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New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« on: July 15, 2011, 08:41:35 AM »
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/07/15/MNL61KAHVQ.DTL

Sacramento --

Public schools in California will be required to teach students about the contributions of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans starting Jan. 1 after Gov. Jerry Brown on Thursday signed a controversial bill to add the topic to the social sciences curriculum.

Textbooks now must include information on the role of LGBT Americans, as well as Americans with disabilities, though California's budget crisis has delayed the purchasing of new books until at least 2015.

"History should be honest," Brown, a Democrat, said in a statement. "This bill revises existing laws that prohibit discrimination in education and ensures that the important contributions of Americans from all backgrounds and walks of life are included in our history books."

The governor called the legislation, SB48, introduced by Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, "historic."

The law - the first of its kind in the nation - adds the two groups to an existing list of minority and other groups that are required to be part of the social sciences curriculum.
Safer schools

Gay rights supporters heralded Brown's action as a major victory. They said the law will help make public schools a safer place for LGBT students as well as give those students, and their classmates, examples of accomplished and important LGBT people.

Throughout the debate on the measure, backers noted the recent spate of suicides among young LGBT people and said it would help to combat bullying that typically occurs beforehand.

Opponents, however, fiercely opposed the measure, citing religious objections to homosexuality and questioning whether such instruction is necessary. They expressed dismay with Brown's signing of the bill.

"If children in other countries are learning math and science, and American children are learning about the private lives of historical figures, how will our students compete for jobs in the global economy?" said Sen. Sharon Runner, R-Lancaster (Los Angeles County), the vice chairwoman of the Senate Committee on Education.
Beyond California

The provision on inclusion in textbooks could reach beyond California, too, as many book publishers tailor their texts to California's standards because of the state's large population. The bill does not prescribe how schools will teach the subject, and Leno said that decision will be made by local school officials and teachers.

"What the bill calls for is for the contributions of LGBT people to be included," Leno said, adding, "We wrote it broadly for a reason. We would be subject to more criticism than we've already been getting if we were more dictatorial."

Leno said the mandates apply broadly, though, telling reporters it would affect kindergarten through high school curriculum, "and, of course, in an age-appropriate way."

Gay rights advocates said they will be vigilant about making sure schools across California comply.

Carolyn Laub, the founder and executive director of the Gay-Straight Alliance Network, which works to establish gay-straight clubs in schools, said such clubs exist in 55 percent of California's high schools.

"We'll certainly be letting all of our constituents know about this bill, and when it goes into effect I can assure you there will be thousands of students" watching to see how it is implemented, she said.

Proponents have cited slain San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk as a person with historical significance, along with events such as the Stonewall Riots in New York City that helped launch the LGBT rights movement as examples of topics that could be taught.

Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson, a Democrat, praised Brown's move, saying, "Our history is more complete when we recognize the contributions of people from all backgrounds and walks of life."
Cutting into class time

Still, opponents questioned the effect the bill would have and the need for explicit instruction for all students about a relatively small group.

The bill "does absolutely nothing to reduce bullying, improve the poor state of our education system, ensure students graduate or prepare them for global competitiveness," said Paulo Sibaja, legislative director of the Capitol Resource Institute, a socially conservative organization in Sacramento. "Instead it diverts precious classroom time away from science, math, reading and writing, and focuses on the agenda of a small group of people."

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2011, 08:48:16 AM »
That's gay  ;D
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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 08:50:41 AM »
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"If children in other countries are learning math and science, and American children are learning about the private lives of historical figures, how will our students compete for jobs in the global economy?" said Sen. Sharon Runner, R-Lancaster (Los Angeles County), the vice chairwoman of the Senate Committee on Education.
Beyond California

Now this is pretty fucking stupid.  Even by a Republican's standard of stupidity.

Fear mongering never works huh?

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 08:54:30 AM »
Any thing they teach in school that in anyway resembles American history is a coincidence.
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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2011, 08:55:33 AM »
Any thing they teach in school that in anyway resembles American history is a coincidence.

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 09:04:46 AM »
No wonder most people from that idiot state are so fucked up and the state is in collapse.   

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2011, 09:05:58 AM »
No wonder most people from that idiot state are so fucked up and the state is in collapse.   

agreed.  teaching gay contributions at some future date is most certainly the cause of the financial problems of california for the last 12 years.

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2011, 09:08:07 AM »
agreed.  teaching gay contributions at some future date is most certainly the cause of the financial problems of california for the last 12 years.

Yes.  it shows the priorities past, present, and future of the fools running California.   

Its the land of the morons, Pelosi, Waxman, Boxer, dellums, Feinstein, Sanchez, etc, you know, all the people you so admire?     

