fine. I'll tell them what I have learned truth trial and error.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2011, 11:45:57 PM »
What's with all these guys in the gym who do nothing but talk about training but never actually train? It reminds me of all the experts on getbig who do nothing but talk about bodybuilding and drugs for hours on end and then you see a pic and they look like dog shit. Year after year the same guys in the gym and they always look the same. I can't believe the amount of grown men I still see doing cable crossover presses or olymic barbell curls in the power rack with under 95 lbs.

Well, couple of points which I want to explain to you: First of all, everybody hate to get advice because who knows anything better than man himself? To benefit anything from the advise, you would have to admit that you are not perfect, and that rules out that possibility. So you hate when some on gives you advice. And it makes no difference who they are, so if Kai Greene comes to you and try to share his knowledge with you, you think the picture where he is humping that grape fruit and do not listen. Why it is like this? Because you need to be smart enough to see your own flaws, and only few of us is smart enough. I am an old geezer looking like shit, and I use cable crossovers and barbell curls in my training. I use them because I benefit to them, because I do it right. For example, I do cable crossovers at the end of my chest training to get as much blood in my pecks as I could. It is working fine, because I use moderate weight and correct range of motion. When I look young guys doing it, they use as much load than they can move, pressing it with all they got, but this isn't the point of this exercise. If you want to do presses, do dips or bench presses, not cable crossovers. What comes to barbell curls, it is last exercise when I am training my biceps, and because I have done plenty of sets before that, I use moderate weight to do it right. Point of this is to get your bicep do to work without any help of gravity or your other muscles. I don't take running start to my biceps curls like I see young guys do, I don't twist forward and backward while doing curls, I stand straight and let the muscle do the lifting. It is easy to lift your own weight by barbell curls if you don't mind how to do it, but how many of you guys do it while your back is resting against a column, so you can't use momentum of your body to help?  There has been contest on our gym where they do just that, and it is amazing how little you can lift that way. So while you are laughing at that old guy behind your hairy palm, he is thinking how odd it is when young guys try to exercise without any knowledge how to do it.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2011, 12:50:16 AM »
I am a real "old timer" at the gym where I work out. I have been a member there since 1985. Moreover, I have been working out since 1961. There are a couple of us real old timers at the gym. Most of us spend more time actually working out then do the youngsters who train in groups of four or five, shooting the shit, talking on their cell phones and clowning around. So, don't even bother talking garbage about old timers at the gym. We rock! I stopped offering advice years ago...it's not worth the effort it takes. If someone asks me for advice, fine. I'll tell them what I have learned truth trial and error.

Many old timers put far too much value on how many years they have trained.  I see them training with terrible form and zero intensity doing completely random exercises. They dispense unsolicited advice making it painfully obvious that they have no idea what they are doing and believe that simply being in the gym for all these years equals knowledge and experience. Some people figure out in a short time what others fail to in a lifetime.

If you train hard and intelligently, keep to your advice to yourself unless asked then you don't fit into this category.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2011, 04:29:06 AM »
What gets me is the obsession with isolation exercises and machines. I see it from small and large out of shape people.

I just want to pull them aside and say bench, squat, deadlift and row before you do all of this other nonsense.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 04:45:35 AM »
what realy realy gets to me is the small guys in the gym(not that im much bigger)  who  stack the bar with load of plates doing squats.they go down about 5 inches and come up shouting thats how its done..................wi th all buddies patting them on the back.


sick of telling these guys to take off the weight leave  ego at the door  and fucking squat properly....never listen..............and they will still have same legs this time 2 years or else knees destroyed ::)

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2011, 02:57:21 PM »
what realy realy gets to me is the small guys in the gym(not that im much bigger)  who  stack the bar with load of plates doing squats.they go down about 5 inches and come up shouting thats how its done..................wi th all buddies patting them on the back.
sick of telling these guys to take off the weight leave  ego at the door  and fucking squat properly....never listen..............and they will still have same legs this time 2 years or else knees destroyed ::)

Don't forget that they all probably work at the same store and talk junk about how much weight "Josh" squatted.  Oh, brother...
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2011, 03:00:50 PM »
exactly.. i mean if you train a few years you can see from older guys if they know how to train, use correct form and dont need attention.

another annoying example is when you just feel them stare at you for "near future advising purposes" only you dont look back, ignoring them and not giving them the eyecontact they wait for as a chance to step in and "advise".... instead they go to someone else...point at you and laugh or shake their head while you are twice the size of them..twice as ripped as them..have no skippyball belly like them and just train and mind your own business..

its probably that they train their a long time and like to be considered the gym oracle or something..

