Just found out 10min ago my new gig....

[tbombz]

If a fighter is 8-10-12 weeks out you cannot do that.

if they go a couple months without getting their ass beat they are  primed to get knock the fuck out come game time

[oderus]

And this falls on me how?

there ya go , being honest isant so hard now is it ?

[WillGrant]

Dana White is coming down HARD on fighters who get caught using gear. I can make an athlete just as explosive without it. It's a matter of knowing how to train.

Thats not answering the question though bro - its just like when someone says to you what are you on there when they see a pic of you and you say "nothing im clean" but hold the phone batman - everything presented in the pic was built on hormones its just your protocol is to drop everything 2 weeks before a show so you say clean in the pic but not natural when its all built with drugs  

so.....

So you are saying they use nothing to enhance agression or explosive power ?

[Coach is Back!]

yes im sure if you gave your clients EPO it would ravage there conditioning  

Stick to being a gimmick, you're better at that.

[oderus]

Stick to being a gimmick, you're better at that.

wow i make a good point and you play the " your a gimmick card " when you know exactly who iam , way to go twister 

[Coach is Back!]

Thats not answering the question though bro - its just like when someone says to you what are you on there when they see a pic of you and you say "nothing im clean" but hold the phone batman - everything presented in the pic was built on hormones its just your protocol is to drop everything 2 weeks before a show so you say clean in the pic but not natural when its all built with drugs  

so.....

Go back and look at the pics of Kongo before I started with him.

[Coach is Back!]

wow i make a good point and you play the " your a gimmick card " when you know exactly who iam , way to go twister 

Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.

[WillGrant]

Go back and look at the pics of Kongo before I started with him.

Drugs are not just about what they look like say like BB's as an example - they are used for performance to - just look at Cycling  - the drugs your guys use are not used like how BBs use them (looks and size) but more for power aggression and endurence - its not about looks here  

[oderus]

Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.

your so full of shit its not even funny twister , keep up with the diversionary tactics your good at it

[WillGrant]

Cheque Drops pre fight as an example ? Are you saying this is never used - do your fighters ever use it ? yes or no ?

[Coach is Back!]

Drugs are not just about what they look like say like BB's as an example - they are used for performance to - just look at Cycling  - the drugs your guys use are not used like how BBs use them (looks and size) but more for power aggression and endurence - its not about looks here  

Ok, I get that and understand that. NOW, you have to realize that MMA is just now coming around to seeing what TRUE S&C can do for them, you have to trust me when I say there isn't too many people in this sport who know the difference (not even their coaches) of what drug kills conditioning or not. I have to absolutely TWIST  Rampages and Kongos arms to see the light of S&C. Kongo loves 24hr fitness for the fucking machines.

[Coach is Back!]

Cheque Drops pre fight as an example ? Are you saying this is never used - do your fighters ever use it ? yes or no ?

Whats that? Seriously.

[Coach is Back!]

your so full of shit its not even funny twister , keep up with the diversionary tactics your good at it

STFU gimmick before I have you tossed.......again.

[Pressin_Weight]

epo for a fighter sounds like a recipe for a heart attack. basically turns the blood to sludge.

[oderus]

STFU gimmick before I have you tossed.......again.

eat a bag of dicks asshole

[WillGrant]

Ok, I get that and understand that. NOW, you have to realize that MMA is just now coming around to seeing what TRUE S&C can do for them, you have to trust me when I say there isn't too many people in this sport who know the difference (not even their coaches) of what drug kills conditioning or not. I have to absolutely TWIST  Rampages and Kongos arms to see the light of S&C. Kongo loves 24hr fitness for the fucking machines.

Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.

[oderus]

Because I don't answer ignorant questions. Ex; why in the fuck would I give a fighter EPO for a 15min fight? Fuck, I couldn't get them ready for 15--25 mins I might as well give up. Keep asking questions gimmick.

wow if only alistar overeem had found the coach he would have never had to use peds what a fool this overeem guy is 

[oderus]

Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.

oh brother will grant do you realize who your talking to to here , this is joe marino were talking about his training methods are powerful than any steroid , how dare you question him

[Coach is Back!]

Im not doubting your training methods for one bit here but Im also a realist in the fact at this level drugs of some form are used to be competitive - without the training drugs mean shit of course but athletes always look for an edge and drugs give this - these guys give there all in there training for the sole purpose of being the best - drugs are rampant in every sport even the ones we would least expect because at this level you do anything to win - this is always going to be the case - Now I understand this is a publi forum and you being these guys coach you need to be careful what is said - but i highly doubt its just your training thats driving these guys on fight day when the opposition will always be looking for that extra edge - its human nature and here to stay.

Yep, you're preaching to the choir here. Honestly, if they do take something, I don't want to know because I don't want my name attached. If my name gets mentioned (or any S&C coach for that matter) with an athlete getting caught with PED's and it gets out, then I run the risk of getting questioned by reps by every athlete I train in that organization (NCAA, MLB, NFL, etc). I don't need that.

[WillGrant]

Whats that? Seriously.

Taken pre fight to enhance aggression - rampant in boxing circles - can turn most mental with pure rage  

http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm

[Coach is Back!]

oh brother will grant do you realize who your talking to to here , this is joe marino were talking about his training methods are powerful than any steroid , how dare you question him

Keep going gimmick.

[Coach is Back!]

Taken pre fight to enhance aggression - rampant in boxing circles - can turn most mental with pure rage  

http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids29.htm

Damn, honest to God I've never heard of it.

[oderus]

Keep going gimmick.

i will , get used to it twister

[Coach is Back!]

i will , get used to it twister

Well, why not. You've already sent me a pm with your other gimmick. You need to get away from men and hook up with a chick. It might change your prospective on life. But then again............

[Kwon_2]

Joe Marinos trainingmethods are more powerful than any steroid, keep doing what you're doing Coach.