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2011, 09:14:59 AM »
agreed.  teaching gay contributions at some future date is most certainly the cause of the financial problems of california for the last 12 years.

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 09:26:02 AM »
What exactly is the point of this? What does sexual orientation have to do with historical accomplishments? He charged up San Juan hill with TR because he was gay? Pure nonsense, and is going to cost the tax payer an assload of money to print new text books.......
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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2011, 09:28:50 AM »
What exactly is the point of this? What does sexual orientation have to do with historical accomplishments? He charged up San Juan hill with TR because he was gay? Pure nonsense, and is going to cost the tax pay an assload of money to print new text books.......

and the morons wonder why states and the govt are collapsing.   ::)  ::)

Its the far left agenda that is collapsing the nation morally, financially, militarily, etc and these pieces of trash supporting this will not be happy until the entire nation looks like Detroit.   

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2011, 09:44:07 AM »
What exactly is the point of this? What does sexual orientation have to do with historical accomplishments? He charged up San Juan hill with TR because he was gay? Pure nonsense, and is going to cost the tax payer an assload of money to print new text books.......

I don't know that they will print and replace all text books.  Maybe new ones will have to include sexual orientation.  I don't know why that really matters as far history goes though.

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2011, 09:55:41 AM »
I don't know that they will print and replace all text books.  Maybe new ones will have to include sexual orientation.  I don't know why that really matters as far history goes though.

It doesnt, and has only to do with pushing a freak show agenda supported by 3% of the population are have an inordinant amount of control of the commie party in control of cali, NY, IL, etc.  . 

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 10:06:24 AM »
It doesn't bother me. Lots of bigger fish to fry.

I think however, the more awareness of homosexuality via education is good thing.  But like I said, I dont know that putting a historical figures sexual orientation in a history book is really needed. 

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2011, 10:10:11 AM »
It doesn't bother me. Lots of bigger fish to fry.

I think however, the more awareness of homosexuality via education is good thing.  But like I said, I dont know that putting a historical figures sexual orientation in a history book is really needed. 


OF COURSE IT DOESNT BOTHER YOU BRO!   You support this bullshit and still are in abject denial as to why California is off the cliff.    Rather than focusing on basics, no, lets focus on fags, diversity, social justice, blah blah blah.   

And you wonder why kids are dumber than ever and businesses and sane taxpayers are fleeing Cali in droves? 

Funny too - the common lib talking point is "oh if we only raised property taxes everything would be fine in california"


LMFAO.  I always love that bogus excuse from the left.         

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2011, 10:16:38 AM »
You think this is a focus why?   ::)

Because it was a media story?

You are trying to tie in several other issues into this subject.  Fucking stupid.  Typical.

Deny deflect.   That's all you are these days.  No integrity. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2011, 10:21:57 AM »
You think this is a focus why?   ::)

Because it was a media story?

You are trying to tie in several other issues into this subject.  Fucking stupid.  Typical.

Deny deflect.   That's all you are these days.  No integrity. 

Its all tied in. 

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2011, 10:28:53 AM »
the fact that they have been discriminated against and have been involved in civil rights legislation makes them a part of history that the people of California have decided their kids should learn about

who could possibly have a problem wanting their kids to learn about recent history

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2011, 10:30:12 AM »
the fact that they have been discriminated against and have been involved in civil rights legislation makes them a part of history that the people of California have decided their kids should learn about

who could possibly have a problem wanting their kids to learn about recent history


At the expense of not learning what? 

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2011, 10:32:27 AM »

  You support this bullshit and still are in abject denial as to why California is off the cliff.    Rather than focusing on basics, no, lets focus on fags, diversity, social justice, blah blah blah.   

       


another example of 33333 putting his foot in his mouth

Can you prove that's what the state assembly and governor have been focusing on since Jerry Brown took office?

No you can't, you just assume such because you are a tool. 


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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2011, 10:34:37 AM »


another example of 33333 putting his foot in his mouth

Can you prove that's what the state assembly and governor have been focusing on since Jerry Brown took office?

No you can't, you just assume such because you are a tool. 



I'm talking about education focus   

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2011, 10:35:36 AM »
I'm talking about education focus   

Prove it.

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2011, 10:35:50 AM »

At the expense of not learning what? 

who said it's at the expense of learning something else

why do you posit such either or nonsense ?

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Re: New state law requires LGBT history in textbooks
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2011, 10:50:13 AM »
who said it's at the expense of learning something else

why do you posit such either or nonsense ?

Very simple - unless you are going to extend the class year or school day, something has to come out of the course curriculum in order to put this in there. 

The overpaid underworked teachers wont go for more hours or days, so something needs to come out of the lesson plan in order to include this correct?   

So what comes out?