Also they sometimes gve comments on people that they supposedly use the wrong shoes or belts or straps or wraps which will cause serious eternal damage if they dont immediately do as they advise

Most annoying thing is when you r in a set and they suddenly appear behind you to spot for no appearant reason and yell "common" ...you can do it" :s
C'mon admit it, you were in the gym shower with him when he was behind you, yelling c'mon!
It sounds to me that you are just pissed he came too fast and you didn't get enough cock ramming.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2011, 11:14:37 PM »
Many old timers put far too much value on how many years they have trained.  I see them training with terrible form and zero intensity doing completely random exercises. They dispense unsolicited advice making it painfully obvious that they have no idea what they are doing and believe that simply being in the gym for all these years equals knowledge and experience. Some people figure out in a short time what others fail to in a lifetime.

If you train hard and intelligently, keep to your advice to yourself unless asked then you don't fit into this category.

Right. I don't fit in this catagory, like you said.

Beware that some "old timers" may not really have that much gym experience. Unless you've seen them training at the gym all those years, they just be acting like they have experience when they really do not. The only time I offer advice is when I am asked for it. Just being older than someone does not make a person smarter.

When I first started working out, the general rule of thumb was every exercise you did, you did three sets of ten reps....period. While any exercise routine is better than no exercise routine, we know today that there are more ways than one to grow muscle and that different muscle groups react differently to various exercise routines. Not only that, what works for me may not do squat (pun intended) for you.

If a dude is spending his time at the gym dispensing unwanted advice, he isn't working out. Right there, that should tell you something about this person.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2011, 12:03:55 AM »
Right. I don't fit in this catagory, like you said.

Beware that some "old timers" may not really have that much gym experience. Unless you've seen them training at the gym all those years, they just be acting like they have experience when they really do not. The only time I offer advice is when I am asked for it. Just being older than someone does not make a person smarter.

When I first started working out, the general rule of thumb was every exercise you did, you did three sets of ten reps....period. While any exercise routine is better than no exercise routine, we know today that there are more ways than one to grow muscle and that different muscle groups react differently to various exercise routines. Not only that, what works for me may not do squat (pun intended) for you.

If a dude is spending his time at the gym dispensing unwanted advice, he isn't working out. Right there, that should tell you something about this person.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter how long you have been training if you have no clue what you are doing. Simply clocking hours doesn't necessarily mean you become an expert. Many old timers think you should respect their knowledge simply because they have been at it longer. I started training on and off 20 years ago and then got more serious about it and haven't missed more than 4-5 workouts in 15 years.  That doesn't automatically make me more knowledgable than someone only training for 5.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2011, 12:06:27 AM »
hahaha yes.

Why the fuck are they doing this?  :-\
yes but euro monster is right, usually they tell you they were bigger than you ;D

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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2011, 12:18:50 AM »
What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter how long you have been training if you have no clue what you are doing. Simply clocking hours doesn't necessarily mean you become an expert. Many old timers think you should respect their knowledge simply because they have been at it longer. I started training on and off 20 years ago and then got more serious about it and haven't missed more than 4-5 workouts in 15 years.  That doesn't automatically make me more knowledgable than someone only training for 5.

Absolutely! As is often evidenced in the forums here, there are many folks who are so closed-minded that they cannot learn anything new because they aren't open to that. Likewise, there are folks who have worked out for years and never tried anything different. They are stuck and they will stay stuck forever. No matter that their workout routine sucks and they haven't experienced any growth or change in the last several decades....they will stick by it, by God! They believe what they do is the only way and the best way. People like this, regardless of their age are a bore. It is best just to ignore folks like this because you'll never change them.

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Re: More gym nonsense.
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2011, 12:21:20 AM »
youll be surprised about the stupidity of people who already train for 20 years!!

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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2011, 12:53:06 AM »
C'mon admit it, you were in the gym shower with him when he was behind you, yelling c'mon!
It sounds to me that you are just pissed he came too fast and you didn't get enough cock ramming.

hehe bastard ;)..
no man.. i never showered at gym... no point.. as sweating continues.. train , drive home, shower take pwo meal, sleep..
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